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Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
Jan 27, 2012 at 7:05 PM Post #3,586 of 48,566
If your PC has an optical out (S/PDIF), The Turtle Beach DSS 2 would work. It's an external amp...

As long as you set whatever game to output Dolby Digital/Dolby Live, and to a lesser extent Dolby Pro Logic II, the DSS will convert it to Dolby Headphone.

Frankly, I prefer an external solution, because you could use it for consoles and even TV.
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 7:27 PM Post #3,587 of 48,566
 
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mad lust envy said:
If your PC has an optical out (S/PDIF), The Turtle Beach DSS 2 would work. It's an external amp...
As long as you set whatever game to output Dolby Digital/Dolby Live, and to a lesser extent Dolby Pro Logic II, the DSS will convert it to Dolby Headphone.
Frankly, I prefer an external solution, because you could use it for consoles and even TV.
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Oh, if only it were that easy. PC games generally keep all their surround channels in uncompressed PCM. S/PDIF only has enough bandwidth for two PCM channels. In other words, you only get stereo through S/PDIF unless the game just happens to support on-the-fly Dolby Digital encoding (and the vast majority don't), or (far more likely) the S/PDIF output device supports Dolby Digital Live (and most integrated motherboard codecs don't).
 
But if he wants to get an idea of what Dolby Headphone is like on the cheap, the Xonar U3 is only $40 and is basically a small USB stick.
 
I would prefer dedicated solutions for PC and consoles, though, hence why my desktops have X-Fi cards and my consoles have the SU-DH1.
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 7:30 PM Post #3,588 of 48,566
For real? My bad for assuming it would work the same way typical non-PC optical outs do. :blink:


I packed up my DT990 to ship back to Amazon tomorrow, and I'm having second thoughts. GAH. If I were to get the Headzone, I would assume it'd work better because it's 6x the impedance of the Headzone's 100ohm output impedance...

There really isn't any other open can I'd rather have right now than the DT990... other than the T1, and there's no way in hell I can afford it.
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 7:36 PM Post #3,589 of 48,566
I am using the HD558 with the Tritton AX720 mixamp.  I really enjoy the clarity and separation of the HD558, especially in FPS games.  However, for non-competitive (single-player) games, I wish I could have a little bit more bass punch.
 
Would I be better off with the Turtle Beach Earforce DSS due to the bass boost feature?
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 7:41 PM Post #3,590 of 48,566
I'm not sure how well the bass boost is implemented, but if it's anyuthing like the Mixamp 5.8's bass boost, no, it's not worth it as it will distort a bit too much. I suggest getting a pair of headphones for non-competitive use.

Agh, I don't wanna hit 4000 posts already! :frowning2:
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 7:57 PM Post #3,591 of 48,566


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namelesspfg said:
 

Oh, if only it were that easy. PC games generally keep all their surround channels in uncompressed PCM. S/PDIF only has enough bandwidth for two PCM channels. In other words, you only get stereo through S/PDIF unless the game just happens to support on-the-fly Dolby Digital encoding (and the vast majority don't), or (far more likely) the S/PDIF output device supports Dolby Digital Live (and most integrated motherboard codecs don't).
 
But if he wants to get an idea of what Dolby Headphone is like on the cheap, the Xonar U3 is only $40 and is basically a small USB stick.
 
I would prefer dedicated solutions for PC and consoles, though, hence why my desktops have X-Fi cards and my consoles have the SU-DH1.
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I'm actually trying to figure out if motherboards have this feature or not.  it seems to depend on the chip, and if you have the realtek drivers versus the generic drivers
 
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM Post #3,593 of 48,566
 
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I'm actually trying to figure out if motherboards have this feature or not.  it seems to depend on the chip, and if you have the realtek drivers versus the generic drivers
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Yeah, it definitely seems to vary by motherboard and driver package. Some Realtek-based motherboards have it, others don't. Modified drivers may be able to circumvent that.
 
