[hedphonz]

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Those are the Voskhod rockets, if you look closely in the right light you can see the rockets on them, label looks very faded and worn on the left one though, all voskhod rockets that i've had also carry the cccp logo.
 
If these are NOS they're going to need plenty of burn-in before they sound great, also they are slightly different construction, one being long silver shield and other short silver shield, shouldn't make a lot of difference but maybe a subtle one.
 
Give them 24 hours of pink noise and have another listen 

i think i need to get myself a top quality magnifying glass for reading markings - there not NOS - guy bought a mixed bunch from russia and these were among them - will give them more time listening time though
 
I trust you got my PM regarding the 2 pairs of rockets i bought from you ? 

 

[NightFlight]

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That clear sound is pretty much the classic Telefunken sound. To me it's almost an ideal in that you have very low distortion but still keep the dynamics of tubes.

This pair that I have from Upscale approaches my favorite (and indisputably genuine) set of Telefunkens in terms of sound. IMHO these are used tubes, and I do see that Upscale does not allude to them being new, much to their credit. Those that are selling these as new or immaculate are certainly not helping their credibility.

I gather I am done with buying any more Telefunken for the Lyr as it is going to be very difficult to find the genuine item from now on. I don't know where I will go next, I still really enjoy the Matsu 6922 and I have thought about Mullard CV2493 or even the CV4109.

 
Bigger sound stage and bottom end + prat on the CV2493. Top end seems a bit light without sacrifice of accuracy on the stage - which I previously assumed impossible. You can crank them out more without any hint of fatigue. They do take adjustment to 'get' them, but if you listen for a week, its like taking off your rosy shades. The world just seems dim.

 

[rb2013]

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my pair of voskhods arrived - bought cheap and locally
 
first time i seen  a pair - was expecting the rocket logo but they have the CCCP logo 
 
ones a 78 the others a 85  - i thought a matched pair meant same variant as well as test results !
 
bought a load of rubbish ?  sound is unremarkable
 

So far I have received feedback from 3 of the 5 folks I sold the 1980 Voskhods to.  The feedback has been universally positive - most say they are their second favorite after the OGs.
No negative comments - none returned for a refund.
 
I absolutely love these '75s.   What a natural tone, great dynamics and sound stage, liquid flowing mid-range.  And stone cold quiet, I hate noisy tubes - it masks the subtle low level detail that holds those ambient sound field clues.  My '58 BB D getters have a bit of noise.

 

[ilikepooters]

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are you suggesting that all NOS tubes need burn in ? what's a general hours after they really start to sing amount

 
In my experience, the NOS tubes i've had have generally started to show a marked improvement from anything between 12-24 hours, changes after this have been more subtle.
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i think i need to get myself a top quality magnifying glass for reading markings - there not NOS - guy bought a mixed bunch from russia and these were among them - will give them more time listening time though
 
I trust you got my PM regarding the 2 pairs of rockets i bought from you ? 

 
Yes got the message! 

 I'm having a good listen right now to what i've got left to find some nice tubes for you.

 

[Zuckfun]

Speaking of Orange Globes, mercedesman has a few back in stock, if anyone missed out and is looking for a pair. 67 o-getters

 

[jmsaxon69]

Just curious, if a goods number of you guys are into tubes this much, why not own a Valhalla and have even more fun? (This has nothing to do with the fact that I am selling mine, I swear!)

 

[ilikepooters]

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Just curious, if a goods number of you guys are into tubes this much, why not own a Valhalla and have even more fun? (This has nothing to do with the fact that I am selling mine, I swear!)

 
I don't think it quite has the power for the planar magnetic beasts does it? Also it's OTL, so suited for high impedence?

 

[mhamel]

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Just curious, if a goods number of you guys are into tubes this much, why not own a Valhalla and have even more fun? (This has nothing to do with the fact that I am selling mine, I swear!)

 
In many cases, especially with orthos, the Lyr is a much better match for the cans than Valhalla.   In my own case, it's not only that, but the fact that the Lyr had a preamp output, plus I already had some 6DJ8-family tubes around even before I started rolling in the Lyr.
 
  -Mike

 

[jmsaxon69]

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I don't think it quite has the power for the planar magnetic beasts does it? Also it's OTL, so suited for high impedence?

Yes, actually why I am getting ride of mine, I have HE-400 inbound and my other main cans are the AKG in my sig line and they don't sound "great" with the Valhalla. 

 

[jmsaxon69]

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In many cases, especially with orthos, the Lyr is a much better match for the cans than Valhalla.   In my own case, it's not only that, but the fact that the Lyr had a preamp output, plus I already had some 6DJ8-family tubes around even before I started rolling in the Lyr.
 
  -Mike

So that is a pre out on the Lyr? They make a deal out of it on the Asgard 2, but no real mention of it on the Lyr page, thought it could/might be a tape out type situation. I am leaning Lyr, why I've been watching this thread.  I'd like to be ready for whatever headphone I want to buy...

 

[mhamel]

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So that is a pre out on the Lyr? They make a deal out of it on the Asgard 2, but no real mention of it on the Lyr page, thought it could/might be a tape out type situation. I am leaning Lyr, why I've been watching this thread.  I'd like to be ready for whatever headphone I want to buy...

 
Yep, definitely a pre-out, I drive a pair of M-Audio CX-5 powered monitors at the moment with mine.

 

[NightFlight]

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So that is a pre out on the Lyr? They make a deal out of it on the Asgard 2, but no real mention of it on the Lyr page, thought it could/might be a tape out type situation. I am leaning Lyr, why I've been watching this thread.  I'd like to be ready for whatever headphone I want to buy...

 
Watch out for a possible roaring tube habit.  I must have around $1K in tubes. Stupid Lyr.

 
I think I'm all done for a while, unless some super rare items come my way for cheap.

 

[Overwerk]

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Watch out for a possible roaring tube habit.  I must have around $1K in tubes. Stupid Lyr.

 
I think I'm all done for a while, unless some super rare items come my way for cheap.

yeah me too, i am still considering rtc e188cc shipped for 90 a pair, but I cant bear the oversea shipping wait and it's not like it's so much cheaper--the seller only allowed zero discount and waiver shipping

 

[NightFlight]

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Yep, definitely a pre-out, I drive a pair of M-Audio CX-5 powered monitors at the moment with mine.

 
Doh! I completely forgot about the pre out... I've been switching my Foobar output selection for the last couple days to go to my little cheapie AV30s. I really have to redo the cabinets on them, their not the best.
 
But... I'm all curious now to see how they sound via the Bifrost and Lyr pre outs.  That sounds like some totally free fun for the weekend.

 

[jmsaxon69]

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Watch out for a possible roaring tube habit.  I must have around $1K in tubes. Stupid Lyr.

 
I think I'm all done for a while, unless some super rare items come my way for cheap.

Fortunately when I find something that sounds good to me I will have the restraint to stop! I know what I like and I realize chasing the last couple percent of "perfect sound"  can be a costly and frustrating affair.  Like when I stuck those Reflektor 6N23P in my X-Can v2, sounded better than stock and nothing sounded bad, so DONE!