Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (8/18/2022: iFi GO Blu Review Added)
Jan 16, 2013 at 12:28 AM Post #10,831 of 48,568
CAL and SR850 are pretty different sound-signature wise... The JVC HA-RX700 are another a good budget alternative for semi closed fun sounding headphones for gaming (not as refined as the CAL, better built tho). If you're more into competitive stuff and looking for that extra edge from positional cues you're better off with the Samson tho. CAL's priced higher than either but they're still a strong value at under $100. Haven't heard the Panasonic.
 
Jan 16, 2013 at 12:49 AM Post #10,832 of 48,568
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Hi to everyone, I will buy a pair of headphones for gaming and I want to know which one choose among these??
 
-Panasonic RP-HTF600-S
-Monoprice MHP-839
 
Maybe if I save more money:
-Samsong SR850
-Creative Aurvana Live.
 
I'm looking for, comfort, good sound and reliability..
 
In advance, thanks...


I got the Samson's delivered to the door (2 pack) for <$60 in Australia. Got a set of velour pads for them off ebay as well (order was for the equivelent Superlux model)
 
They sound absolutely awesome for the price and are very well reviewed (often comparable to $200 headphones)
 
I think it worked out about $35 a set with the velour pads (and this is imported into Australia - I think the cans were $10 plus $30 in postage)
 
Funny you should be asking about them - I was just thinking of trying to work out a way to get a set to MLE to try out. I think they definitely deserve a review and would love to hear what he thinks of them. They bat well above their weight.
 
Jan 16, 2013 at 2:14 AM Post #10,833 of 48,568
Just found my old parts express headband under a pile of misc cables.  
I thought I'd try it out on my KSC35s...
 
Surprisingly, it actually works much better with the KSC35s than it ever did with the KSC75s. 
 
 
The KSC75s are a little too fat, and so they just snap in and the drivers become stiff and don't wiggle at all.  The way the KSC75 looks below is the way you get it.  The plastic is hitting and it doesn't rotate at all.  I quickly gave up on heaband + KSC75 because the drivers just pushed against your ear flat and didn't angle at all to conform to your ear, which made them pretty uncomfortable.
 
The KSC35s are slimmer though, so they have enough room to rotate around freely and conform to the angle of your ear.  You can see in the pics there is room for some nice rotation
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I'm not sure how the sound differs from the clips, probably not very much at all.  The pressure is about the same, perhaps slightly more...so slightly warmer/bassier.  Not quite sure yet.  It's hard to A-B compare...
There is more room to position the drivers on the ear then with the clip-ons though.  You can move them to be more centered and aimed into your ear with the headband.  Could make the sound fuller....
 
EDIT: Yes, the sound is fuller > http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-updated-3-11-13-lcd2-entry-updated/10845#post_9061787
 
Comfort is VERY good with the headband, perhaps even better than the clips since it essentially feels identical but without the clip pressure on the outer ear.  Could be a very nice alternative to people who don't like KSC clips but still want the great sound for dollar.
 
 
Hmmm.  I also just realized this would be really good for listening to the KSC35 while laying down/in bed.  The clips sort of fall off and get loose when your laying horizontal b/c of gravity, but the parts express headband stays the same on your head no matter what your orientation is.  Plus there is the danger that you will roll over and bend one of the clips and have to deal with that, but no one cares what happens to the parts express heaband.
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Jan 16, 2013 at 2:56 AM Post #10,835 of 48,568
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I just wish there was a more hair friendly headband out there than the parts-express one.

 
Ya, technically that type of headband can "bite" your hair like the porta pros, but it's a non-issue for me.
 
Jan 16, 2013 at 3:01 AM Post #10,836 of 48,568
I got my Annies today. 
 
Funny enough I prefer listening to music more on them then gaming as of right now vs my DT990pros. I am an immersion gamer though. They do sound fantastic off my E9K/E17 and also on the mixamp with E9K. I know I just have to get used to real bass not over tuned mid bass. Also getting to used to having mids again, the cut scenes in Halo4 take on a whole new level just hearing characters talk so clearly.
 
