mad lust envy said:

That's because they're opposites in presentation. The X1 is bass oriented with a slight tilt in treble at 10khz. The MA900 is midbass/mids oriented, with rolled off sub bass and downward sloped treble.

I don't like comparing two headphones with very different presentations. Apples to oranges.

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mad lust envy said:

For gaming, I feel the MA900 has plenty, plenty of bass. As I said in my review, the MA900 can actually be considered a bassy headphone, since it's midbass IS the most prominent aspect of it's sound, which is basically on the level with the mids, if just a hair tipped upwards in midbass.

Sub bass is amazing and I'd love for more headphones to have it, but as you all may know, games/and devs in general, don't tend to put much information down in the sub bass levels. This is why I personally don't feel the MA900 is lacking in bass in general. Explosions and all sound incredible on the MA900. Because the MA900 is soooooo linear between the mid bass up to treble, where is slopes down... you get a lot of detail where most details are found....the mids. All you miss is the last hint of treble sparkle and more or less the stuff that grates your ears is reigned back. This is why I also don't see the MA900 as lacking in treble. It's a pleasant sound signature with plenty of detail for it's price, with a general, all around tone that won't aggravate the vast majority of consumers.

As always, ear placement is incredibly vital for the MA900. That means you better put it with the ear dead center, or you'll be altering it's sound signature by quite a bit. The further back you put the headphones, the less bass you will get.

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chicolom said:

 
What have you read saying they're different?  FWIR they sound pretty similar.
 
A post here seems to shy away from the A700xs, but they refer the to closed set vs the open. It seems the open ones are farther from my budget then the closed.
 
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/684067/is-the-ath-a700x-as-good-as-ath-ad700-for-gaming
 
It sounds like you trying to rule out any headphone that "requires" an amp.  All headphones are going to benefit from a better amp, but the high ohm or low sensitivity ones are the ones that really need one to sound good.  They just don't get enough volume without one.  No headphones under 100 are going to be that critical of amping.  The HD558 and the Superlux are both around 50 ohms so they will benefit slightly more from an amp, but it's not an issue like it is with 300 ohm mid fi headphones or the low sensitivity AKGs or Planar phones.  AD700s are notorious for being extremely easy to drive.  Don't know about the Samsons, but they're 32 ohms so they should be pretty easy.
 
In this price bracket, I wouldn't let any amp requirements affect your decision. 
 
Well the problem is my budget doesn't take into consideration an amp so if I wouldn't need one it would be beneficial. To at least not need one right away would work to so I could save up for one.
 
That's simple:  The DSS has a Dolby Digital "DD" light on it.  If the "DD" light IS lit up, then it is working correctly.  Anything else (like the "PLIIX" light) means the DSS is NOT getting the required Dolby Digital 5.1 signal, and therefore won't be able to produce surround sound.  If the "Dolby Bypass" light is ON, then push the bypass button and see if it jumps over to "DD" or "PLIIX".
 
DOH! My current setup defaults to PLIIX guess that soundbox isn't doing its job? Is it because the sound is coming via USB to the box and then optical to the DSS? What would you recommend I do in this situation? (Having the DSS already which is apparently good)

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mad lust envy said:

The AD700s were always hovering around $100 for me. The AD700x is $129.

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bakuryu said:

   
A post here seems to shy away from the A700xs, but they refer the to closed set vs the open. It seems the open ones are farther from my budget then the closed.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/684067/is-the-ath-a700x-as-good-as-ath-ad700-for-gaming

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bakuryu said:

I'm just worried now that I might be selling myself short if I am not all about playing competitively. When I do play CS I am very competitive, but I play other games to. I want something that has some immersion to it to. I need a little bit of column a and a little bit of column b for under/around $100

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spartang087 said:

  Hey everyone. New member here. Great thread and so far really helpful. Can't stress that enough. I have more of a specific question that was asked before, but couldn't find an answer for it. I currently use Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium sound card on my PC and recently purchased the AKG K702 65th Anniversary Edition. Should I get a desktop amp? and if so any strong recommendations? Thanks guys. 

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purpleangel said:

  Titanium (non-HD) or Titanium-HD?
Did you disable your motherboard's on-board audio? in the BIOS
 
I would guess the Bravo Ocean ($120) tube headphone amplifier would be a good choice (guessing).
http://www.amazon.com/Bravo-Audio-Ocean-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00A2QKSVI
 
Read this thread, see what others are using to drive their AKG K702.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/626971/akg-k702-65th-anniversary-edition

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conquerator2 said:

OK, thanks MLE.
Appreciate it!

How are they with music btw?

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salx said:

  @Spartan - yes, an amp is definitely required for AKG's; especially so as your card doesn't have a proper headphone amplifier.

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mad lust envy said:

For those who need a chat cable for the Mixamp 5.8. Axel?

http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=/ID=15447/SID=94998073/productdetails.html

edit: Just noticed... it's a foreign site...

In any case, PS4 chat functions are seriously stupid. And counter intuitive.

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mad lust envy said:

I thought it was you who needed one. My baaad. ;p

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