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post #6676 of 8735
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Originally Posted by gerald410 View Post

My 2 other dealings with him have been great in his defense, I guess I wanted to be blown away by them and I wasn't:(

Believe me, I have felt your pain...

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with the orange globes...I could use another backup set myself (I like to keep three sets of the same tubes...but I need another set of Lorenz 3-micas frown.gif ).

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends

post #6677 of 8735
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Originally Posted by HK_sends View Post

Believe me, I have felt your pain...

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with the orange globes...I could use another backup set myself (I like to keep three sets of the same tubes...but I need another set of Lorenz 3-micas frown.gif ).

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends

I really appreciate your thoughts on the matter thanks:)

post #6678 of 8735
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Originally Posted by HK_sends View Post

None of us are always right...except me...well, I thought I was wrong once...but, I was mistaken.wink_face.gif

 

The Orange globes now rate #3 on my favorites list...right after the Bugle Boy 1959 D-getters and the Lorenz 3-mica (of which, I listened to again this weekend and they are not leaving my Lyr until they die...or I do...). biggrin.gif

I always "saved" them because I was afraid I'd never come across another set, but what good is saving them?  Listening is the thing.  If/when they croak, I'll just move down my list or move on to another amp.

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends


Yeah...last auction I saw each tube was sold for $300.  It's crazy but it's reality.  It's official that's Lorenz Stuttgart is rare tube.

Save it.

post #6679 of 8735
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Originally Posted by gerald410 View Post

I wonder on about 1959 d-getters there is almost no indentifiers on the tubes itself:(  I got them from from Mercedesman. The look like d-getters how to be sure? Only pair that i've gotten with no or little silkscreen.

 

The etched codes should be there. "D" refers to the shape of the getter; see http://www.head-fi.org/t/563884/little-dot-tube-amps-vacuum-tube-rolling-guide/555#post_8951850.

post #6680 of 8735
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Originally Posted by HK_sends View Post

None of us are always right...except me...well, I thought I was wrong once...but, I was mistaken.wink_face.gif

 

The Orange globes now rate #3 on my favorites list...right after the Bugle Boy 1959 D-getters and the Lorenz 3-mica (of which, I listened to again this weekend and they are not leaving my Lyr until they die...or I do...). biggrin.gif

I always "saved" them because I was afraid I'd never come across another set, but what good is saving them?  Listening is the thing.  If/when they croak, I'll just move down my list or move on to another amp.

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends

 

My list so far (still have a lot of listening to do and much to learn):

 

#1 - Lorenz Stuttgart 3-mica

#2 - Amperex USN-CEP

#3 and #4 - Bugle Boys and Orange Globes; some days I like one better; some days the other; several different sets of each.

#5 - Siemens & Halske CCa; Grey Plates (I've only listened to these on a Lyr with HD 650's and DT880's; I suspect they may be better on the LG with LCD-3's, but I haven't had a chance to listen yet).

 

I have 4 RTC's on the way - not sure where these will place, but from what I've read here, I suspect they will do very well. I've also not had a chance to listen to some Mullards and a set of Amperex White Labels that I have.

 

So far, I am not a big fan of the Lorenz SEL's; they sound OK,  but not as good as the above with my setups. Perhaps with more burn-in time they will change.

post #6681 of 8735

My list so far:

 

1. Lorenz Stuttgart ECC85

...

..

.

2=. Brimar 6BQ7A

2=. Mullard 6BQ7A (Fakes made in Taiwan, don't know the real make)

4=. Phillips PCC189 (Mullard Blackburn)

4=. Siemens PCC189 (A frame)

6. Voskhod 6N1P

7. SEL Lorenz PCC88

8. Raytheon 6922

 

I've not rolled any of the expensive tubes yet like Siemens CCa or Telefunkens. Bit out of my budget.

post #6682 of 8735
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Originally Posted by ilikepooters View Post

My list so far:

 

1. Lorenz Stuttgart ECC85

...

..

.

2=. Brimar 6BQ7A

2=. Mullard 6BQ7A (Fakes made in Taiwan, don't know the real make)

4=. Phillips PCC189 (Mullard Blackburn)

4=. Siemens PCC189 (A frame)

6. Voskhod 6N1P

7. SEL Lorenz PCC88

8. Raytheon 6922

 

I've not rolled any of the expensive tubes yet like Siemens CCa or Telefunkens. Bit out of my budget.


Yeah, Now I'm looking for that baby.  BUT, I can only see one single tube in ebay.

 

Thanks for your info.

post #6683 of 8735
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Originally Posted by R Scott Ireland View Post

 

My list so far (still have a lot of listening to do and much to learn):

 

#1 - Lorenz Stuttgart 3-mica

#2 - Amperex USN-CEP

#3 and #4 - Bugle Boys and Orange Globes; some days I like one better; some days the other; several different sets of each.