Also vehicles in Forza Horizon sound more realistic now, instead of every car sounding like it had a giant pack of angry bassy honey bees growling at you. Which means on asphalt roads I can actually hear a car reaching its tire limit. Forza like other console racers still has the tire screech on dirt. 
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If anyone says the AKGs Annies are light on bass. Just make them listen to F-Stop Blues by Jack Johnson and that will set the record straight.
 
Jan 16, 2013 at 3:33 AM Post #10,839 of 48,568
Ya, technically that type of headband can "bite" your hair like the porta pros, but it's a non-issue for me.


Wth do you mean by bending the KSC35's clips? Those things are hella rigid. KsC75 and Yuin clips, yes. KsC35 clips? Not unless you literally try to. :p

I need to get that headband. I have no real issue with the clips, but I'm still curious. Plus, I buzz my hair all the way down so... should be fine.
 
Jan 16, 2013 at 3:48 AM Post #10,841 of 48,568
Actually just got that keyboard a few weeks ago that has a trackpad. The reason I'm still using the wired mouse is because my wireless mouse is acting up and constantly stuttering. Just been lazy getting another one. Also the keyboard being wireless was mostly begause I have my 65" on the opposite wall, and watch my TV shows off my PC on it. I dont wanna have to sit there and maneuver through episodes, etc. So I take the keyboard with me to the bed. :)
 
Jan 16, 2013 at 3:49 AM Post #10,842 of 48,568
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I tend to just lower it to near the beginning if I can't see where the notch is. That's the benefit of knobs for me. The digital buttons took an eternity to set on the SA-31.

 
And that's just the thing I like about a typical volume knob. Absolute volume mapping.
 
You can feel the ends on both extremes, and can generally tell exactly how loud your headphones will be at any given position, making quick adjustments nice and easy. No need to repeatedly mash buttons, just turn it to the exact point where you want it.
 
Also, YGPM. Looking forward to the HE-400 audition!
 
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Man, comfort is not worth $200-300, lol.

 
I'm not so sure about that...the best sound quality in the world means nothing if the headphones just aren't comfortable enough to wear for hours on end and practically make me forget I'm wearing headphones at all. Comfort is critical.
 
On the flip side, paying $200-300 more for a more comfortable version of the same thing would be ridiculous. At least the K702 65th apparently has a refined enough audio presentation to try and warrant its price increase, along with the improved comfort.
 
Also, there are plenty of affordable headphones that have great long-term comfort. The Audio-Technica AD series springs to mind.
 
Jan 16, 2013 at 3:59 AM Post #10,844 of 48,568
Order for the HE400...

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I'm missing someone, right? Better go check that post.
 
Jan 16, 2013 at 4:00 AM Post #10,845 of 48,568
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Wth do you mean by bending the KSC35's clips? Those things are hella rigid. KsC75 and Yuin clips, yes. KsC35 clips? Not unless you literally try to.
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I need to get that headband. I have no real issue with the clips, but I'm still curious. Plus, I buzz my hair all the way down so... should be fine.

 
Oh right, I don't actually have the KSC35 clips, just the 75 ones.  So I meant those
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No reason not to try it.  I can recommend it for the KSC35/porta pro/sporta pro driver though, as it works nicely with it.  It might also work with the Yuins, but I'm not sure without seeing what the clip-on point looks like.
 
I won't really recommend it for just the stock KSC75 driver though, b/c like I said it doesn't rotate and isn't very comfortable. 
 
 
I wonder if there is an even cheaper place to buy that generic mini headphone than parts express.  On Parts express I think you have to pay some shipping costs which cost twice as much than the actual headband.  I'll look around...
 
Before you decide to order on any, let me know - because I might go in for an extra one or two and do a mini group-buy with you
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