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Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
Sep 30, 2012 at 10:13 PM Post #7,906 of 48,566
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eric_c said:
mrkingdomhearts: Depends. But you do realise that this entire thread is about gaming with headphones, on virtual surround, right?
 
It really does depend, though. Do you play 1st-person or 3rd-person games? Those are better with virtual surround. 
RTS and top-down RPGs, probably not so much.
 
And what headphones do you have? MixAmp isn't a powerful amp, so depending on the headphones you might still need to buy another amp.
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True lol, I just want to know if its worth the extra price.
 
I play a mix of most genres I don't really stick myself in just one type.
For what headphones I'm useing I got the HD558's comeing in the mail in a few days.
 
Sep 30, 2012 at 10:18 PM Post #7,907 of 48,566
The 558 will be fine with the Mixamp.

Go to the first page, and listen to that video with headphones. It will give you a rough idea of what to expect (with the times I mentioned).

The 558 should pair up well with the Mixamp and Dolby Headphone in general.
 
Sep 30, 2012 at 10:20 PM Post #7,908 of 48,566
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saladin said:
 
 
If the only factor put into consideration was simply sound quality for Gaming (most genres) and Music (many different genres), which would be best? Thank you. 
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I think you need to find out how the 2 headphones work with the music you listen to. Check the first post, brief descriptions of both headphones' sound signatures are there. Also, lots more threads on AD700 and CAL for music only.
 
 
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mrkingdomhearts said:
True lol, I just want to know if its worth the extra price.
 
I play a mix of most genres I don't really stick myself in just one type.
For what headphones I'm useing I got the HD558's comeing in the mail in a few days.
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Console, right? Purely single player, never chat? There are some alternatives to the MixAmp listed in the first post.
 
Sep 30, 2012 at 11:04 PM Post #7,909 of 48,566
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mad lust envy said:
Mixamp Pro (or any rough equivalent) is the FIRST thing you should be getting for console headphone gaming. Virtual surround adds a whole new layer of immersion, which trumps any audiophile amp that just does stereo.
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mrkingdomhearts said:
Ah sorry. I don't need chat, but I never listened to surround sound before (Always used stereo) is it worth it for immersing myself into games?
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Yes, for gaming virtual surround sound is a huge improvement over stereo for most people.
 
If you're pairing with the HD558s and are NOT going to be using voice chat, I'd recommend the Ear Force DSS v1.  You can get it cheap too.
 
The 50 ohm HD558s do a pretty good job of hiding any hiss, and the DSS has a good bass boost and can drive them fine.  It has the exact same surround processing as the mixamps.  (There is a DSS 2, but it has different processing that's probably not as good).
 
If you DO use voice chat, the mixamp is the way to go.
 
Sep 30, 2012 at 11:43 PM Post #7,911 of 48,566
Most likely paired with crappy headsets. The technology itself is fine. You use it with crap, you get crap.

Again, look at the video on the first post with headphones. The sound is pre-mixed with Dolby Headphone already. It will give you a rough idea of what to expect.
 
Sep 30, 2012 at 11:59 PM Post #7,912 of 48,566
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mrkingdomhearts said:
Are you sure the DSS is worth getting? I checked out a few reviews but I always hear that for surround sound it's pretty underwhelming.
Though it could be because they use the turtle beach headsets but I can't say for sure.
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Yes, I've owned both versions of the mixamp as well as the DSS.  They all use the same surround sound processing.  The main difference between them is the noise floor.
 
They will all sound underwhelming if you use them with crappy headphones, and nice if you use them with nice headphones. 
 
People who buy the DSS are more likely to use them with their Turtle Beach or other crappy headsets.  People who buy the mixamps are more likely to use them with Astros or nicer headphones.  So really, people are reviewing their own headphone's ability more than the tech itself.
 
If you handed every reviewer a $300 pair of headphones to review a mixamp or DSS with, they would all be quite pleased with both of them
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Oct 1, 2012 at 1:17 AM Post #7,913 of 48,566
Yea alot of times people don't realize that headphones makes the difference with both Dolby headphone and cmss3D headphone as they wonder why it doesn't sound right with their cheap headphones. When both are paired with a good pair of headphones, both tech will work really good.
 
Oct 1, 2012 at 3:17 AM Post #7,915 of 48,566
Really having a hard time choosing between DT990 Pro/250 ohms and the Q701's.
 
I'd be buying the Q701's used for around $200 or get the DT990 Pro for $170 new.
 
I'm using the X-Fi Titanium HD with CMSS-3D. I don't have an amp, but it's something I would probably pick up in the future (I know neither of these will be at their full potential without an amp).
 
I'm currently using a Sennheiser HD595 and I actually really like it, I'm just curious how much better headphones can get.
 
I'm looking for a huge soundstage for gaming and good for music as well. I'm not a bass-head but not opposed to it either.
 
Oh, and the other option is to possibly get a used DT 990 Premium/250 for $200. 
 
So the choices are: used Q701, brand new DT990 Pro, or used DT 990 Premium.
 
Any help would be appreciated! I really can't decide as they all look good to me. 
 
Oct 1, 2012 at 3:25 AM Post #7,916 of 48,566
The used DT990 would be my choice. They'd compliment the Senns nicely.
 
Oct 1, 2012 at 3:32 AM Post #7,917 of 48,566
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mad lust envy said:
The used DT990 would be my choice. They'd compliment the Senns nicely.
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Awesome, just out of curiosity, if it were between the DT990 Pro and the Q701, which would be your choice? And is there a huge difference between the DT990 Premiums vs the DT990 Pros?
 
Edit: Just found out that it's the 32 ohm edition of the DT990 Premiums. Would you still recommend the premiums in this case?
 
So my choices are now: 
 
1. AKG Q701 (Used)
2. DT990 Pro / 250 ohms (Brand New)
3. DT990 Premium / 32 ohms (Used)
 
Oct 1, 2012 at 3:54 AM Post #7,918 of 48,566
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chronix said:
So my choices are now: 
 
1. AKG Q701 (Used)
2. DT990 Pro / 250 ohms (Brand New)
3. DT990 Premium / 32 ohms (Used)
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It sort of depends on what type of sound you like and are looking for.  There isn't a "right" answer as to which is best, but maybe for which one you would like the best.
 
The DT990 premium is "V" shaped as in strong bass and treble.  The DT990 Pro has even stronger bass.  The Q701 is flatter and slightly warm.
 
I'm not trying to steer you away from the DT990s, but I personally prefer the Q701 over them (for reasons mentioned here > http://www.head-fi.org/t/592630/akg-q701-vs-dt990-600-ohm-comparison-review )
 
 
Could you list what types of music you listen to and what sound you like?
 
Oct 1, 2012 at 5:06 AM Post #7,920 of 48,566
I've noted the differences on the first post. Do people even look at my guide? Lol.

Id think the Q701 would be too much like the Senns. The DT990 is very different. I personally prefer the DT990 sound. I think the DT990 Pro has too much bass personally. The Premiums have better bass for me.
 
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