Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
Oct 3, 2012 at 10:50 PM Post #8,026 of 48,562
WTH, a new design again! What are the far left and right inputs for? Also, Stream? What?

And yes, looks like an EQ button added, and the power button moved...

You can easily get a mini toslink adapter. I prefer the mini optical jacks. The standard ones are prone to breaking (I broke the one on my soundbar and original Mixamp).

Hmm, I might have to put my Mixamp 5.8 up for sale, and get the new wired Mixamp out of sheer curosity, and the fact that I'm always tethered to USB anyways.
 
Oct 3, 2012 at 11:20 PM Post #8,027 of 48,562
Strange that astro has made no mention of the redesign on their twitter, homepage, or forums. The DSP button looks neat though. Those 2 jacks on the far left and right on the front would be for daisy chaining the mixamps for a lan setup.
 
Quick question burritoboy, did you buy this direct from astro?
 
Oct 3, 2012 at 11:59 PM Post #8,030 of 48,562
What do you mean? The DT770 Pro 80 have been on my list since I created it, lol.


I know that. I was commenting how you've updated again. Also I don't remember reading about the DT770 being bassy and position which as you put I find quite an odd conundrum. Here is amazing positioning! Now we drown it out with bass..... Reminds me something Dr. Strangelove would say.

[Strangelove admits that he investigated making such a machine]
Dr. Strangelove: Based on the findings of the report, my conclusion was that this idea was not a practical deterrent for reasons which at this moment must be all too obvious.
 
Oct 4, 2012 at 2:31 AM Post #8,032 of 48,562
I'm curious too about that new Mixamp. Will it still be able to do virtual surround if it only takes jack as input, and not optical anymore? :xf_eek:
 
EDIT: Oh, my bad, just realized it's a Mini-TOSLINK, not a Jack. Still, looks less nice in my opinion if you're not in pro gaming.
 
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I know that. I was commenting how you've updated again. Also I don't remember reading about the DT770 being bassy and position which as you put I find quite an odd conundrum. Here is amazing positioning! Now we drown it out with bass..... Reminds me something Dr. Strangelove would say.

 
I'm currently buying a DT770, but the 250ohm version. It's said to be a bit less bassy.
 
Oct 4, 2012 at 2:34 AM Post #8,033 of 48,562
Uhh, the new mini toslink jack is the same as the regular optical, all you have to do is get a toslink to mini toslink adapter. Seriously. I'd be surprised if it didn't come with one.

I completely forgot about daisy chaining. Useful for nobody. :D

Actually, I'd rather sell the Mixamp 5.8 and save up for a receiver. Might as well get one that converts DTS to DH, HDMI and all.
 
Oct 4, 2012 at 2:50 AM Post #8,034 of 48,562
All right, got that Philips CitiScape Uptown today. Burned it in for a few hours, fired up the Xbox and the SU-DH1, and...for gaming, I'm pretty let down.
 
For some reason, it has trouble making the positional cues stand out. The HTF600 doesn't have that problem, though it's semi-open instead of fully closed.
 
I might still use it as a portable headphone (particularly with my 3DS), or I might sell it. Too early for me to decide right now.
 
As for the new Mixamp, I'm not sure I like the changed ports from the Mixamp Pro revision we've known for the last few years. As it was, it would connect to just about anything that wasn't an HDMI source or a DTS source.
 
Oct 4, 2012 at 2:59 AM Post #8,035 of 48,562
So basically like the ES7 and M50 were for me. Fantastic music headphone, but not good for gaming.

How's ther tonal balance on the Uptowns? Bassy and sparkly, or bassy and smooth? Sure it's bassy, either way, lol. I like my sparkle though.
 
Oct 4, 2012 at 4:46 AM Post #8,036 of 48,562
About the new Mixamp, I asked the site where I'm buying mine. This is the new 2013 version, more info on this page in French: http://www.pure-gaming.fr/magasin/Produit/326/65/peripheriques/accessoires/astrogaming/mixamptop.html
 
To sum up: Smaller, lighter, new optical port, and an equalizer with 4 profiles and the possibility to create/download them on the astrogaming website.
 
 
I should be receiving this one. I guess it's ok since I only want to use it for Dolby, so I only need the optical in and nothing else.
 
burritoboy9984, can you confirm that you received a toslink -> mini-toslink converter?
 
Oct 4, 2012 at 5:03 AM Post #8,037 of 48,562
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So basically like the ES7 and M50 were for me. Fantastic music headphone, but not good for gaming.
How's the tonal balance on the Uptowns? Bassy and sparkly, or bassy and smooth? Sure it's bassy, either way, lol. I like my sparkle though.

 
Others say it's a slight V or U shaped FR. To my ears, it sounds reasonably balanced in that I don't find any area of the spectrum really overtaking the rest with the kind of music I listen to.
 
Bass is there, but it's not really pronounced like the HTF600, especially in the sub-bass region. It certainly doesn't detract from the mids.
 
As for smooth vs. sparkly treble, I haven't honed my audiophile sense enough to pick out one or the other yet, but one thing's for sure: no dynamic I've heard has sparkling, revealing clarity like a Stax Lambda (any of them), and the Uptown hasn't changed that. Has your experience with the HE-400 similarly spoiled you when it comes to traditional dynamic/moving-coil drivers?
 
I tried gaming with it some more, and the positional cues with DH are there if I listen for them. But they seem to get lost in the mix during a heated firefight unless you're paying attention, exactly the moment where you DON'T want to have issues with knowing where everything is coming from. The soundstage seems a bit oval-shaped, with front and rear being the short sides. Clearly, soundstage that's acceptable for general stereo music listening just doesn't cut it for gaming with any sort of binaural HRTF surround mix.
 
I've never heard an ES7 or M50, so I can't comment on those.
 
Oct 4, 2012 at 6:45 AM Post #8,038 of 48,562
Back on the mixamp again, found this page: http://worthplaying.com/article/2012/8/25/news/86886/

2 new infos on there:
- The particularity of this revision is that it features upgradeable firmware. Good thing.
- The "stream" input is apparently just the new name of "PC mic". I can't see how it could be different since there it no other "mic" port, and it would be extremely surprising if there were none :p
 
Oct 4, 2012 at 7:32 AM Post #8,039 of 48,562
What's surprising is that the article states earley 2013, but it's already been released. Anyways, the article is old, as it confuses the DSP button for the power button.

In short, it seems to be the wired headset-less equivalent of the A50.
 
Oct 4, 2012 at 9:08 AM Post #8,040 of 48,562
Yes, it comes with a mini toslink to toslink cable.

MLE, which recievers support DH out of the box? I currently have AXPRO's hooked up to the pre outs of a Denon 3310 and an HK 3600, but neither support DH as far as I can tell. I tried Dolby headphone several years ago (ax720's), and I wasn't very impressed. I'm much more impressed with the PC360's and Mixamp combo, but I couldn't quite determine directionality nearly as well as I can with the AXPRO's. Not sure if it's because I've been using 5.1 surround headphones forever, or not. Also, I only spent about 30 minutes comparing and contrasting the 2, perhaps when I have more play time with them (and I'm not hopped up on pain killers from my wisdom teeth), I'll warm up to them.

-Erik
 

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