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First time I been linked to some conspiracy, lol. Yes, I am employed by 30 different headphone manufactures, and get paid to push their products. rolleyes.gif


Never forget.  No good deed goes unpunished.

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Shoot, I'd be HAPPY to get paid to push products, but I sure as hell wouldn't push a crappy product. If Sennheiser has employed me, wouldn't they be mad that I push Beyer, Denon, Audio-Technica, Hifiman, etc? biggrin.gif

If Astro paid me, I'm sure they be mad at bashing the A40's, and recommending the Tritton AX720...

I could do this all day. XD
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I haven't been accused of being a shill yet but its only a matter of time...

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Wait what? Lol. I'm just a 28 year old Security Officer with too much free time, now that I'm single again. I'm just passionate about headphone gaming, striving to find something that works well for all purposes.

First time I been linked to some conspiracy, lol. Yes, I am employed by 30 different headphone manufactures, and get paid to push their products. rolleyes.gif

Alg, the 5.8 hisses with or without an amp attached. As long as you're aware of that, you shouldn't have anything else sounding out of place. I dunno what issue you're having, but having an amp attached to my 5.8 serves as nothing but a necessary power boost for hard to drive cans, that's it. I already said as such. I DID have the wired Mixamp which I sold in favor of the 5.8.

Sorry its not working out for you, but you can hop over to AVSForum's Xbox section and see that it works for them as it did for me.

I don't think it's hiss, rather it totally screws with the sound. Background noise is made super loud, positioning is all over the place, and more. The hiss did not change IIRC.
 

Also the Beats Pro are the best gaming headphones ever, please go buy them so I can feed my family.


Edited by Alghazanth - 6/17/11 at 8:49pm
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Ahahaha. I dunno what to tell you, man. Perhaps you're more sensitive to the subtle changes that the amp brings to the Mixamp's sound. However, I dunno how the positioning and all that could be affected. It certainly isn't for me. I guess you're outta luck. I wouldn't waste cash on the wired Mixamp in hopes of this working.

Again, I'm gaming on consoles. It may affect PC gaming in a different way. I never game on PC, so I can't say.
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Not sure how the 5.8 MixAmp differs from the original model, but I have no issues in double amping the MixAmp signal through my Audio-GD Fun. I just set the master volume (big dial) on the MixAmp to max and leave the Game/Voice balance at the default 12 o'clock position, with overall volume ultimately adjusted on the Fun. Nice clean signal without distortion.

 

Also, Sennheiser would be the last company I'd accuse MLE of shilling for. That would be reserved for FiiO. wink_face.gif

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Hell's yeah. smily_headphones1.gif

But seriously, didn't know being happy with a company's products = working for them. Fiio owes me big time! biggrin.gif
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Hmm, I'll try it later with it set in the middle rather than on game all the way. Also, the change was about as subtle as a nuke.

 

Also, MLE I'm curious about your opinion of the HE-4 for SP gaming vs the D7000. I'm in a position right now where I prefer the HE500 to every can I have for music (cept LCD2 but its special) but the T1 is only like 3-5% worse for music in comparison, and is better for gaming, at least straight into the mixamp. It's also very heavy, which is a sacrifice I can make for something as nuanced as music, but not for long gaming sessions (and pretty much any time I sit down for some gaming, it doesn't end fast). As such if I don't keep the T1 around I'd have to buy a D7K or something for SP, and that won't happen (cup just fell off of my ebay one, so I'm done buying non-authorized and that means $1000... D7K isn't worth near that I've discovered, esp just for gaming). I also just don't see how orthos can work like a dynamic for gaming, as the design is just too different.  tested all the cans in my profile yesterday with 3 games and ended up preferring the T1/HD800/D7K to everything, especially the orthos.

 

Would you mind doing a quick review of the HE-4 in your usual format?

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I already mentioned it before. The HE4 for gaming and everything else in general is like a cross between the DT880 and DT990. From it's infectious but not overwhelming bass (and its most similar to the DT990 in this from what I have experienced, just a little less presence, but more than the 880), as well as treble quantity like the DT880. Quality of treble, mids, and bass exceed both those cans (bass is pretty close in quality), but they sound similar quantity wise.

They won't beat the D7000 in terms of sub bass, but they certainly punch harder, and have an airier sound. They don't have a warm signature (unlike the D7000), but are bright just like the Beyers (again). Soundstage reminds me of the DT880 the most, though they have better depth. Positioning is great, but not amazing, just like the DT880 but better at picking up rear audio cues in Dolby Headphone.