#5 - Siemens & Halske CCa; Grey Plates (I've only listened to these on a Lyr with HD 650's and DT880's; I suspect they may be better on the LG with LCD-3's, but I haven't had a chance to listen yet).

 

I have 4 RTC's on the way - not sure where these will place, but from what I've read here, I suspect they will do very well. I've also not had a chance to listen to some Mullards and a set of Amperex White Labels that I have.

 

So far, I am not a big fan of the Lorenz SEL's; they sound OK,  but not as good as the above with my setups. Perhaps with more burn-in time they will change.


Yeah, Lorenz is in my wishlist #1. and Siemens & Halske 60's O getter gray or silver shield. CCa and RTC Ecc188

post #6684 of 8735

Hello again guys :)

 

Someone posted lot of pages ago Lyr compatible tube types ... I checked some out and found this monster -> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matched-Pair-of-Tungsram-NOS-NIB-E80CC-12au7-ECC82-tubes-Ships-from-US-/181019573569?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item2a259b7d41

 

 

 

Is this one really compatible with Lyr ? Because if it is than I have to try it, it looks massive biggrin.gif


Edited by Flisker - 4/23/13 at 10:37am
post #6685 of 8735

This is a list i made of tubes known to work in Lyr.

 

6BZ7/6BQ7A/ECC180
6N1P/6N1P-VI/6N1P-EV/6N1P-EB

6N2P (possibly)
6N23P/6N23P-EV
6DJ8
7DJ8
6922
7308
CCa
E88CC
ECC88
ECC85
E188CC
E288CC
PCC88
ECC189 (Variable mu, not recommended but sound great to me)
PCC189 (as above)
6CG7/6FQ7

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Originally Posted by Flisker View Post

Hello again guys :)

 

Someone posted lot of pages ago Lyr compatible tube types ... I checked some out and found this monster -> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matched-Pair-of-Tungsram-NOS-NIB-E80CC-12au7-ECC82-tubes-Ships-from-US-/181019573569?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item2a259b7d41

 

 

 

Is this one really compatible with Lyr ? Because if it is than I have to try it, it looks massive biggrin.gif

post #6686 of 8735
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Originally Posted by Flisker View Post

Hello again guys :)

 

Someone posted lot of pages ago Lyr compatible tube types ... I checked some out and found this monster -> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matched-Pair-of-Tungsram-NOS-NIB-E80CC-12au7-ECC82-tubes-Ships-from-US-/181019573569?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item2a259b7d41

 

 

 

Is this one really compatible with Lyr ? Because if it is than I have to try it, it looks massive biggrin.gif

I don't believe those are compatible because they are 12 volt tubes of the 12AU7 family.  If you can make them work in a Lyr, more power to you (no pun intended...wink_face.gif)...

I'm afraid if someone gets too far off the beaten path on tubes, they could end up damaging the amp components and void their warranty.  Not all nine-pin tubes are wired the same.

Caveat Emptor!

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends


Edited by HK_sends - 4/23/13 at 11:04am
post #6687 of 8735
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Originally Posted by Flisker View Post

Hello again guys :)

 

Someone posted lot of pages ago Lyr compatible tube types ... I checked some out and found this monster -> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matched-Pair-of-Tungsram-NOS-NIB-E80CC-12au7-ECC82-tubes-Ships-from-US-/181019573569?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item2a259b7d41

 

 

 

Is this one really compatible with Lyr ? Because if it is than I have to try it, it looks massive biggrin.gif

 

Wrong pin-out, i thought it was the same originally but pin 9 is different, chances are it will break your Lyr.

post #6688 of 8735
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Originally Posted by ilikepooters View Post

 

Wrong pin-out, i thought it was the same originally but pin 9 is different, chances are it will break your Lyr.

 

Than it's off the table ofc, thx guys.

post #6689 of 8735
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Originally Posted by Flisker View Post

 

Than it's off the table ofc, thx guys.

 

I am however looking into re-wiring a cheap chinese socket saver to make them work popcorn.gif

post #6690 of 8735
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Originally Posted by ilikepooters View Post


I think a tube that could really suit your cans would be the 6N23P-EV.

Some say it's junk but others really rate the sound. If you can get them cheap enough they are surely worth giving a go.


All variants of this tube reportedly take a lot of burn in, some say 100 hours, and the treble can be slightly harsh until they have burned in properly.

Listening to them right now after 30 hours of burn in and start to really enjoy them. With lyr.
Good bass , natural sounding, slight rolled off treble which could suggest lack of detail but is easy on the ears. Not as 3D as the amperex bugle boys (no " pigs in space" sensation) . Not as creamy as Sylvania 's or GE's.
Combine good with sennheiser 598 AKG 701 and hifiman 300 so far. In doubt about Hifiman 500,
The main reason i bought a Lyr. They don't seem to open open up.
Work in progress.
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