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Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
Nov 26, 2011 at 4:25 AM Post #2,416 of 48,566


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carefullistener said:
so what does it mean then? more ohms = ?????
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The lower the Ohms the louder it get at a set volume.
The higher the Ohms, the less loud it gets at that same set volume.
 
So the less Ohms, the less you need to turn up the volume knob to get it louder.
Per Eric C, I'm only referring to headphones.
 
 
 
Nov 26, 2011 at 4:36 AM Post #2,417 of 48,566
If you want the full answer, it's going to be long, and it's too complex for me to understand well enough to explain to you. I'm afraid you'll have to read up elsewhere to get that.
 
Also note that Purple Angel's explanation is usually correct for headphones only. There are high end speakers with very low impedance (e.g. <10 ohms) that need very powerful amps.
 
I think all you really want to know is which headphones and which sound card to get, right? So how about just getting the same setup as the more knowledgeable PC gamers around here, e.g. Mad Lust Envy's setup?
 
Nov 26, 2011 at 4:48 AM Post #2,418 of 48,566
Well, I'd like to add one headphone that does NOT make the wanted list for headphones good with dolby surround sound decoders, and thats the Fischer Audio FA-011. 
 
These have an absolutely immense soundstage, which is what led me to thinking they might be good for gaming, but to my surprise, that was NOT the case. 
 
It was like they were a different headphone with dolby digital....
 
in case anyones wondering, im using the tritton ax720 decoder box, which is rumored to have more power than the astro mixamp
 
however, in stereo they are SO amazing, they may as well be surround sound in stereo because the soundstage is phenominal with these, the bass is strong and punchy, and the highs are airy without being sibilant!
 
Perfect gaming headphone = no
Perfect audiophile headphone = yes
 
Nov 26, 2011 at 7:51 AM Post #2,419 of 48,566
I would go with the Denon 2k's.
 
Nov 26, 2011 at 11:15 AM Post #2,420 of 48,566
The thing to keep in mind with impedance is the sensitivity of the headphones. Example: HE-6. Low ohms, but also low impedance. It needs a lot of juice.
 
Nov 28, 2011 at 10:44 AM Post #2,423 of 48,566
Quick question:
The Senn 360 is open back correct?  How bad is the sound leakage?  My wife is already somewhat irritated at the various clicking of keys and mouse a room over while she is trying to sleep (much more so at the occasional frantic voice command), I really don't need to irritate her further by having her listen to assorted rumbles and explosions (love my World of Tanks).
 
I'm currently using the steelseries siberia v2 and constantly listening to music while playing.  It does the job, but I know there is considerably better to be had.  I was looking at the asus xonar and senn 350 set and considering getting it, but after reading it sounds like the 360 is that much better so I may be grabbing the sound card and headset piecemeal.  I'm just worried about the open back vs. closed of the 350 or siberia.
 
Thanks.
 
Nov 28, 2011 at 11:51 AM Post #2,424 of 48,566
If your wife gets angry at you because of clicks, forget about open headphones.
 
I have both K702 and LCD-2 and they leak a LOT. I guess PC360 is the same.
 
Just get a nice closed headphone. Even if soundstage won't be as good, you will isolate better. (Is more important to save your marriage than to get a better 3D)
 
Nov 28, 2011 at 1:35 PM Post #2,425 of 48,566
PC360's leak quite a bit   
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Nov 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM Post #2,426 of 48,566


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triggerfish said:
Quick question:
The Senn 360 is open back correct?  How bad is the sound leakage?  My wife is already somewhat irritated at the various clicking of keys and mouse a room over while she is trying to sleep (much more so at the occasional frantic voice command), I really don't need to irritate her further by having her listen to assorted rumbles and explosions (love my World of Tanks).
I'm currently using the steelseries siberia v2 and constantly listening to music while playing.  It does the job, but I know there is considerably better to be had.  I was looking at the asus xonar and senn 350 set and considering getting it, but after reading it sounds like the 360 is that much better so I may be grabbing the sound card and headset piecemeal.  I'm just worried about the open back vs. closed of the 350 or siberia.
Thanks.
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The Senn PC350 and PC360 are open headphones (they do have a cloth covered grill).
 
 
Nov 28, 2011 at 3:23 PM Post #2,427 of 48,566
I don't understand, positional queues are great without DH, that doesn't mean they aren't great gaming headphones.  Some people, such as myself, can't stand DH and headphones like the FA011's perform phenominally in stereo.  Even one of the most regarded headphones (AD700) work best with DH turned off IMO.
 
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vonx said:
Well, I'd like to add one headphone that does NOT make the wanted list for headphones good with dolby surround sound decoders, and thats the Fischer Audio FA-011. 
 
These have an absolutely immense soundstage, which is what led me to thinking they might be good for gaming, but to my surprise, that was NOT the case. 
 
It was like they were a different headphone with dolby digital....
 
in case anyones wondering, im using the tritton ax720 decoder box, which is rumored to have more power than the astro mixamp
 
however, in stereo they are SO amazing, they may as well be surround sound in stereo because the soundstage is phenominal with these, the bass is strong and punchy, and the highs are airy without being sibilant!
 
Perfect gaming headphone = no
Perfect audiophile headphone = yes
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Nov 28, 2011 at 6:57 PM Post #2,428 of 48,566
Thanks for the replies all.
 
So with the Senns being out due to open back what would you suggest?  Looking for closed back, long session comfort (excellent at the moment with my siberia v2), and decent music and game performance.  Really looking to hear the rumble and guns of the tanks while listening to a wide variety of music, and occasionally jumping over to Battlefield 3 and listening for that helicopter position overhead.
 
Nov 28, 2011 at 7:42 PM Post #2,429 of 48,566


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triggerfish said:
Thanks for the replies all.
 
So with the Senns being out due to open back what would you suggest?  Looking for closed back, long session comfort (excellent at the moment with my siberia v2), and decent music and game performance.  Really looking to hear the rumble and guns of the tanks while listening to a wide variety of music, and occasionally jumping over to Battlefield 3 and listening for that helicopter position overhead.
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I'd say the Denon D2k's fit your requirements nicely.
 
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