Dolby Digital Live isn't really a new feature, either-just look at all those NVIDIA nForce2-based boards with SoundStorm, which has Dolby Digital Live support as a rule (even if it wasn't exactly called that back then). Word is that NVIDIA had originally developed that sort of feature with the Xbox in mind and carried it over to the PC side in the following years, until nForce3 and later did away with SoundStorm entirely. (It also might explain why original Xbox games almost always support Dolby Digital while relatively fewer PS2 games did, instead opting for Pro Logic II in spite of that Toslink S/PDIF jack in the back.)
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 9:41 PM Post #3,594 of 48,566


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mad lust envy said:
I'm not sure how well the bass boost is implemented, but if it's anyuthing like the Mixamp 5.8's bass boost, no, it's not worth it as it will distort a bit too much.
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The DSS bass boost is actually nicer.  The DSS bass boost is cleaner and tighter, boosting just bass - the mixamp boosts a bit too much midbass which can muddy the sound slightly.  The DSS also boosts stronger (if you crank up the dial ) and gives more slam.
 
I also found the mixamp bass boost to clip more often than the DSS's.
 
EDIT: Speaking of sound differences between the two, the mixamp has more mids than the DSS, which I kind of like. 
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 9:49 PM Post #3,595 of 48,566
Well, my DT990 600s are gone.  I Shipped them of today.  They were a bit too "fun" for me, and I prefer the Q701s.
 
I have a pair of K702 coming, and I will get to the bottom of the "K702 and Q701 are identical/different" debates.
 
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 9:50 PM Post #3,596 of 48,566
Take away your DT990 listing from your sig then. :p

I'm still on the fence on whether to return mine or not... :frowning2:

edit: though listening to Lacuna Coil's new album, the D7000 overplays the bass a bit too much for my liking formetal, not to mention that just after an hour, my ears are sore from the heat, and my skin is irritated from the pleather. Looks like I'm probably keeping my DT990s because they will be getting used when I get pleather/bass fatigue. The faster bass will be welcome especially for metal.

Looks like I'm really becoming quite sensitive to bass...
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 10:00 PM Post #3,597 of 48,566


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mad lust envy said:
Take away your DT990 listing from your sig then.
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I'm still on the fence on whether to return mine or not...
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Touché
 
Aren't you using the D7000 for music and  gaming?  Do you have pics of your PC360 headband? 
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 10:01 PM Post #3,598 of 48,566
I have a question about sound on MW3.. FOR some reason, and this has happened with my Sony PS3 headset as well, randomly.. not frequent but enough to extremely annoy me. A SUPER LOUD irritating sound is emitting from whatever is putting out sound (my headset, tv, etc). It's very difficult to describe how it sounds, but it isn't normal.. and I'm worried it will destroy whatever is putting out sound. Anyone experience this?
 
EDIT: It's almost like a metallic echoing sound.. if that makes sense. I have no idea what it is happening.
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 10:07 PM Post #3,599 of 48,566
chicolom said:
Touché
 
Aren't you using the D7000 for music and  gaming?  Do you have pics of your PC360 headband? 
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Yeah. But the DT990 would be the best substitute for the D7000 when I get tired of having them on my head (which is likely, whereas I can wear the DT990s for hours upon hours).

I'll post some pics up tomorrow. Gotta get ready for work.

Though my DX mic's 3.5mm plug snapped off today, lol. I was testing the PS3 chat cable, and when I went to connect the DX mic to the Y cable, it just snapped off... :eek:

I'm not sure it's worthwhile getting the antlion mod mic, when I have a perfectly good headset in the PC360. I'd only get maybe like $70 profit in the end if I got the mod mic. The D7000 is certainly not a headphone I'd use for when I'm using voice chat anyways. IF I returned the DT990s for maybe the Q701, then maybe the PC360s would be worth selling. I really like not having two cables dangling though, which is why the PC360 is still favorable.
 
Jan 27, 2012 at 10:30 PM Post #3,600 of 48,566


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But the DT990 would be the best substitute for the D7000 when I get tired of having them on my head (which is likely, whereas I can wear the DT990s for hours upon hours).
 
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I pretty much require open ear + velour 
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   Makes choosing headphones a lot easier.
 
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