Cypher Labs AlgoRhythm Solo - Discussion and Impressions Thread

Oct 12, 2011 at 12:19 PM Post #631 of 1,793
Welcome back, googleli!

I would appreciate if you could make a comparison with the CLAS -> SR71B -> LCD2 balanced, and then with the DB2 added with a balanced connector, and make sure it's connected via coax RCA from the CLAS.

Thanks

 
Oct 12, 2011 at 1:57 PM Post #633 of 1,793


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Wow, I didn't think about this. Are they also easy to remove without scratching? Thanks for your help matey =
 

 
It holds on very tightly and solid. Therefore, yes and no, its hard to remove equipment from equipment, but the blutack itself is easy to remove... No scratches whatsoever :) 
 
Oct 13, 2011 at 1:58 AM Post #634 of 1,793

 
Showdown between CLAS Stepdance 15V (single ended) and CLAS SR71B (balanced out) has taken place. I still haven't received the cables from Moon Audio so I am using the single ended input for the SR71B.
 

 
Once connected and volume matched I was able to conduct tests just by unplugging and plugging the LCD2 into the two different LCD2 cables. Very easy, takes about 5 seconds now that I am used to it.
 
1. I immediately notice that Stepdance is much more forward than the SR71B. For vocal, the sound is like right between your heads, whereas for the SR71B, the vocal is at a slight distance. It depends on whether you like the more forward presentation of the Stepdance. However the Stepdance has better treble IMO. For trumpets it is a bit too much to me (see below), but for vocal I find that the Stepdance has more spark in the treble area. It may be tiring if you listen to a lot of soprano dominated operas though...
 
2. Played "High Life" in Jazz in the Pawn Shop - A/Bed five times in between. It is a great track since it has treble instrments as well as a very long drums solo.  Sound stage of the SR71B is better, but the speed of the Stepdance is better - in very fast drum parts I can hear each hit and the background piano very clearly with the Stepdance, but can't hear as clear with the SR71B balanced out.
 
3. The bass of the SR71B is clearly better. Better impact and quantity. This is not saying the Stepdance's bass is no good - it is very clean and tight as well but just lacks that atmosphere that the SR71B's bass can bring about in the Jazz track. But as said above the Stepdance has more clarity when the drums go really fast.
 
4. Trumpets can sound harsh on the Stepdance given its supposedly more analytical power. The SR71B while less analytical presents a more natural feeling for Jazz.  
 
5. Since I am using different makes of cable for balanced and single ended, I conducted one more test to compare between using the single ended cable (Norse 8 conductor) straight to the Stepdance, and using the same cable with the single ended to balanced convertor for SR71B, so as to ensure that the difference is not because of cable effects. This is confirmed - my opinion remains the same as above, but using the convertor gave a slightly shrinked soundstage on the SR71B but still better than the Stepdance (only in terms of soundstage).
 
Overall, vocal is a tie for me, perhaps with a slight edge for the SR71B - but that's just me because you may like the vocal to be more forward. I definitely prefer the SR71B for small band Jazz, like Jazz at the Pawnshop or David quartet - it wins over the Stepdance in terms of both soundstage and sound balance - listening to Jazz at the Pawnshop on the SR71B, I have more feeling of "being there" and had looked around a few times mistaking chatters and noises in the tracks for real life sound. Stepdance did not give me that.

 
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Hi!
 
Can you please compare this:
 
CLAS -> STEPDANCE 15V -> LCD2 (single ended)
 
CLAS -> SR71B -> LCD2 (balanced) (you can add DB2 if you have the cable already)
 
Thanks!
 
 



 
 
Oct 13, 2011 at 1:59 AM Post #635 of 1,793
The balanced input related tests can only be done after I have received the balanced cable (DB2 to SR71B) and short coaxial cable from Moon Audio. It is taking a bit longer than expected but I will let you know.
 
Oct 13, 2011 at 2:03 AM Post #636 of 1,793
your making my decision harder googlie!

When one thinks of the Stepdances price even accounting for the 15V modification the Stepdance really is quite an incredible machine. Jan really did a great job on it.

Thank you so much for this comparison, it has given me much food for thought.
I have some custom high end Silver cables coming soon,Classic-CLAS and amp to CLAS. it will be interesting to see what they add to the mix. I have a feeling it may tighten up the bottom end a tad.
 
Oct 13, 2011 at 2:43 AM Post #637 of 1,793


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The balanced input related tests can only be done after I have received the balanced cable (DB2 to SR71B) and short coaxial cable from Moon Audio. It is taking a bit longer than expected but I will let you know.


Thanks, looking forward to your findings. 
 
 
 
Oct 13, 2011 at 10:19 AM Post #638 of 1,793
Thanks for the review googlie!
 
Your very good review made things harder, hahaha :)
 
 
 
 
 
Oct 14, 2011 at 6:23 PM Post #640 of 1,793
I won't be doing that but I have a set of high end silver cables coming from the UK custom made for my rig and am looking forward to hearing what my set up sounds like with high quality cables, Got a LOD-USB and 3.5-3.5MM coming
 
Oct 14, 2011 at 7:15 PM Post #642 of 1,793


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Short cables don't change much.


I'm assuming you have personal experience of this? As with everything else you seem qualified to comment on....
 
This is a discussions and impressions thread for the CLAS and I'm not sure you even have one to discuss or give impressions of. Seems to me you live your life re-quoting what others have said/written with very little hands on experience of your own.
 
If I'm wrong I will happily read your impresions of both the CLAS and your vast experience with high end silver USB LOD's and such..... Oh and the fact that they were all evaluated by those very well regarded, revealing and ultra neutral ''Monitors'' the XB500
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Oct 14, 2011 at 9:50 PM Post #643 of 1,793
I will compare iPhone 4 line out to SR71B and CLAS to SR71B next week. Depending on how fast the eBay seller ships, I may be able to do the comparison with iPhone 4s instead.
 
Oct 15, 2011 at 5:06 AM Post #644 of 1,793
I'm assuming you have personal experience of this? As with everything else you seem qualified to comment on....
 
This is a discussions and impressions thread for the CLAS and I'm not sure you even have one to discuss or give impressions of. Seems to me you live your life re-quoting what others have said/written with very little hands on experience of your own.
 
If I'm wrong I will happily read your impresions of both the CLAS and your vast experience with high end silver USB LOD's and such..... Oh and the fact that they were all evaluated by those very well regarded, revealing and ultra neutral ''Monitors'' the XB500
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Since I do believe I have a right to defend against libel, and you've asked not to PM you:

Yes, I do have personal experience with the subject of cables, though I admit not as much as you. I do have the CLAS, and have owned it since it came out. I have owned cans before selling them to fund the JH3A. I've also auditioned the LCD2 for quite a bit of time, not just a brief listen. Do you have anything else to say besides ungrounded assumptions and vilifications aimed for public humiliation?

I find posts like yours, quoted above, more detrimental, to the community, and useless than "re-quoting what others have said/written."


I will compare iPhone 4 line out to SR71B and CLAS to SR71B next week. Depending on how fast the eBay seller ships, I may be able to do the comparison with iPhone 4s instead.


I would appreciate if you do a brief comparison using the ES5 as well! Looking forward to this comparison the most, at the moment, since I'm very close to putting in my order for the ES5.
 

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