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Jun 19, 2014 at 2:31 PM Post #24,181 of 48,566
grumpy1471 said:
Welcome to Head-Fi!
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Before I bought my K712s, I was in the same situation as you. I had only my Astro setup (A40s and Mixamp) and was looking for a serious upgrade. I ended up getting the K712s, a SoundBlaster Omni for my PC gaming and music needs and a Schiit Vali to power the cans.

An amp will make a huge difference when you're using the Astro Mixamp. For me, the Mixamp alonr was too quiet, made the highs harsh and sibilant and just didn't make the headphones sound pleasing. When I added the Vali into the chain, the amp corrected all of those issues.

As for potential PC gaming, the Omni is an awesome device and you may want to consider it. It seems to work decently well with the K712s without a dedicated amp but for me, harsh highs are still a slight issue.

Stillhart will be able to explain further and back me up here. He was one of the people here who helped me with my purchases.

tl;dr Get an amp for the K712. The Vali pairs really well with the AKG K/Q7xx line from what I've heard and experienced.

Edit: I missed the part where you said they'd be for portable use. As Murder Mike said, they're open so they won't work well in a noisy place and may disturb those around you as they will hear what is playing through the headphones. Open headphones won't be a good choice for portables. The K712s are also big cans and not portable.

I personally use a set of Vsonic GR07 Bass Editions for portable use. They cost me $150 and are actually pretty amazing for the price IMO.
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Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.
 
This thread and guide are AWESOME btw. Thank you so much MLE and everyone that continues to contribute.
 
Jun 19, 2014 at 2:32 PM Post #24,182 of 48,566
mista freeze 74 said:
  I'm so sorry if this has already been covered in the thread. I'm normally the guy that sits and reads EVERY page before asking my question, but I couldn't make it through all 1612 pages. I went through a few, but didn't find my answer. Here's my situation. I want the K712 Pro and the mixamp 2013 from Astro. I will be using this setup to play games on X-Box One, X-Box 360, PS4, PS3, and maybe PC (depending on what happens with my current Plantronics headset). I would also like to use the 712s for music at home and on the go (vacation/airplane). My question is, what will I need in addition to the K712s and Astro Mixamp to make all of this work? Do I need an extra headphone amp for this setup as detailed on the first page? Sorry guys, this is my first big headphone purchase and I just want to make sure I do it right and get the most out of them. Thanks in advance.
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Most of this has been covered by others, but I'll just throw in my $0.02.
 
1 - For PC gaming, don't use the Mixamp.  Get a cheap sound card like a SB Omni or SBZ or that Asus that people like.  You might not even be able to use the Mixamp without a soundcard, depending on what's in there right now.
 
2 - For music at home, an amp is going to help these a LOT.  For gaming, an amp is going to help as well.  Given that, I'd say you really want to budget for an amp.  If you want to move it back and forth between rooms and consoles and PC, get a portable like the E12 or a C5 or something.  Otherwise, I've read that desktop amps generally give you more bang for the buck.
 
3 - I definitely would not recommend the K712 for a portable, especially on a plane.  They're not particularly rugged, and they leak a lot of sound in both directions.  You might want to consider a closed headphone for travel, like the Momentum On-ear or the SoundMAGIC HP100 or the like.
 
Jun 19, 2014 at 2:47 PM Post #24,185 of 48,566
martin vegas said:
  Outlast is on xbox one from today..i wish dead rising 3 would come to ps4!
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I have Outlast on PC and PS4 but I haven't played past the beginning lol. Dead Rising 3 is supposed to be coming out for the PC but it's capped at 30fps so that the console version will stand it's ground. Needless to say, PC gamers (myself included) are more than slightly unhappy with DR3.
 
Jun 19, 2014 at 2:52 PM Post #24,186 of 48,566
grumpy1471 said:
  I have Outlast on PC and PS4 but I haven't played past the beginning lol. Dead Rising 3 is supposed to be coming out for the PC but it's capped at 30fps so that the console version will stand it's ground. Needless to say, PC gamers (myself included) are more than slightly unhappy with DR3.
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On the plus side, it's on sale today for the first day of the Steam Summer Sale.  That should ease the pain a little...
 
