Anyone ever use something like this? http://www.buttkickergear.com/ButtKicker_Gamer2_p/bk-gr.htm
 
I have one (I don't use their amp though- I have my own), but don't use it much anymore since I got a real subwoofer. It was pretty sweet for gaming with my old headphone rig.

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So you are the PC pro and I would like your input too. What can be done to maximize the gaming experience on a $250-$300 budget. MLE has been very helpful though I love gaming 10x more than music, what should I do to accomplish nirvana. Music to me is just something that keeps my mind from racing when I am doing something automatic like mowing the grass or changing my car's oil. I am sure these words are an abomination to audiophiles, so please do tell before I am banned from this site. 

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My usual gaming sound card recommendations are either this $43 X-Fi Titanium or a $120 X-Fi Titanium HD.
 
If you're not really into music, then perhaps you don't have to spend so much on audio equipment. The cheaper of the two will likely still sound good enough to you, and you could just get something like an AD700 (competitive) or SR850 (allegedly more balanced with some actual bass presence, but I haven't tried it myself) as your headphone of choice, coupled with a ModMic when they start shipping again...alternatively, if you don't mind spending $160 on a headset, you can treat yourself to the Sennheiser PC360 (haven't heard this one myself, but MLE likes it a lot for a headset).
 
Quick question: are you looking for something that gives you a competitive advantage (where boomy bass won't distract from the details), or are you looking for something more "fun"/immersive-sounding that might leave you shellshocked from explosions?

Competitive advantage is most important

Oh well i'm sending my DT-990 600 ohm back to where it came from. Why? There are several reasons why i'm sending it back but the biggest for me was that  some where in the 8K range just does not float my boat..
 
 It seems it was okay at first while playing music but as i started to game it started to become more and more piercing to my ears. One other thing is that it has tremendous amounts of bass even while 32hz band along with 62hz band on recon 3D eq is turned all the way down.. Games i played only three midnight club very good sound while plaing that and the back ground music steller along with BLOPS and MW3 could not find my MW disc so i did not play that..
 
Lets just say this can does sound great for music for sure as long as you dont get any music with too much sibilance in it or tissy percusion sounds.. I'd keep the can but for the same reason i never try to game with my HE-500 it does not work for audio cues for ME my OPINION here only!.  
 
    When alot of gun fire and explosions are going on it becomes a choir to pinpoint anything, gun fire, footsteps you name it. With the HE400 all these destractions could be happening and i'd still be able to separate gun shot location/positions while chaos was unfolding not so with the mighty HE-500 nor the 600ohm DT990
 
 I have tried the dss2, dss and recon3d with this can while going out of  each decoder separately then into an old receiver as my amp..
 
I will say this and its Just my opinion here, if anyone can get use to the cans characteristics the sometimes hot treble higher end and mega bass bottom end but if both where to be rolled off it could be beast  for positioning Maybe?
 
I think i need the Try the HD650 next but when the price drops yeah not at 400+ thats a bit much!
 
My sensitive ears and the DT990
0 was not a good match..

Wow, that's...uhm, surprising. I love mine for gaming and especially with music.
 
What you described is what I actually got with my old HD555 when gaming (the messy location/position, not the bass part obviously), which my trusty DT990 fixed with much greater soundstage, clarity and absolutely non-disturbing bass.
 
 
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Anyone ever use something like this? http://www.buttkickergear.com/ButtKicker_Gamer2_p/bk-gr.htm
 
I have one (I don't use their amp though- I have my own), but don't use it much anymore since I got a real subwoofer. It was pretty sweet for gaming with my old headphone rig.

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That's actually interesting. Too bad I either game on the sofa or on my bed. :S

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That's actually interesting. Too bad I either game on the sofa or on my bed. :S

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There are other larger models (from them and other companies) that can be mounted to bed frames, couches, etc., but they cost more and would require some creativity in how you mount them. Buttkicker does have some that can be put under a leg on your couch/bed. Not sure how powerful it would be, though.

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Quick question: are you looking for something that gives you a competitive advantage (where boomy bass won't distract from the details), or are you looking for something more "fun"/immersive-sounding that might leave you shellshocked from explosions?

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OK I just ordered the refurbished $43 X-Fi titanium and a used $129 DT990/32, now i believe it is time to look for an amplifier. MLE suggests the Fiio E7, E9, E11 - will these work well with what I purchased?

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There are other larger models (from them and other companies) that can be mounted to bed frames, couches, etc., but they cost more and would require some creativity in how you mount them. Buttkicker does have some that can be put under a leg on your couch/bed. Not sure how powerful it would be, though.

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I think that would depend on the couch/bed's size and weight.
I can't imagine it being good for the frame though.  The frames are not exactly designed to be shaken that often.
If you have steel frame on the bed it's a different matter though.  Just might still leave a mark on the floor beneath the bedpost because of the vibrations.

