Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
Mar 6, 2012 at 12:18 PM Post #4,531 of 48,566
No, the game didn't have a release date delivery. I ASSUMED it did, but strangely, it didn't. It had the typical Prime shipping. :frown:

As for monitors, mine has fantastic viewing angles. HOWEVER, I've never seen a monitor with VERTICAL viewing angles that don't wash out when viewing from a lower than eye level spot. On mine, the washing out is minimal, but it still bothers me. I'm picky with my PQ.

 
Mar 6, 2012 at 12:42 PM Post #4,532 of 48,566
How could they not have release date delivery? What a strange move on their part.
 
Do you have a TN panel? Check out the viewing angles on my IPS monitor (HP ZR2740w... I've only had it a few weeks
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Mar 6, 2012 at 12:49 PM Post #4,533 of 48,566
I dunno...

http://www.amazon.com/Gateway-FHX2300-23-Inch-Widescreen-Display/dp/B0029E2A08/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331056003&sr=8-1

Have had it for about 2 years now (lol, Amazon states I bought it on march 8, 2010, so I'll be 100% correct in two days :D ). It's a glossy panel (I absolutely loathe matte displays), and has PQ very much like a Samsung glossy LCD/LED. The viewing angles are fantastic, but the top (if showing dark colors) does get dimmer if you view from a lower than eye level spot.

Still, my main display is a 65" Panasonic ST30 Plasma which I use for everything outside of web browsing. That baby has amazing PQ, no matter where I watch it from.
 
Mar 6, 2012 at 12:53 PM Post #4,534 of 48,566
160/160 is definitely a TN panel :p
 
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I dunno...
http://www.amazon.com/Gateway-FHX2300-23-Inch-Widescreen-Display/dp/B0029E2A08/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331056003&sr=8-1
Have had it for about 2 years now (lol, Amazon states I bought it on march 8, 2010, so I'll be 100% correct in two days
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). It's a glossy panel (I absolutely loathe matte displays), and has PQ very much like a Samsung glossy LCD/LED. The viewing angles are fantastic, but the top (if showing dark colors) does get dimmer if you view from a lower than eye level spot.
Still, my main display is a 65" Panasonic ST30 Plasma which I use for everything outside of web browsing. That baby has amazing PQ, no matter where I watch it from.



 
 
Mar 6, 2012 at 12:56 PM Post #4,535 of 48,566
Doesn't matter one bit to me. The display is rich and beautiful, and I come from owning nothing but high end Samsungs for the past 5 years, aside from my first venture into Plasma with the Panny ST30. The monitor still rivals the PQ on my Plasma, aside from night time viewing. I'm an avid PQ fan, and calibrate my displays for hours to DAYS. That Gateway monitor is beautiful.

I wouldn't spend money on an IPS panel, because my monitor use is secondary to my Plasma. Anything important to picture quality gets shown on the Plasma.
 
Mar 6, 2012 at 12:56 PM Post #4,536 of 48,566
Yeah, his monitor is a TN. As for that TV- I just looked it up, and plasmas have 178 degree viewing angles. Same as an IPS monitor. I'm so glad I bought one. I never knew things could look so good. 1440p is just icing on the cake after considering how good the colors are.
 
You game on a 65" screen? Jesus dude. haha
 
Oh wait- this is a sound thread. My bad.
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Mar 6, 2012 at 1:02 PM Post #4,537 of 48,566
As for resolution, I won't get anything over 1080p until stuff actually USE higher than 1080p resolution. We're barely at 720p for gaming, 1080i for television broadcasts, let alone 1080p. Text and web browsing look perfectly fine at 1080p, and Blu-Rays don't accept anything over 1080p anyways. All that extra res would be used just for documents and photos. Things that I don't hold much importance to. I'd rather not upscale anymore than 1080p.
 
Mar 6, 2012 at 1:09 PM Post #4,538 of 48,566
Well... PC gaming can fully utilize the 1440p. For Xbox gaming (since Xbox is purely 720p as far as I know) it just doubles the pixels up to fill the screen. It was weird when I had a 1200p monitor. Since there was no even multiple to scale things up to it all looked slightly stretched vertically. The colors looked like crap on that monitor anyway. Good riddance.
 
If I didn't play any PC games I would have bought a huge TV. Actually, we just put a 42" TV in the living room. It's no 65" plasma (it's actually just a boring 42" LED-LCD), but it'll do.
 
Mar 6, 2012 at 1:09 PM Post #4,539 of 48,566


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As for resolution, I won't get anything over 1080p until stuff actually USE higher than 1080p resolution. We're barely at 720p for gaming, 1080i for television broadcasts, let alone 1080p. Text and web browsing look perfectly fine at 1080p, and Blu-Rays don't accept anything over 1080p anyways. All that extra res would be used just for documents and photos. Things that I don't hold much importance to. I'd rather not upscale anymore than 1080p.



