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Jul 25, 2014 at 7:28 PM Post #24,886 of 48,562
   
Sennheisers use a proprietary connector on their removable cables and I don't believe they work with the Boompro.
 
 
 

 
  Since the Momentum over the ear aren't compatible with the boom mic this would be the next choice. Im able to pick them up right now for $168
 
HD558
 
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sennheiser-audiophile-over-the-ear-headphones/1700513.p?id=1218285361000&skuId=1700513&productCategoryId=pcmcat144700050004
 
What do you think?
 
would this be better then the A40 system?
hd558
vmoda boom mic
turtle beach acu ( could get the astro mix amp with the left over $$$ )

 
Sorry bud, Sennheisers still don't work with the Boompro.
 
Jul 25, 2014 at 7:40 PM Post #24,890 of 48,562
In all honesty, having a BoomPro is highly overrated. Just get great headphone with a decent clip on.

 
Kind of agree.  They're really expensive for what you get.
 
   
which one do you recommend ?

 
The Neewer/HDE work fine for me.  They're like $6 on Amazon for 3 of em.  Takes about two weeks to ship from China tho, FYI.
 
Jul 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM Post #24,892 of 48,562
iMac2much,
Yep, with the Omni, you just wanna plug the amp into the headphone port to get headphone surround. The O2 has extremely low output impedance, that amp was basically designed by the guy who made up the impedance "matching" hype. The Magni happens to have just about the same output impedance, but more importantly than that for any amp is the sound character of the amp. Just use the Omni at first, and read up on reviews of the headphone you want and see what amps people prefer.
I wouldn't call the HE-400 an "analytical" headphone, it's very definitely V-shaped with strong colorations. I thought it was fun but the midrange was noticeably held back and mids/vocals took a definite background role in the music mix. I definitely liked them best on a tube amp with a tube that helped bring the mids back up into balance, the velours and bass on the HE-400 were superb but they did just a disservice to female vocals that I'll personally not own a pair. That's not to say they wouldn't work for you or your music, but the frequency graph definitely is V-shaped with a dip in the mids.

Who is silverwind?
 
Jul 25, 2014 at 11:23 PM Post #24,893 of 48,562
Thanks for everyone's input once again!
Haha, this just goes to show how much I still have to learn about headphones :)  Thanks for all the corrections and recommendations, I really appreciate it!
I do value female vocals a lot since I listen to a lot of musicals, so perhaps the HE-400 are not for me after all.
I've read that my HP100's possess rather neutral sound with extended treble, and I enjoy them quite a bit for my music so far (though I wouldn't mind a bit more bass "impact", though I don't really understand yet whether I want bass extention in the "sub-bass" or "mid-bass"...).  I think these do not have a V signature, so I would probably notice recessed mids if I changed to a headphone with a V signature... hard to say without auditioning more headphones though haha :)
 
Do you feel that the K712 have enough bass extension compared to the HP100?  I've read that the K712 completely lacks V signature and have great mids, but then again I thought I read that the HE-400 had good mids as well.
 
Also, Silverwind helped me with some Omni questions in this thread as well as PM's earlier :)
 
Jul 25, 2014 at 11:39 PM Post #24,894 of 48,562
I like having the boompro over a clip on because I cant stand having to reach for the clip on and dealing with yet another cable from the headphone to the source. Too many cables.Not something you have to deal with the Boompro. However, if you're ok dealing with an extra cable, a clip on is more than fine. I still use my DX mic whenever I'm reviewing a headphone without a mic/not able to use the Boompro.
 
Jul 25, 2014 at 11:43 PM Post #24,895 of 48,562
Ok, silver wind sounds like a nice person.

The K712 has mostly neutral mids, a little midbass hump and doesn't roll off the bass as early as some other headphones, has a bit of a treble spike that doesn't hurt my ears and has decent extension, but basically these lifts don't make music sound unnatural and everything is pretty well integrated.

Try googling the Harman Curve, though the headphones don't have wire-flat neutral frequency charts they DO sound balanced and engaging.
 
Jul 25, 2014 at 11:48 PM Post #24,896 of 48,562
  Thanks for everyone's input once again!
Haha, this just goes to show how much I still have to learn about headphones :)  Thanks for all the corrections and recommendations, I really appreciate it!
I do value female vocals a lot since I listen to a lot of musicals, so perhaps the HE-400 are not for me after all.
I've read that my HP100's possess rather neutral sound with extended treble, and I enjoy them quite a bit for my music so far (though I wouldn't mind a bit more bass "impact", though I don't really understand yet whether I want bass extention in the "sub-bass" or "mid-bass"...).  I think these do not have a V signature, so I would probably notice recessed mids if I changed to a headphone with a V signature... hard to say without auditioning more headphones though haha :)
 
Do you feel that the K712 have enough bass extension compared to the HP100?  I've read that the K712 completely lacks V signature and have great mids, but then again I thought I read that the HE-400 had good mids as well.
 
Also, Silverwind helped me with some Omni questions in this thread as well as PM's earlier :)


The K712s mids are a tad recessed, they are good mids though. The bass extends quite deep and with the right pairing has plenty of body and presence. Some headphones with more midrange presence are the K612, HD 600, and HD 650. I think you will really appreciate the beauty, tonality, and depth of the vocals both female and male from the HD 600 and HD 650.
 
Jul 26, 2014 at 12:12 AM Post #24,897 of 48,562
I like having the boompro over a clip on because I cant stand having to reach for the clip on and dealing with yet another cable from the headphone to the source. Too many cables.Not something you have to deal with the Boompro. However, if you're ok dealing with an extra cable, a clip on is more than fine. I still use my DX mic whenever I'm reviewing a headphone without a mic/not able to use the Boompro.


I've been using actual gaming headsets for years, so this is all new to me. I'll have to connect the mic through the controller anyway so a clip can be an option. ( I have a ps4 clip on mic that could work for now )

I'm still confused on which headset to buy tho.

The 558 has similar specs to the a40s. The 598s are sold out everywhere.

Can't find any specs on the monster dna.

The momentum over ears are in stock tho but @ $300.
 
Jul 26, 2014 at 2:14 AM Post #24,898 of 48,562
For people who have used the ModMic, aside from the price, are there any real disadvantages of using modmic over some clip-on mic? Build quality or sq?
 
Jul 26, 2014 at 2:37 AM Post #24,899 of 48,562
Guys, think about it. How many people that you game with actually use high quality headphones to tell the difference in sound quality from your mic?

Unless you have a dedicated gaming channel with fans and such, the importance of sound quality from a mic is being overblown.
 
Jul 26, 2014 at 2:47 AM Post #24,900 of 48,562
The K712s mids are a tad recessed, they are good mids though. The bass extends quite deep and with the right pairing has plenty of body and presence. Some headphones with more midrange presence are the K612, HD 600, and HD 650. I think you will really appreciate the beauty, tonality, and depth of the vocals both female and male from the HD 600 and HD 650.


Thanks kman!
This makes me even more excited to try out my father in law's hd650 tomorrow.
I've read that hd650 scales immensely with amps (and that the fabled sennheiser veil can be attributed to inadequate amount). However, it's been hard to find a consensus pairing for the hd650 with a budget amp (around $200 or so). I've read some good things about the o2, lyr, and m stage.

Do you have any recommendations? My use would probably be 50% gaming and 50% music.
 

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