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Wow, that's...uhm, surprising. I love mine for gaming and especially with music.
 
What you described is what I actually got with my old HD555 when gaming (the messy location/position, not the bass part obviously), which my trusty DT990 fixed with much greater soundstage, clarity and absolutely non-disturbing bass.
 
 
That's actually interesting. Too bad I either game on the sofa or on my bed. :S

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Never said they where bad persay just not for ME too hot in the treble region and i did say the cans sound great with music just some music if  it is tissy sounding or kinda sibilant and the can seems to bring that out more and my ears are sensitive it seems to hot treble which these cans are.
 
Gaming for the fps games that i have tried are no better than my k701 or my  AD700 i don't use either of these can any more since getting my HE-400 but at the moment they are caput with no warranty.
 
I tried the DT990 out for curiosity only to see if  it would be better than my go to can HE-400 but i found out ALL that i needed to know about the 990.
 
I still have them until monday when then they will get shipped back unless somehow something changes my mind to keep them. They are not bad just seem to  not be my cup of tea..
 
 
 


 
That was my eq setting to cut out the bass and my treble setting to not irratate my ears. Btw the bass was still too much lol..
 
The recon was more customisable than either of the dss or the dss2. If i had the mixamp in which i sold i would have tried that too. Wow with the eq settings like that it reminds me its sounds like the AD700's..

Not 100% relevant but Mad Lust recommended the Dt 880s to me MONTHS ago I finally have them and I LOVE them for gaming! BGM's have never sounded so nice, and when your playing Metroid... the music is half the experince xD. Plus it makes RPGS more enjoyable since you can kinda zone out and get lost in the music! 

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OK I just ordered the refurbished $43 X-Fi titanium and a used $129 DT990/32, now i believe it is time to look for an amplifier. MLE suggests the Fiio E7, E9, E11 - will these work well with what I purchased?

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It should work fine with any of those amps. I won't say that it will due to lack of personal experience with all the products in question (both headphones and amps), but hearsay here suggests that you won't have issues.
 
By the way, when you get the sound card, use these drivers. They'll generally work better than the official driver packages.

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There are other larger models (from them and other companies) that can be mounted to bed frames, couches, etc., but they cost more and would require some creativity in how you mount them. Buttkicker does have some that can be put under a leg on your couch/bed. Not sure how powerful it would be, though.

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Yeah, doesn't sound like it'd be worth the investment in all honesty...I'll just stick with my headphones, which were already costly per se lol. Cool stuff nonetheless.
 
 
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Never said they where bad persay just not for ME too hot in the treble region and i did say the cans sound great with music just some music if  it is tissy sounding or kinda sibilant and the can seems to bring that out more and my ears are sensitive it seems to hot treble which these cans are.
 
Gaming for the fps games that i have tried are no better than my k701 or my  AD700 i don't use either of these can any more since getting my HE-400 but at the moment they are caput with no warranty.
 
I tried the DT990 out for curiosity only to see if  it would be better than my go to can HE-400 but i found out ALL that i needed to know about the 990.
 
I still have them until monday when then they will get shipped back unless somehow something changes my mind to keep them. They are not bad just seem to  not be my cup of tea..
 
 
 


 
That was my eq setting to cut out the bass and my treble setting to not irratate my ears. Btw the bass was still too much lol..
 
The recon was more customisable than either of the dss or the dss2. If i had the mixamp in which i sold i would have tried that too. Wow with the eq settings like that it reminds me its sounds like the AD700's..

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Of course, everyone has their own taste and I respect your opinion. Just wanted to share my different experience with 'em.
 
From what I read, I think that you could give the Q701 a try, although it shouldn't be much different than your AKG701...Besides with the HE-400 you're pretty much set honestly. I've never heard those, but I guess they must sound really good.
 
The mixamp is pretty much identical to the DSS (first revision), so you're not losing much there.

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It should work fine with any of those amps. I won't say that it will due to lack of personal experience with all the products in question (both headphones and amps)
 
By the way, when you get the sound card, use these drivers. They'll generally work better than the official driver packages.

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 Thanks for the drivers link, I am noob to this arena is there another good sub $100 amp you recommend? Thx

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Of course, everyone has their own taste and I respect your opinion. Just wanted to share my different experience with 'em.
ok no problem
 
From what I read, I think that you could give the Q701 a try, although it shouldn't be much different than your AKG701...Besides with the HE-400 you're pretty much set honestly. I've never heard those, but I guess they must sound really good.
 
k701 and q701 are one in the same or at least when you order drivers from Harmon Audio last time i checked the part numbers where the same, maybe inside the shells of the headsets they are made differently?
 
The mixamp is pretty much identical to the DSS (first revision), so you're not losing much there.
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Ya I haven't read through all the posts to see how many times you've posted that its got a lot of treble.  I just read the 1st page of your impressions and through out the site to find that out.  I still do like the Q701's for gaming.  I don't really think I'll be using them for music.