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Dec 16, 2012 at 3:55 AM Post #9,767 of 48,565
HRT's new HDMI Streamer, which grabs digital audio from HDMI then passes it through.  Of course, you can get that from optical too, but I think HDMI has more bandwith and isn't limited to 5.1 channels like optical is.  Could be more useful with the next gen of consoles. 
 
I'm not sure what the next-gen plans are for handling surround.  I assume DD 5.1 is so standardized that it will continue, but they will possibly add more DTS support. 
 
Of course, ideally consoles would have middleware that did the headphone surround more directly, instead of having to virtualize a a 5.1 system.  I don't expect them to get on that though. 
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In the meantime, I think someone -*cough* FiiO -  should make a more "audiophile" mixamp.  Something with more inputs (Optical, HDMI, possibly USB for use with a computer), a high quality DAC with a toggle switch to bake in Dolby Headphone in the D-to-A stage, and a direct line out to send to external amps.  Or just stick an E9 amp in the same box.
 
 

 
Dec 16, 2012 at 3:57 AM Post #9,768 of 48,565
Ah, I see. I have a feeling thats the way of the future for gaming. Hdmi streamer with DH enabling.
 
Dec 16, 2012 at 4:46 AM Post #9,769 of 48,565
Long time lurker first time poster.
 
Great thread and guide by the way. At the moment I am using the PC360s with a mixamp, but am looking to pick up a pair audiotechnica AD900s to use with the mixamp.
 
My questions are, are these $£100 better than the AD700s? and do they go well with the mixamp?
 
 
Thanks in advance for any replies
 
Dec 16, 2012 at 4:55 AM Post #9,770 of 48,565
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brown intruder said:
Long time lurker first time poster.
 
Great thread and guide by the way. At the moment I am using the PC360s with a mixamp, but am looking to pick up a pair audiotechnica AD900s to use with the mixamp.
 
My questions are, are these $£100 better than the AD700s? and do they go well with the mixamp?
 
 
Thanks in advance for any replies
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AD900s are sort of a sidegrade from the PC360s.  AD900s have a bigger soundstage, but less bass and a thinner sound than the PC360s.
 
Also, they're not $100 better than the AD700.  They have slightly better bass, and less sibilant treble.  The mids sound a little more congested on the AD900 and make the soundstage sound slightly less clear than the AD700s.
 
 

 
Dec 16, 2012 at 5:02 AM Post #9,771 of 48,565
Thanks for the quick reply.
 
I have been looking for weeks and weeks at forums and web-sites.. And its hard to nail down a good combo.
 
another quick question. What would you consider an upgrade in terms of everything over the PC360s? and would I need to add an amp (say  a E09 for example) into the mix to drive them correctly?
 
Because frankly, if there is one major problem with the mixamp, it is the fact that turning up chat just kills the volume! 
 
Sorry for the same questions that you guys probably get sick of answering everyday
 
Dec 16, 2012 at 5:07 AM Post #9,772 of 48,565
I was looking at some videos of the PLYR2 and thought to myself that you could totally hook up something like a DSS to it and make a makeshift DH wireless headset. The only fail of the PLYR2 that I can see is that it has 3 preset EQ's and I'm not entirely sure if any of those are flat.
 
Also, noticed that skullcandy's lifetime warranty doesn't include the gaming stuff, those only get 1 year :/
 
Dec 16, 2012 at 5:23 AM Post #9,773 of 48,565
Brown Intruder, look into the Q701. That is the next step over the AD700s, IMHO. And yes, definitely get an amp if you plan on using a mic.

Cal, I'm still not sold on wireless headsets, even the Plyr2. The A50s left me kind of disheartened.
 
Dec 16, 2012 at 5:29 AM Post #9,774 of 48,565
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brown intruder said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
 
I have been looking for weeks and weeks at forums and web-sites.. And its hard to nail down a good combo.
 
another quick question. What would you consider an upgrade in terms of everything over the PC360s? and would I need to add an amp (say  a E09 for example) into the mix to drive them correctly?
 
Because frankly, if there is one major problem with the mixamp, it is the fact that turning up chat just kills the volume! 
 
Sorry for the same questions that you guys probably get sick of answering everyday
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Argh!  MLE beat me to it...
 
Probably the Q701. Both PC360 and Q701 are pretty well balanced, but the Q701 is a tier up and has warmer punchier sound.  It's a funner more immersive sounding headphone.  The PC360 sounds flat and boring in comparison.  Both have a very good soundstage, although different.
 
If your close to losing volume with the PC360, Q701 will most likely push you over the edge and you'll need ampage.
 
Dec 16, 2012 at 5:41 AM Post #9,776 of 48,565
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I take it that extra amplification does not destroy the dolby headset put out by the mixamp?
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No.  It just...amplifies it.
 
Dec 16, 2012 at 8:51 AM Post #9,778 of 48,565
If I could choose:

Philips Fidelio X1
K702 65th Anniversary
Beyer T90
HD800
T1
Stax anything
SRH1840
SRH1440
Grado SR80i
Alessandro MS-1
HE500
Yuin G1A and G2A
LCD2 with vegan pads
LCD3 with vegan pads
HE-6
HE-300

That's mainly all I wanna try.
 
Dec 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM Post #9,779 of 48,565
Hmm, so I'm trying the Slyr's mixer, Mixamp pro 2013, and 5.8 off the Slyr all on stereo mode at their most balanced preset. Looks like the 5.8 is brighter than neutral for sure. The Mixamp 2013 is fuller sounding, and more dimensional. The Slyr's Mixer sounds closer to the Mixamp than to the 5.8.

Odd. I'll have to do more testing to be sure, but it definitely seems to be the case. I'm so used to the 5.8's signature, that the others seem warmer than neutral, but in actuality, they may be the neutral ones.

I did get the Mixer to work. I'm an idiot. I didn't realize you can just press in thecenter button and it mutes the mic. The mic definitely works off the Mixer and PS3.

I was playing Castlevania HD which is a stereo game, so I could test out the sound quality of the Mixer. Seems fine. Less harsh than the 5.8 in stereo mode.
 
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