I'm pretty sure they will sound most similar to the T1, but inferior... of course. But for $450, they are just absolutely amazing.

Their biggest problem is how ridiculously hard they are to drive. Don't even THINK of plugging them into just the Mixamp, because they'll reward you with absolute disinterest in letting you hear anything remotely pleasureable. The E9 certainly brings the volume up to piercing levels, but they will be missing quite a bit of the dynamics and fullbodiedness that the Lyr gave them. I utterly regret selling my Lyr. If I hadn't sold it, I would NOT give these up. The E9 does give them more sub bass presence over the Lyr, due to it not controlling it as well, but still a quality bass, not sloppy.

Believe me, they sound great off the E9, but next to the Lyr, I would say I'm getting 65% of their performance. The E9 definitely wasn't meant to drive these orthos.

I can't give them a review in my usual format, because I don't have an amp capable of bringing the HE4 to proper levels. When I had my Lyr, I didn't analyze the HE4 for gaming enough to give proper scores. I can now just with the E9, and they certainly do perform well (just as well as the DT880 at LEAST, but definitely better even underdriven...), so take that as you will.

The HE4 does distort at times through the E9 when I listen to SOME bass heavy tracks. Its very few, but its usually the same dubstep tracks that I can recreate the issue. Some other bass heavy dubstep tracks don't distort at all, so its certainly odd.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/18/11 at 1:27am
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Is the cable you use to connect the E9 line out to the 5.8's headphone port just a standard 3.5mm to 3.5mm? Nothing else?

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That's it. I'm pretty sure its the long 3.5mm male/male that came with my WIRED 1st gen Mixamp. The plugs have a gray stripe on it. I don't think the 5.8 comes with one like this. In any case, it shouldn't matter as long as the cable isn't utter crap. I have a feeling ios just not gonna work out for you, possibly because PC gaming and its sound options aren't like the basic Dolby Digital signal from console gaming.
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That's it. I'm pretty sure its the long 3.5mm male/male that came with my WIRED 1st gen Mixamp. The plugs have a gray stripe on it. I don't think the 5.8 comes with one like this. In any case, it shouldn't matter as long as the cable isn't utter crap. I have a feeling ios just not gonna work out for you, possibly because PC gaming and its sound options aren't like the basic Dolby Digital signal from console gaming.

Lol, I've said like 5 times in this thread I'm only console gaming confused_face%281%29.gif

 

Btw, if you got to pick one can for competitive gaming and one can for SP gaming, any price, and you didn't need a mic, would it be K701 and D7000? Something else?


Edited by Alghazanth - 6/18/11 at 3:15am
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I thought you were a PC gamer. Oh lulz.

K701 for MP, D7000 for SP going off sound alone, no mic, or amping restrictions.

Realistically in my situation, I'd choose the HD598 over the K701 so as to not have to attach an amp after the Mixamp. K701 is still better, but HD598 comes close for the same needs.

If it was one headset does all, its the PC360, bass expander on for SP, off for MP.

I think you've asked me this multiple times, lol.
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I thought you were a PC gamer. Oh lulz.

K701 for MP, D7000 for SP going off sound alone, no mic, or amping restrictions.

Realistically in my situation, I'd choose the HD598 over the K701 so as to not have to attach an amp after the Mixamp. K701 is still better, but HD598 comes close for the same needs.

If it was one headset does all, its the PC360, bass expander on for SP, off for MP.

I think you've asked me this multiple times, lol.


I'm an Omni-gamer, check the profile wink.gif But I haven't done any serious PC gaming in half a year.

 

Didn't you say the K701 is perfect through just the mixamp unless a mic is needed? And isn't the AD700 closer to the K701 than the HD598? You gave it a 10 versus the 598's 9.5.

 

I have, yea. The thing is because my final music cans will probably be the LCD2+HE500 instead of the T1, I'm going to need new cans for gaming again. However if by some miracle the recabled T1 I'm gonna try manages to be as good as the HE500, I'll be set.

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I thought you didn't like the LCD2? What changed?

I gave the AD700 a higher MP score due to the extreme accuracy it has in positioning. Only the DT770 Pro 80 matches it, but due to its muddy sound, it obviously doesn't work as well.

Again my scores aren't meant to be directly compared. They're there as a reference as to how I felt they performed for me, and not how they performed against one another. The HD598 is a better overall headphone than the AD700.

As amazing as the K701 is just off the Mixamp for gaming, its hard to tell people to buy it just for gaming purposes. They deserve an amp for every other purpose. The HD598 comes close and has an easier time unamped.
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