Jul 25, 2011 at 8:10 AM Post #841 of 3,855
Alright definitely will take my time. Thanks alot for the mod man :D Probably end up doing it today.. or sometime this week lol.
 
Jul 25, 2011 at 9:40 AM Post #842 of 3,855
Quote:Originally Posted by T-Willi 

"Alright definitely will take my time. Thanks alot for the mod man :D Probably end up doing it today.. or sometime this week lol."



Post your impressions after you try it! :)
 
Jul 25, 2011 at 8:52 PM Post #844 of 3,855
The Baka Bass Mod.​
 
Now let me start off by saying I love my 840s. They sound great with any genre I've played through them but what bugs me is that the bass is rather light in my opinion, and is the overall downfall of these cans other than the weight (but Ive gotten used to that so its no biggie at all) Im not so much of a basshead where I need to drown the vocals and sound/beat of the track in bass to be satisfied, BUT I do love that extra kick to the head where my headphones tell me "Hey man, I got bass and dammit your gonna feel it!"
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Seeing that no-one has made a mod to increase the bass or just mods in general, I was very happy to see that Baka1969 decided to do this mod.
 
This is a very easy and simple mod to do and if for some reason you decide the mod isnt for you its reversible so no worries my good man. As I said earlier I thought the 840s before the mod were very bass light now its a whole different story. On songs that normally have bass I thought (pre-mod) the bass just wasnt cutting it but now It booms! Well to be exact the bass is even punchier now. Its not a big boom and its not muddy, its basically a perfect mix of boom and punch which is what I love.
 
For this mod your going to need a few things: screwdriver, putty (cost me $2.19 with tax. I used plumbers putty but Im sure any other putty like item will do), and the 840s of course. This mod is very simple just put the putty in the can area and also on the back of the driver. Make sure to do this very carefully and dont put too much putty. You want the putty thats on the inside of the cup to NOT touch the putty that is placed the back of the driver. This mod only takes roughly 5 mins and is a very good 5 mins to spend if you want that extra bass.
 
After giving a few songs a listen or two there is a definite difference. I am using my E11+L9 on a volume of about 3/4. Under normal circumstances I have the E11's EQ on 2 but now with the mod I can have the EQ on 0 and be very satisfied with the bass. Only on songs that I just love to render my brain to mush with bass is the only time I have the EQ on 2 now. I did notice the soundstage changed but it was very, very, very minimal but then again it may just be to my ears. The sounds is mainly more "full" and "in your face" Also before the mod Id always thought that the 840s had the infamous "Closed can echo"  but now it is slightly gone and Im happy for that. The 840 is still retaining its very detailed sound which I am extremely happy about. Also I noticed the treble was decreased slightly  but its another miniscule thing that doesnt bother me.
 
Overall, this is an awesome mod and I tip my hat to you Baka for coming up with it
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Jul 25, 2011 at 9:36 PM Post #845 of 3,855
@ T-Willi




Thank you for the how to explaining the procedure. The mod works with both the 840 and 940. I didn't listen as long with the 840 as I did with the 940. To me, the 940's soundstaging didn't seem to condense. I'd be interested in hearing other's experiences with both the 940 and 840 using this mod. Thanks everyone!
 
Jul 29, 2011 at 5:49 PM Post #846 of 3,855
I had the 440s and 840s previously, and I've got the 940s now. The 940s are definitely my favourite of the three, amped or unamped. They're best amped, but still quite good out of my iPod Classic. A marked improvement in refinement, soundstage, treble, and mids over the 440s. The 440s have louder bass, but less bass extension.
 
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have you heard the 440s unamped? i heard the 840s vs the 940s in a store but they were running off a single central source and not an ipod or mp3 player. they didnt have the 440s so i couldnt A/B the 440s vs the 940s.
 
im happy with my 440's oomph unamped.... just dont want to spend $300 and have less than what im getting now.
 



 
 
Jul 30, 2011 at 12:15 AM Post #847 of 3,855


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I had the 440s and 840s previously, and I've got the 940s now. The 940s are definitely my favourite of the three, amped or unamped. They're best amped, but still quite good out of my iPod Classic. A marked improvement in refinement, soundstage, treble, and mids over the 440s. The 440s have louder bass, but less bass extension.
 


Cool to hear all 3 compared!
 
I'm still loving these cans. I haven't even listened to my 702's or 225i's much since getting these. I've found no change in the SS over time (I don't know how many hours now...100?), they sound the same as when I got them and that's just fine to me. Great all rounders that only sound "bad" when paired with bad sounding music. They sound pretty good out of my Cowon D2 as well, though I think better out of my main system and M-Stage. Up/side-gradeitius/curiosity has been satisfied as of now at least.
 