Little edit there. Consoles are the devices holding back gaming, since PCs have had higher than HD resolutions far before the current crop of consoles was launched and totally derailed the gaming scene.
 
1080p is good for its purpose, which is television. The moment it infected computers by replacing 1200p with 1080p as a standard, that's when things took a turn for the worse, as we no longer have computer aspect ratios as standard, instead having television aspect ratios that are pretty much unusable.
 
Mar 6, 2012 at 1:25 PM Post #4,540 of 48,566
I much prefer 16:9, than 16:10 or whatever PCs are using nowadays. Hell, I'd get an ultra wide-screen display if it was standardized. The wider, the better.

And my edit was just that, an edit to add how super high res isn't for anything other than PC related stuff, which is generally not stuff that the majority of gamers, movie, or TV show watchers are going to ever utilize.

Believe it or not, PC resolutions have no place for anything OTHER than PC, whereas a resolution like 16:9/1080p has a broader and longer lasting appeal.

Consoles won't be going over 1080p for a good while, nor will TV or movies. Nor should they. In real applications, NO ONE outside of PC users will gain anything from going higher than 1080p from a non PC seating distance unless you own a massive display (talking about front projector size) and like to sit uncomfortably close. The benefits of 1080p are barely seen by most people as they sit too far away, in 720p discernable distances anyways. Most people think they're gaining any benefit from a 55" 1080p display from 9 feet away. Lol. They aren't. That's 720p territory. I have a 65" that I sit about 7-8 feet from. Any further, and I start losing the benefit of 1080p, any closer, and I may as well stick my nose up to the screen. 1440p and higher is just overkill, and just bragging rights unless you own a fornt projector. Try watching a 65" from 6 feet. It's ridiculious. And yeah, that's 1440p territory.
 
Mar 6, 2012 at 1:25 PM Post #4,541 of 48,566
Consoles are not holding back gaming. Heavy production costs are the main problem and since the audience on consoles is bigger it's where the money is made primarily and where the costs can be covered up best. All games sell better on consoles.
 
PC Gaming can't afford AAA by itself alone. Thank the consoles that you can enjoy ports (like Alan Wake, ME3 etc.) in 1080p and beyond aka better quality gaming. I have a pretty good rig myself and heavily favor PC over consoles but I can't hear about this nonsense anymore and people should start to accept the bitter truth and stop spreading this.
 
to stay at the topic: How does the HE-4 compare with the K701/DT880 for gaming? I can get a pair for 300.
 
Mar 6, 2012 at 1:29 PM Post #4,542 of 48,566
Consoles are not holding back gaming. Heavy production costs are the main problem and since the audience on consoles is bigger it's where the money is made primarily and where the costs can be covered up best. All games sell better on consoles.
 
PC Gaming can't afford AAA by itself alone. Thank the consoles that you can enjoy ports (like Alan Wake, ME3 etc.) in 1080p and beyond aka better quality gaming. I have a pretty good rig myself and heavily favor PC over consoles but I can't hear about this nonsense anymore and people should start to accept the bitter truth and stop spreading this.
 
to stay at the topic: How does the HE-4 compare with the K701/DT880 for gaming? I can get a pair for 300.


The HE-4 is like a DT880/DT990 hybrid, with a smaller soundstage, better overall SQ, and much higher amp requirements. If you have a very powerful amp, the HE4 for $300 won't be touched by anything, assuming you can handle sparkly treble.
 
Mar 6, 2012 at 1:32 PM Post #4,543 of 48,566
And lol, "INFECTED". That's hilarious. Sounds like a PC fanboy. If you weren't aware, this is a CONSOLE oriented gaming thread, not a PC gaming thread (which is linked on the first page). Go back to bragging how you can play games 1200p with your $2500 computer setup. I'd gladly take 720p playing on my couch with a controller, over sitting in front of a monitor with an overpriced setup just to enjoy gaming.
 
Mar 6, 2012 at 1:34 PM Post #4,544 of 48,566
The DT880 supposedly has a smaller soundstage than the K701 alraeady so this is even tinier? :O

Right now I don't have any amp at all except the one on the Essence STX http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tpa6120a2.pdf
 
 
 
Mar 6, 2012 at 1:36 PM Post #4,545 of 48,566
The DT880 supposedly has a lower soundstage than the K701 alraeady so this is even tinier? :O

Right now I don't have any amp at all except the one on the Essence STX http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tpa6120a2.pdf
 
 


The HE-4 is on par with the DT880 in terms of soundstage, just maybe a little smaller, but still bigger than any closed headphone you'd get, including the D7000. The STX won't drive the HE-4 well. You will want at least something like the NFB 12.1 as the CHEAPEST option with lots of power.
 

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