Feb 24, 2012 at 3:34 PM Post #1,186 of 4,841
Well, in regards to something like the FA 011, the Livewires are better in every way except sound stage size and bass quantity, overall clarity and intimacy is much better, more lively, more enveloping.  Consider the livewires being the only custom iem brand that will give you a fully rotating 360 degree mold and cable that allows you to wrap it over your ear, or sling it downward like you wear earbuds, which is what I prefer.  I love it to death, they trimmed the cable to my desired length for free and they had magnificent customer service.  I posted a desolate review on them, nobody replied or read it.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/582824/livewire-custom-dual-driver-iem-review-best-250-ive-ever-spent
 
Feb 24, 2012 at 3:45 PM Post #1,187 of 4,841
I actually just read it a few minutes before your response haha. Your ratings seemed kinda bad in the initial post, I did read the update later down and obviously you like them a lot now. My main concern with the Livewire series is the sound sig, I've read many people describe it as laid back, and I'm not really a huge fan of laid back sound (learned that through HD650's) & the general consensus that it is somewhat bass light, and I love my bass I have to admit.  It seems like the dominating contender for mid level  customs is the JH5, but then again that is $150 more that the Livewire Duals. Once again I'm getting ahead of myself already, I may end up loving the HE400's and keep them :P. I have always liked the intimacy of IEM's and have personally never been one to really appreciate sound stage to be honest. I already feel myself wanting to explore the customs option more seriously lol.
 
P.S thanks for the tip on the earplugsolutions.com kit, I would be more comfortable spending only $15 and doing it myself anyways, so if I do ever get customs I will probably go that route!
 
Edit: Also I'm sure this topic has been hammered many times, but how practical are custom IEM's for at home listening as far as comfort is concerned. I mean obviously they are more comfortable than universal IEM's but how do they match again the likes of the mid level comfort kings in full-sized like HD650's or Beyers? The main discomforting thing to me about universal IEM's was the suctioning, and I have come across a few IEM's that didn't suction but their sound kinda sucked haha, but I hear that the suctioning is non-existent in customs? How practical is it to sit in the comfort of your own home with customs in your ears for hours at a time?​
 
Feb 24, 2012 at 4:01 PM Post #1,188 of 4,841
I rated it a 4 out of 5 overall...that was bad?  lol...well the livewires are laid back, a semi colored set that is very fun and relaxing at the same time to my ears,  they are not bass light, they have some deepness and rumble but its on the lighter end of bass moderate.  A bass lovers iem this is not..
 
Feb 24, 2012 at 4:12 PM Post #1,189 of 4,841


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I rated it a 4 out of 5 overall...that was bad?  lol...well the livewires are laid back, a semi colored set that is very fun and relaxing at the same time to my ears,  they are not bass light, they have some deepness and rumble but its on the lighter end of bass moderate.  A bass lovers iem this is not..



Well the value part was good, but bass, highs, and soundstage are all 3's. Personally I've always thought of 3's as kinda "meh" :P.
 
Feb 24, 2012 at 4:42 PM Post #1,190 of 4,841
you are right now that I read back, it seemed to come out in a way I didn't intend it to.  Even I got the impression they might not be that good, when in fact they are the best sound I have heard to date.  My ratings were based on quantity, not quality.  They are middle ground pretty much in ever area, not too much bass but not lacking at all with highs that are never fatiguing and never sibilant even with very harsh tracks known to be hissy.  They have an average sound stage in width and height but above average in depth, what I love about them is the overall placement.  They got it right for me, I prefer a very close sounding mid and vocal experience, I hate middle ground and distant sound.  No set, and I mean this, not one set in full size headphones, portables, earbuds or anything Ive reviewed had sonic placement that can best the livewires.  They are perfection to my ears, I cannot say the same for anyone else but for me, this is precisely what I want.  This is what music should sound like to me, moderate bass that is soft and gentle, never boomy or bloated, close up mids intimate, relaxing, never fatiguing, highs that are never harsh and are not overly bright, easily driven, comfortable ( rotating molds and custom length is amazing to have ) all at a very reasonable price.  So far, nothing has lured me in like these have and I swear I've reviewed and been through at least 2 dozen sets including all the orthos just this year alone. Sure they were more clear and dynamic, had loads more bass or had a massive sound stage, but I'll never go back, custom iems are the way to go for me.  I can take them anywhere, nobody looks at me like i am insane or have a satellite dish on my head and I get excellent isolation.  
 
They make my FA011 sound a little muffled and very distant.  I dont mean to hype them but I fear they wont ever get the praise they deserve, they are $250 customs...they are well made, well suited and customized to you.  I am super intrigued by customs and just never wanted to use them before.  I have trouble with fit issues in regular iems and never gave a thought to customs, due to being so expensive.  Never thought a custom can be this well suited to me, the sad thing is I dont want to upgrade. I feel very happy with them and I've hit my sweet spot.  Right price, right kind of sound.  Recently, as some might already know, I lost my faith in Hi Fi and find that mid fi is where all the action is at, the best all arounders, best bang for the buck.  The Livewires are excellent all arounders, right from Jazz to classical, classical to rock, rock to big band, everything sounds very nice.  Cant really go wrong, as my thread title states " best $250 I ever spent" 
 
Feb 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM Post #1,191 of 4,841
Ohh, I didn't realize it was based on quantity. Thanks for clearing all that up. They do sound really interesting to me and I will definitely consider them as an option. Thanks for your insight on them, you've got me really thinking about them now haha. Not to mention the price is only $250. Just out of curiosity, what was the turn around time for you once they received your impressions?
 
