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Do you by any chance know the quality difference I'd hear using the M-Stage over the FiiO E10?

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M-stage is far more powerful.  I will have an M-stage here sometime next week to compare, but the M-stage should have larger soundstage and more detailed/clearer/open sound. 
 
The E10 doesn't have the biggest soundstage (when running 701s), but it is nice and smooth sounding.  Most people seem to think the K701 is too bright (my Q701 isn't too bright IMO), so the E10 could pair well and smooth the K701 a bit. 
 
E10 + E9 sounded brighter, more clear and open, and bigger soundstage than E10 alone.  But E10 alone is a pretty good improvement over a soundcard.

Hi everyone, after three months of asking and lurking around I finally have decided to order the beyerdynamic dt 770 pro 80 Ohm version and the Turtle Beach dss 7.1. I still don't feel so sure, from what I see a lot of people complain about the beyers being too bass heavy whereas other people say the bass if very present but well controlled and, concerning the dss, a lot of people seem unsatisfied (I decided to go with this one rather than with the mixamp only beacause i don't need voice chat and apparently, as far as audio quality goes, they are equal). 
Anyway I ordered them both and I am waiting for their arrival, hoping i have made a good decision (please tell me i have T___T). I am now wondering if that setup (connected to a xbox 360/macbook pro) would benefit from being hooked up to an amp. What do you think? Please bear in mind that I would like to remain in the sub-60dollars zone for this new purchase. 
Thanks again, Nicola

The DT770 Pro 80 is definitely bassy heavy, and can be downright flabby at times and drown out finer details. However, if you're looking for some movie theater like fun, the DT770 Pro 80 is just that. What they do, they do well. They aren't a particular fave of mine overall, but I'm considering repurchasing them as my fun full sized headphone, because they have the right combination of fun and comfort, and lend themselves well for the genres of music I listen to.

They would definitely benefit from amping, but they will be enoyable out of just the DSS.

Thanks for the quick reply yes, I was definitely looking for a movie theater like experience! As I said I'm not interested in the greatest accuracy for fps and for online competitive gaming, I'm just interested in an immersive experience for games/movies. Following your suggestion, I guess i'll just enjoy them unamped in the first period and then, if I realize I need something more, I'll come back here and ask for advice!

To me, they aren't as power hungry as they seem (I actually find the 32ohm Premium Beyers more reliant on amping). The DSS should be fine for now. Something as cheap as an E10 (or even better an E9) would further push them more, though you'd be double amping through the DSS, which is a hissy amp already.

I'm sure you will love the DT770 Pro 80. I did. I eventually found better, but they still stand as one of the best for immersion and the movie theater experience.

Anyone by chance seen any price on the MMX 300 under $350?  Retailers seem to be pretty consistent at that price point.  Keeping watch around and also eying the for sale/trade section, but still need another 7 or so days till I can post a WTB there.  I'd go with the 770 and attached mic option, but it would always bug me not knowing for sure if it sounded as good and performed as well as the 300, and I would eventually break down and get the 300 anyway.

I realize that had I kept the Schiit Lyr, I would have easily repurchased the HE4. It had more things going for it than the D7000.

1. Open ear
2. Velour pads (I really try to avoid leather/pleather if at all possible)
3. Bright and aggressive sound signature
4. Very quick but powerful bass, more audiophile-esque compared to D7000
5. Most important.... super comfortable. As much as people rave about the Denon D2/5/7K comfort, I don't find them THAT comfy. They hurt my neck, the head padding isn't much padding at all, and the pads got hot and sticky way too quickly. It makes me realize that getting the D7000 isn't in my best interest now.

The only problem with them is how ridiculously hard to drive they are. They sound good off the E9, but yes, the E9 is very much struggling with the ortho, and it clearly shows. Paired up with the Lyr, the HE4 was heavenly.

I do personally prefer the D7000, but I honestly felt the HE4 was of a higher quality sound overall.

Damn it. I wish I hadn't sold my stuff. ARGH. If the HE4 and EF5 combo was as cheap as last year, I'd go that route, maybe.

The HE-300 sounded almost absolutely ideal for me, until I read that it was a warm, smooth, and laid back headphone. That's the same thing that describes tthe ESW9 (which I absolutely hated), and the HD650 (which I haven't heard, nor would I want to).

