Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
Oct 30, 2012 at 7:16 PM Post #8,776 of 48,562
Hey MLE, you might want to consider doing a small write-up about the differences between the three(?) Mixamp revisions. The 2013 revision seems to have changed the available inputs (no more RCA audio inputs, TOSLINK is now mini-TOSLINK, etc.). I think it'd be useful information for those looking to get a Mixamp.
 
Oct 30, 2012 at 8:58 PM Post #8,777 of 48,562
Hey MLE, you might want to consider doing a small write-up about the differences between the three(?) Mixamp revisions. The 2013 revision seems to have changed the available inputs (no more RCA audio inputs, TOSLINK is now mini-TOSLINK, etc.). I think it'd be useful information for those looking to get a Mixamp.

MLE if you agree, since I wrote the original decoder section, I'll write up the revision for the Astro Mixamps and submit it to you for editing/clarification.
 
Oct 30, 2012 at 9:12 PM Post #8,778 of 48,562
Ok, I am doing something wrong, I am totally new to headphone gaming. I am getting no sound from my setup.  I am using my Koss DJ-Pro 100’s (they work great in everything else), Zalman ZM-Mic1 and a Dual 3.5mm to 2.5mm (PC35-Xbox360). I am using the exact setup mentioned in some threads and I am not getting any sound at all in the makeshift headset. I even got the Syba SD-CM-UAUD USB Stereo Audio Adapter and tested it out on the PS3, still no sound.  The x-box adapter is a little loose too, anyone else deal with a loose xbox headset adapters? What am I doing wrong?
 
Oct 30, 2012 at 9:30 PM Post #8,779 of 48,562
I would troubleshoot your components by process of elimination... do you have a 2.5 headset (OEM microsoft) headset that comes with most Xbox360s? If so plug that in to the controller...if it works then its your splitter. Try another controller, the plug on your current one might not be working properly. I haven't turned on my PS3 in a little over 6 months so i cant really help you there. The 2.5mm on all my 360 controller's aren't exactly tight, but nor too loose either.
 
Oct 30, 2012 at 9:35 PM Post #8,780 of 48,562
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I know exactly how you feel, regarding full-sized can + amp. Even without my headphone amp arriving yet, I've experienced the same moving experience with music vs gaming... it truly is amazing what all the small differences add up to. Before, you hear all or most of the sounds and vocals in music, but after getting a reference setup, you realize that only now are you hearing the music, that what once was a game of trying to pull apart the strands that make up the sound is now an experience of music plunking the strands of your heartstrings.
 
Was that hella corny and merely half-articulate? Yes. Do you get what I'm getting at? I bet you do :wink:
 
And like I said on IEMs, the detail is there and you can probably hear directional cues pretty well. I'm willing to bet that, even with a more bassy IEM, you'd still have a clear impression that something is missing vs your full-sized can. Which can and desktop amp did you get, btw?
 

 
HD800 + WA6SE.
Can't tell you how hard it was to make the choice.  Left a crater where my wallet used to be.
 
If anyone ask is it worth it... maybe I'll get back to you after the break in period.
 
Details are just...phenomenal.  Sound clarity is soo good... I can crank it up higher than I thought possible on a headphone.  
I think I may have damaged my eardrums... kept increasing the volume bit by bit... 
 
Have to admit though, I find many recordings that I used to find enjoyable to be rather bad.
Defects are blaringly obvious.
 
Anyway, I need to get back to work to fill that crater I made  
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Oct 31, 2012 at 6:18 AM Post #8,781 of 48,562
Just realized why the HD650 hasn't shipped yet... its coming from NJ. Yikes. I guess next week is likely now.
 
Oct 31, 2012 at 8:17 AM Post #8,782 of 48,562
Hey MLE, you might want to consider doing a small write-up about the differences between the three(?) Mixamp revisions. The 2013 revision seems to have changed the available inputs (no more RCA audio inputs, TOSLINK is now mini-TOSLINK, etc.). I think it'd be useful information for those looking to get a Mixamp.


ruuku has pm-ed me with this...

I'll be adding it soon-ish. I'm DEAD tired. Lol, I don't trust myself editing the first post right now. It'll be added in the near future.

