[jerg]

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It's just baffling to me because your the first person i've heard from who's ever said this about the HD-600. I seriously don't believe this is the general consensus. I've heard the K702 and DT-880 be called thin, but the HD-600

I guess if everyone here agrees, then you're right. I just haven't heard this before. It's kind of a shock! Doesn't matter that much to me. I now hate to see what you'd think of the HD-598!
 
Getting a tube amp just to warm up the sound and add weight to the HD-600 seems kind of silly. I could understand the K702. Of course I'm sure those aren't the only benefits. Actually this isn't so silly since i'd like to buy a hybrid tube amp for my $50 DJ100

 
I guess i'm abnormal because (IMO) adding any more thickness to the mids of the HD-600 would make them a muffled and congested mess. Hmm, maybe not. Probably depends on the amp.
 
BTW does anyone know if the HE-400 is warmer than the HD-600? I don't even know if they have any similarities. If it's as warm as the HD-650 I probably won't like it.
 
NOTE: This isn't a big deal to me. Not trying to argue, It's just that hearing the HD-600 being called thin weirded me out. Never heard that. Maybe I need to hang around in this thread more.
 
Thinnest sounding headphone I ever heard was the Koss A/250. I think that's the one rare headphone that almost would require a tube amp for me to like!

 
Everything in this hobby is relative; if someone likes the planar (HFM/Audeze) sound then HD600s will sound thin to them, simply due to the lack of bass robustness relative to planars. That doesn't mean HD600s are objectively thin, it is just faster-sounding than planars due to its voicing.
 
HE400s are warm but laid-back, with a strong emphasis on upper treble. Peculiar, I know, it's puzzling trying to describe its colouration to people who have not auditioned it in-person.

 

[mrAdrian]

I was in denial about adding tube 'distortions' to the hd580 as well until I tried. Still couldn't explain why it benefited from warmer mids/smoothness but there it is!

 

[linglingjr]

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I think the HE-400 is definitely warmer than the HD600 and warmer still than the HD650.  

That is also what I've heard, too bad..
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It's just baffling to me because your the first person i've heard from who's ever said this about the HD-600. I seriously don't believe this is the general consensus.
 

I agree I don't think that "thin" is an appropriate way to describe the HD600s compared to other cans.

 

[BobJS]

FWIW, until yesterday, I would say I was getting the best sound out of my H650 and HD600 direct out of my Dragonfly Dac/amp.  This is compared to my other options including an E09K/E17 and a JDS O2.
 
I just acquired a Schiit Asgard yesterday and I would say this now produces my best desktop listening experience, especially with the Senns (HD650 AND HD600)

 

[devhen]

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[kamalz]

I have the privilage to own hd 600 with cardas cable  driven by mulard tubes  & a very good source, wireworld eclipse cables etc etc
what i can say is that it sounds like electrostats & difinite a class "a" stereophile sound..
i myself own maggies speaker so i think i know what i am talking about
the thud of low bass from the kick of the drummer , the piano , the guitar string is so life like.. damn scary good
it can produce  3d sound  no doubt  & i almost cried when i listen to adele concert in royal albert hall when i finally know & clearly realize
she said "thankssss"  & not "ssss"   right after she finish her song " someone like you".
 
To me HD 600 performs better  for every upgrade i made to my system..
I begin upgrading my hd600 ever since i heard the beyerdynamic t1 tesla ..
if driven to its potential, the hd600 can play with the big boys
 
i also own grado 125i  but it cannot be compared at all to the hd600
 
Only on thing i realize with this hd600.. you need to find the exact match in your rigs to truly hear what hd600 is all about
 
It is not the most accurate headphones , but it just add a little little little  bit of texture  to the accurateness so that we can enjoy music..

 

[PeterPangea]

I purchased a pair of these used for $250 and couldn't be happier! They fit extremely well on a guy with a big noggin' and glasses like me, and sound delicious. I have 'em amped to my PA2V2, what are your guys opinion on that setup?

 

[Eisenhower]

I always thought it was weird that people would pair the hd600 with a single ended tube amp... seems counter productive to buy a neutral, analytical headphone and pair it with an amp that isn't.
 

 

[anoxy]

The thing I love most about my HD600 is that when I sit down at my computer and put them on, I don't analyze or over think the music. I just enjoy it. I feel like a lot of people forget to do that sometimes. 

 

[FlySweep]

I always thought it was weird that people would pair the hd600 with a single ended tube amp... seems counter productive to buy a neutral, analytical headphone and pair it with an amp that isn't.

 
In a strictly professional or monitoring environment (where accuracy is of paramount importance), pairing the HD600 with a tube amp isn't productive.  But Eisenhower, my friend, what most of us here are doing with the HD600 isn't about productivity.. it's about enjoyment 

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I'm glad the HD600 is neutral(ish).. its signature provides flexibility.  Sometimes, I love pairing it with an uncolored, transparent, solid state amp so I can marvel at the HD600's native tuning.  Other times, when the HD600's relaxed neutrality is heard through a nice tube, it provides a unique, artfully-colored sound.
 
Plus, the unique coloration & sound an HD600+tube amp provides is difficult to, in my experience, reproduce or approximate with just a 'colored' headphone & transparent, solid state amp.  There are certain (not necessarily technical) nuances that an HD600 + 'tube amp' delivers that a colored headphone + 'neutral, solid state amp' can't replicate.  I'm not insinuating one pairing is better than the other.. just that each pairing has it's own strength & weaknesses.

 

[linglingjr]

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The thing I love most about my HD600 is that when I sit down at my computer and put them on, I don't analyze or over think the music. I just enjoy it. I feel like a lot of people forget to do that sometimes. 

lol when i want to listen to hip hop/rap/electronic/dubstep this is nice but some times their laid back signature freaks me out and makes me afraid that I damaged my hearing some how.  I've been super paranoid about that the last few weeks lol

 

[hamburgerladdy]

lol when i want to listen to hip hop/rap/electronic/dubstep this is nice but some times their laid back signature freaks me out and makes me afraid that I damaged my hearing some how.  I've been super paranoid about that the last few weeks lol

I stuck one each in the circular vent behind the grille for that reason.

I think it works considering that the maker boasts it has "[t]weak-friendly, modular components."

 

[anoxy]

I'm more of an IEM kinda guy, so I haven't heard many full sized cans to compare. But I don't really get the whole 'laid-back' feeling that most people are attributing to the 600s. Maybe it's my source pairing (NFB 12.1) or probably just because I don't know what the opposite of laid back would sound like in a full can.

 

[FlySweep]

I'm more of an IEM kinda guy, so I haven't heard many full sized cans to compare. But I don't really get the whole 'laid-back' feeling that most people are attributing to the 600s. Maybe it's my source pairing (NFB 12.1) or probably just because I don't know what the opposite of laid back would sound like in a full can.

Listen to a low-/mid-tier Grado.

 

[mrAdrian]

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Listen to a low-/mid-tier Grado.

 
Is rs1 mid-tier? xp