Jun 19, 2014 at 2:54 PM Post #24,187 of 48,566
grumpy1471 said:
  I have Outlast on PC and PS4 but I haven't played past the beginning lol. Dead Rising 3 is supposed to be coming out for the PC but it's capped at 30fps so that the console version will stand it's ground. Needless to say, PC gamers (myself included) are more than slightly unhappy with DR3.
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Capcom said you could unlock the cap yourself if you wanted, they just can't guarantee what's going to happen with certain things if you do. Capcom usually has some decent ports, so this is a bit surprising. 
 
Jun 19, 2014 at 2:57 PM Post #24,188 of 48,566
stillhart said:
  On the plus side, it's on sale today for the first day of the Steam Summer Sale.  That should ease the pain a little...
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I'm still going to wait until I get an Xbox One or until it's really cheap on PC to buy it. I'm not really a fan of the Dead Rising games so I won't pay more than I need to for them. They never appealed to me for some reason. The only game I've bought so far from the summer sale is Hotline Miami. Never played it before today and I'm loving the soundtrack. 
 
 
murder mike said:
   
Capcom said you could unlock the cap yourself if you wanted, they just can't guarantee what's going to happen with certain things if you do. Capcom usually has some decent ports, so this is a bit surprising. 
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It could be like Need for Speed Rivals. 60fps would make it speed up a ton and make it almost unplayable. Capcom says that it's because of the engine but I blame Microsoft for this 
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Jun 19, 2014 at 3:01 PM Post #24,189 of 48,566
murder mike said:
   
/shrug, to each their own. Also, an airplane is quite a bit louder than a bus/train as far as noise level goes, especially if you end up right next to the engine. 
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Yeah, not on a plane lol. That's marginally louder 
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Only closed or IEMs there.
 
Jun 19, 2014 at 3:05 PM Post #24,190 of 48,566
grumpy1471 said:
  It could be like Need for Speed Rivals. 60fps would make it speed up a ton and make it almost unplayable. Capcom says that it's because of the engine but I blame Microsoft for this 
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Dark Souls worked just fine at 60 FPS IIRC. So who knows? And you could be right, it probably is Microsoft's fault. I was hoping we would see more proper ports of "next gen" console games, but so far it's not off to a good start. 
 
Jun 19, 2014 at 3:08 PM Post #24,191 of 48,566
grumpy1471 said:
  I'm still going to wait until I get an Xbox One or until it's really cheap on PC to buy it. I'm not really a fan of the Dead Rising games so I won't pay more than I need to for them. They never appealed to me for some reason. The only game I've bought so far from the summer sale is Hotline Miami. Never played it before today and I'm loving the soundtrack. 
 
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You don't need to pay anything for it.  If you're not a fan, don't buy it.  Problem solved.  :p  
 
I've come to the conclusion that we live in a golden age of video games right now.  There are SO many good games to play and just not enough time.  If something isn't like AMAZING, I'm just not going to get to it.  I'm probably not going to buy very much at this Summer Sale.
 
Seriously though, the last few weeks, the only games I've played are Hearthstone and SC2 Squadron Tower Defense.  Both of those are free.  lol
 
EDIT - Too many "seriously"s.
 
Jun 19, 2014 at 4:57 PM Post #24,193 of 48,566
Jun 19, 2014 at 5:21 PM Post #24,195 of 48,566
stillhart said:
About what I was expecting, which is why I didn't get it.  Now Destiny...
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grumpy1471 said:
I had a little bit of faith in Watch Dogs so I wasn't too surprised when it flopped. Destiny looks quite promising though. It looks like a mix of Borderlands and Halo which is awesome as those games are some of my favorites.
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More like a mixture of Fallout and Halo. I'm definitely hyped up. The alpha was surprisingly smooth when I briefly tried it.
 
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