5.1 Wired Mixamp
Input: TOS Link, COAX, R/L RCA, 3.5mm Input (MP3/AUX), USB (power only)
OUT: 3.5mm (PC)

7.1 Wired Mixamp (2011 Version)
Changes from Mixamp 5.1 (2009):
1. TOS link now "doorless" Ships with a plug to prevent dust/damage
2.USB can now output stereo, default output is through TOS if avaliable
3.Master/Mix knobs now flat instead of tapered/rounded

7.1 Wired Mixamp (2013 Version)
Changes from Mixamp 7.1 (2011)
Added EQ Fuction/Button on face of Mixamp
"Daisy Chaining" does not require red 3.5mm male to male "bar" adapter
"Live streaming integrates game sound with incoming/outgoing voice chat"
TOSlink changed to mini-optical (3.5mm optical), Removed RCA/COAX Inputs, additional 3.5mm "STREAM" port
 
Oct 31, 2012 at 11:38 AM Post #8,783 of 48,562
I bought the Q701's yesterday from my job (Best Buy) and I'm utterly disgusted. They gave me a pair of broken headphones, and they were the last ones that they had. The right phone is broken, and they also do NOT go as loud as it should. Also when it hits a certain low note, the left phone starts to crackle. I checked the serial number on our system and apparently they had been returned 4 times in the past, Best Buy just put it right back on the shelves.
 
Hate this company. Can't believe I work for it -_-.
 
Anyways, don't buy from Best Buy ever. Does anybody know another company where I can shipp the white Q701's from?
 
Oct 31, 2012 at 11:45 AM Post #8,784 of 48,562
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I bought the Q701's yesterday from my job (Best Buy) and I'm utterly disgusted. They gave me a pair of broken headphones, and they were the last ones that they had. The right phone is broken, and they also do NOT go as loud as it should. Also when it hits a certain low note, the left phone starts to crackle. I checked the serial number on our system and apparently they had been returned 4 times in the past, Best Buy just put it right back on the shelves.
 
Hate this company. Can't believe I work for it -_-.
 
Anyways, don't buy from Best Buy ever. Does anybody know another company where I can shipp the white Q701's from?

 
Seriously?  Seriously?  You get those headphones for a great price, are well within your return policy, and can very easily swap it out for another one with very little trouble UNLESS you actually damaged it.  You can order a new one and have it delivered if you're set on the Q701.
 
Plus, Best Buy, nor most other retailers, actually build & package the product.  That's why one of the reasons they offer return policies.  Do you expect that other retailers are somehow getting a separate and better protected version of the Q701?  No.  They are all packaged, shipped, and stored pretty much in the same way.
 
On top of that, I'm well aware of the very nice discount you get from your company for brand new in box products.  So I'm a little taken aback by the fact you're complaining at all.
 
Sorry, but that just ruffled my feathers a bit.
 
Edit:  I see you purchased an open box product, but you can get it ordered through them for a NIB and just have to wait a little bit for one that has never been opened.  Your employee discount price for NIB is better than the open box price any ways.  The only reason I can figure that caused you not to want to go NIB was the wait.  I can relate to that, but it will be NIB and cheaper for you.
 
Oct 31, 2012 at 12:22 PM Post #8,785 of 48,562
5.1 Wired Mixamp
Input: TOS Link, COAX, R/L RCA, 3.5mm Input (MP3/AUX), USB (power only)
OUT: 3.5mm (PC)

7.1 Wired Mixamp (2011 Version)
Changes from Mixamp 5.1 (2009):
1. TOS link now "doorless" Ships with a plug to prevent dust/damage
2.USB can now output stereo, default output is through TOS if avaliable
3.Master/Mix knobs now flat instead of tapered/rounded

7.1 Wired Mixamp (2013 Version)
Changes from Mixamp 7.1 (2011)
Added EQ Fuction/Button on face of Mixamp
"Daisy Chaining" does not require red 3.5mm male to male "bar" adapter
"Live streaming integrates game sound with incoming/outgoing voice chat"
TOSlink changed to mini-optical (3.5mm optical), Removed RCA/COAX Inputs, additional 3.5mm "STREAM" port
I think there was also some connection with PS3 and/or X360 that was added or changed from the 2009 to 2011 version.
 
Oct 31, 2012 at 1:22 PM Post #8,786 of 48,562
I'm not mad because I got a defective product. I'm mad because Best Buy did not make a single effort to actually test returned product, and they try to sell it like new to the public. Of course it doesn't matter for me, I'm just going to return the paperweight and make sure they ship it back to the company - I could care less. What pisses me off is they try to sell **** that has been used, returned god knows how many times, as new products to general consumers. That's ********.
 
I'm fully aware that they don't package their own product, I work there. I can't just swap it out for a new one either because this was the last of the item they had in stock, our system says that our particular Best Buy not be receiving anymore of the product ever again, hence why I'm asking where else people have bought their product from as there isn't another retailer where I can get the cans for ~$220, or if I should just order them directly from the warehouse and force Best Buy to bring in new product.
 