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Anyone by chance seen any price on the MMX 300 under $350?  Retailers seem to be pretty consistent at that price point.  Keeping watch around and also eying the for sale/trade section, but still need another 7 or so days till I can post a WTB there.  I'd go with the 770 and attached mic option, but it would always bug me not knowing for sure if it sounded as good and performed as well as the 300, and I would eventually break down and get the 300 anyway.

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It stays at the price consistently.  The only chance at getting it lower is finding refurbished ones for sale, but that is very rare.  And they don't pop up on the FS forum very often either.  I'd start looking at Dt770 premiums (MMX 300 is probably the premium 32 or 250).

generally, game sound effects from the engine are not eq'ed to fletcher-munson?
 
so the ideal eq for a headphone would be to tune flat depending on the game engine/settings? if that were so, i wonder if that would be the ideal input into DH.. . guess it depends on preference/what you want emphasized eq-wise.

So after careful consideration, I took the plunge and ordered a pair of DT990 Pros. Having owned a Premium set of DT990s, I find that this would be the most logical choice for me and my needs. The Pro models have a better fit and stronger clamp, which is to my preference. Also based on friend's comments, it has a touch more bass than the premiums, and more mids, and less highs. That sounds like a winner, considering the DT990 could use less highs and more mids. I expect a slight reduction in soundstage compared to the Premiums, but still quite large.

Time will tell. These are gonna be my babies, so unless something is horribly wrong, expect a full write up on these for this thread. This is for music, movies, gaming. We shall see. I get them Tuesaday.

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Time will tell. These are gonna be my babies, so unless something is horribly wrong, expect a full write up on these for this thread. This is for music, movies, gaming. We shall see. I get them Tuesaday.

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Looking forward your review. I loved DT990/600 for music/movies/gaming
 

Hey, so i figured i could get a little advice from you, or something, but kinda like you, my astros a40s recently broke. The right ear would not produce any sound also. So now im stuck playing ps3 with a useless headset and a working astro mixamp. Um im just trying to find a new headset that'll work with the mixamp and not spend a whole lot of money. haha isnt everybody? xD Anyway, im not a real competive gamer, but would like to have decent sound quality but keeping some playfulness still in the headset so i can listen to music on the go. I was thinking of the SteelSeries Siberia V2, and i did read about how you did not own or try them, but any help would be...well helpful. Thanks!

Sold my AD700s to a mate for £60, sad to see them go but I believe the Senn PC360 will do me well enough, until I read MLE's review of the DT990s...
 
I also bought 'Sennheiser X2 Gaming Headset for XBox 360' (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005JVKAWS) for £17, it's like £5 more than the official xbox 360 headset, and like 75x better. Get it if you need a standard mic for when you aren't using your headphones etc.
 
Also, HOW DO ALL OF YOU AFFORD ALL OF THIS!? I'm a student atm so it hurts even looking at some of this stuff haha... I need a proper job soon!

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Hey, so i figured i could get a little advice from you, or something, but kinda like you, my astros a40s recently broke. The right ear would not produce any sound also. So now im stuck playing ps3 with a useless headset and a working astro mixamp. Um im just trying to find a new headset that'll work with the mixamp and not spend a whole lot of money. haha isnt everybody? xD Anyway, im not a real competive gamer, but would like to have decent sound quality but keeping some playfulness still in the headset so i can listen to music on the go. I was thinking of the SteelSeries Siberia V2, and i did read about how you did not own or try them, but any help would be...well helpful. Thanks!

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Need a a headset, not a headphone, right? Honestly, all the headsets I've tried are so lackluster.... the only one I can recommend is the PC360, and if you need to save cash, the AX720 (which is comparable to the A40s), but the AX720 brings it's own amp, so I dunno if it's just overkill.

If you need a good headset for GAMING only, get the PC360 and be happy.
 
I just sold my K702 and DT990/600. It was a pain needing an E9 in addition to everything to just be able to chat or play single mode (I used the E9 too at work).
 
Easy to drive cans are the way to go, unless you don't move your gear.
 
No chat? headphones. Chat? headset
 
The mic-clipon was also a pain heh