Feb 25, 2012 at 12:35 AM Post #1,194 of 4,841
 
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No word on your livewires yet, joe?  I've hit the wall with headphones a few days ago after purchasing the Fischer Audio FA011.  I have owned every single major headphone under 2k and I prefer the Livewires over all of them, that includes the hifiman he500/6 and lcd2/3.  I think the livewire dual hit a sweet spot with me, it is by far the most intimate experience Ive had in audio, then again its the only custom ive owned so i cant say as I am sure there are much better iems out there.  But, for $250, fully customized and with a rotating cup so I can wear them slung downward, ugh, awesome.  Still a great buy IMO after the last few months with them.  I went back to mid fi and will never go back to hifi again until something super cheap comes out that is life changing, none of the expensive sets are worth it, too big, too distant sounding, uncomfortable, requires too much power to use, ect ect.  My livewires outlasted all of them, I am totally fine with it being the only headphone I own.


Not sure when, but I will get the trips some day in the near future.
 
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Edit: Also I'm sure this topic has been hammered many times, but how practical are custom IEM's for at home listening as far as comfort is concerned. I mean obviously they are more comfortable than universal IEM's but how do they match again the likes of the mid level comfort kings in full-sized like HD650's or Beyers? The main discomforting thing to me about universal IEM's was the suctioning, and I have come across a few IEM's that didn't suction but their sound kinda sucked haha, but I hear that the suctioning is non-existent in customs? How practical is it to sit in the comfort of your own home with customs in your ears for hours at a time?


I use custom IEMs at home and have had cans including the Tesla T1 and LCD-2.  Custom IEMs are much easier on my ears as full sized cans can make my head hot or become uncomfortable due to my reading glasses.  Plus, custom IEMs, at least the higher end ones, can respond to higher quality desktop sources and amps quite well.
 
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you are right now that I read back, it seemed to come out in a way I didn't intend it to.  Even I got the impression they might not be that good, when in fact they are the best sound I have heard to date.  My ratings were based on quantity, not quality.  They are middle ground pretty much in ever area, not too much bass but not lacking at all with highs that are never fatiguing and never sibilant even with very harsh tracks known to be hissy.  They have an average sound stage in width and height but above average in depth, what I love about them is the overall placement.  They got it right for me, I prefer a very close sounding mid and vocal experience, I hate middle ground and distant sound.  No set, and I mean this, not one set in full size headphones, portables, earbuds or anything Ive reviewed had sonic placement that can best the livewires.  They are perfection to my ears, I cannot say the same for anyone else but for me, this is precisely what I want.  This is what music should sound like to me, moderate bass that is soft and gentle, never boomy or bloated, close up mids intimate, relaxing, never fatiguing, highs that are never harsh and are not overly bright, easily driven, comfortable ( rotating molds and custom length is amazing to have ) all at a very reasonable price.  So far, nothing has lured me in like these have and I swear I've reviewed and been through at least 2 dozen sets including all the orthos just this year alone. Sure they were more clear and dynamic, had loads more bass or had a massive sound stage, but I'll never go back, custom iems are the way to go for me.  I can take them anywhere, nobody looks at me like i am insane or have a satellite dish on my head and I get excellent isolation.  
 
They make my FA011 sound a little muffled and very distant.  I dont mean to hype them but I fear they wont ever get the praise they deserve, they are $250 customs...they are well made, well suited and customized to you.  I am super intrigued by customs and just never wanted to use them before.  I have trouble with fit issues in regular iems and never gave a thought to customs, due to being so expensive.  Never thought a custom can be this well suited to me, the sad thing is I dont want to upgrade. I feel very happy with them and I've hit my sweet spot.  Right price, right kind of sound.  Recently, as some might already know, I lost my faith in Hi Fi and find that mid fi is where all the action is at, the best all arounders, best bang for the buck.  The Livewires are excellent all arounders, right from Jazz to classical, classical to rock, rock to big band, everything sounds very nice.  Cant really go wrong, as my thread title states " best $250 I ever spent" 


Wow, that is some great praise!
 
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joe, can you compare the iphone 4s with i fuzen, iphone 4s without amp, iphone 3G source matching with LS8?


Yes, when I have the time.
 
Feb 25, 2012 at 1:49 AM Post #1,195 of 4,841
 
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joe, can you compare the iphone 4s with i fuzen, iphone 4s without amp, iphone 3G source matching with LS8?


iPhone 3G is slightly more detailed and natural sounding in the treble region than the 4S but the mids, especially vocals are cleaner and clearer in the 4S, however the differences are really pretty small.  The HPO of the 4S is much smaller and has more forward mids vs. the more spacious, airy, and brighter i.Fuzen.  The overall presentation of the i.Fuzen sounds cleaner with better instrument separation, imaging, and focus along with a good deal more brightness.  Bass is more controlled with a little more depth from the i.Fuzen, but not by too much.
 
 
Feb 25, 2012 at 4:58 AM Post #1,196 of 4,841
i just got my ACS T1L, and sadly it doesn't come with the Pelican case or any protective case of any kind....
and somehow i find its peaking at about 5~6KHz straight out of the box, it sounded sharper than mine 535mod's highs(which shall be almost the same as LS8)
is this just something to do with mine?
(p.s. i have got that little micro-fone which sits on the face-plate removed.... dont know if that affects the crossover...)
 
Feb 25, 2012 at 8:04 AM Post #1,200 of 4,841
You!
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That silicone looks much more comfortable than the hard acrylic I'm used to.
 
- Are they glow in the dark or something?
 

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