Also, I didn't receive a discount on them. Best Buy marks the item up to $400, where as every other vendor I've seen sells it plainly for $220 - the same price as my discount.
 
Sorry if you misconstrued some of the information I posted.
 
Oct 31, 2012 at 1:54 PM Post #8,787 of 48,562
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I'm not mad because I got a defective product. I'm mad because Best Buy did not make a single effort to actually test returned product, and they try to sell it like new to the public. Of course it doesn't matter for me, I'm just going to return the paperweight and make sure they ship it back to the company - I could care less. What pisses me off is they try to sell **** that has been used, returned god knows how many times, as new products to general consumers. That's ********.
 
I'm fully aware that they don't package their own product, I work there. I can't just swap it out for a new one either because this was the last of the item they had in stock, our system says that our particular Best Buy not be receiving anymore of the product ever again, hence why I'm asking where else people have bought their product from as there isn't another retailer where I can get the cans for ~$220, or if I should just order them directly from the warehouse and force Best Buy to bring in new product.
 
Also, I didn't receive a discount on them. Best Buy marks the item up to $400, where as every other vendor I've seen sells it plainly for $220 - the same price as my discount.
 
Sorry if you misconstrued some of the information I posted.

 
This isn't the point of this thread, nor should it be.  If you want me to remove it, I will....With that said,  No retailer, including the one you work for, is legally allowed nor do they have a policy of selling opened products as new in box while operating within the shores of the United States.  This is obviously more of a employee training issue - where an individual did not follow the policy in place, as I know that Best Buy, like other US retailers, are required to verify the condition of all products during the return process in order to maintain their relationship with vendors, as well as the experience of the customer who may later purchase the open item.  These items are required to be labeled as such and if not, it's not because of some policy, but rather because an employee failed to do so.
 
I also know that your retailer has a system in place that will enable you to order a brand new in box from any where in the company.  It's just a matter of time - and I'm assuming that's the real issue here.  I also know your employers discount policy, and know you have no room to complain in terms of pricing.  As with all Americans, we are allowed to purchase from wherever we would like based on whichever variables we deem important, and that's something I suggest you take advantage of.   Your situation is not a reflection of your company's policy as a whole, but rather a localized situation that could occur to any company, large or small.  Training people to do their jobs properly is an issue ALL organizations face in this world.
 
Oct 31, 2012 at 2:52 PM Post #8,788 of 48,562
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5.1 Wired Mixamp
Input: TOS Link, COAX, R/L RCA, 3.5mm Input (MP3/AUX), USB (power only)
OUT: 3.5mm (PC)

7.1 Wired Mixamp (2011 Version)
Changes from Mixamp 5.1 (2009):
1. TOS link now "doorless" Ships with a plug to prevent dust/damage
2.USB can now output stereo, default output is through TOS if avaliable
3.Master/Mix knobs now flat instead of tapered/rounded

7.1 Wired Mixamp (2013 Version)
Changes from Mixamp 7.1 (2011)
Added EQ Fuction/Button on face of Mixamp
"Daisy Chaining" does not require red 3.5mm male to male "bar" adapter
"Live streaming integrates game sound with incoming/outgoing voice chat"
TOSlink changed to mini-optical (3.5mm optical), Removed RCA/COAX Inputs, additional 3.5mm "STREAM" port
 
Might want to add multiple users posted that the 2013 mixamp version has a steady hiss at high volumes. One that isn't present in the 2009 model for sure. I have never heard the 2011 version so I can't confirm or deny if it is present there as well.
 
-Erik
 
Oct 31, 2012 at 3:44 PM Post #8,789 of 48,562
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Might want to add multiple users posted that the 2013 mixamp version has a steady hiss at high volumes. One that isn't present in the 2009 model for sure. I have never heard the 2011 version so I can't confirm or deny if it is present there as well.
 
-Erik

 
how annoying is this hiss?  I was planning on getting the 2013 mixamp next month.  It's not as noticable as the steady hum that the 720+ decoder box has, right?
 
Oct 31, 2012 at 4:26 PM Post #8,790 of 48,562
Which amp is the best to pair up with the AD700's?  I was reading up on the reviews that are at the start of this thread and it looks like the Astro mixamp is the better of the amps but I can't find a place that sells it by itself (404 error on the Astro store).  Are there any amps that compare to the mixamp or are the Astros the best and should I just wait until they fix their webpage?
 

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