 
Jul 30, 2011 at 2:01 AM Post #848 of 3,855
Hi guys i just got the 990 today. Wow they do sound great but kind of thin? Its like all the singers' voices go up by one pitch! lol. Do the 990s get better after burn-in? If so how long?
 
PS: i own a um3x and have been listening to thme fro around 16 months.
 
 
Jul 30, 2011 at 5:44 AM Post #849 of 3,855


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Hi guys i just got the 990 today. Wow they do sound great but kind of thin? Its like all the singers' voices go up by one pitch! lol. Do the 990s get better after burn-in? If so how long?
 
PS: i own a um3x and have been listening to thme fro around 16 months.
 


you mean 940's, right?
 
 
Jul 30, 2011 at 1:29 PM Post #851 of 3,855
Yeah, this is the only time I've been so familiar with one company's headphone lineup! Here's a brief rundown of the three Shure headphones (according to my ears):
 
SRH440:
 
The most "normal" sounding headphone of the three. What I mean by that is the treble, mids, and bass are well balanced, and they have a fairly clear sound. Isolation and comfort are quite good. I could wear these for a couple of hours straight without much discomfort, although they are a bit creaky. The bass is quite nice -- punchy and decently extended for the price.
 
The main flaw is that the treble is a bit harsh. Not so harsh that you notice it right away, but when you wear them daily at work like I did, the harshness gets to be too much, particularly when you own nicer headphones and are aware of how much smoother and less fatiguing treble can be. My iPod Classic's built-in DAC seems to slightly emphasize the harsh treble, so if you have a better source -- something warm -- you don't notice it as much. The key words there are "as much" -- it's still there. I tried one Head-Fi user's "toilet paper mod" on these headphones (do a search), and the mod tamed the treble a little, but also made the sound a little muddy.
 
SRH840:
 
I know a lot of Head-Fiers are big fans of these. I saw them on sale, so I figured I'd upgrade from the 440s. I heard that the 840s were warmer, so that sounded perfect. Some people complained about the comfort of the 840s, but I found the 440s fine, so I thought, a warmer pair of 440s, what's not to like?
 
It turns out that these are my least favourite headphones in this lineup. If you love these, I apologize in advance for disparaging them. ;)
 
Most importantly, I found these headphones incredibly uncomfortable to wear. I know comfort varies from person to person since our heads are different shapes, so you might find them okay, but I found them heavy and painful. They weigh quite a bit more than the 440s, and the weight sat squarely in the front middle part of the barely padded headband. It just dug and dug into my skull, I felt like it was going to rub away my hair and give me a bald spot! After two hours on the first day, I had a sensitive bruise on my head and my hair had a weird horizontal part. Maybe if I persisted I would have developed a head callous. :(
 
On to the sound: on the positive side, they are more refined than the 440s. The treble, mids, and bass on the 840s sound smoother. On the negative side, the 840s are more coloured than the 440s. The treble is rolled off, so it's not fatiguing, but I wanted more. And the midbass is emphasized, so music sounded boomy to me. The lower bass was then rolled off, which made the bass overall sound unrealistic while also too strong. The 840s are the only headphone where I find the bass fatiguing.
 
Now it's possible that I would have enjoyed these headphones more if they were comfortable. Maybe I needed that period of "psychological burn in" to get used to the sound. But I couldn't take it. And I do own several other pairs of decent headphones, so I think my take on the 840s' sound isn't entirely premature.
 
SRH940:
 
These are my clear favourite of the three. The best part of these headphones is the treble. Now I normally favour a slightly warm sound because I'm sensitive to treble harshness. Or at least I felt that way after growing tired of the 440s' treble. But the treble on the 940s is fantastic. Very detailed, refined, and extended, and not fatiguing. They have the best treble of all my headphones.
 
The mids are also great -- easy on the ear and clear -- but since the treble is emphasized (perhaps a bit too much for treble-shy tastes), the mids are easy to take for granted. The bass is well extended, textured, and punchy, but a bit quiet. I'd prefer the bass a touch louder and the treble a touch quieter, but this is a minor flaw.
 
This raises the question, are these headphones neutral? Or am I just used to overemphasized bass? I do love the Denon AH-D7000s -- their bass is fantastic. And I love the mids of the Sennheiser HD650s. Treble-wise, the 940s are king. If I could buy an all-star headphone combining the best of all three, I would be ecstatic!
 
What else can I say about the 940s... The isolation is decent, although not quite as good as the 440s or 840s. The 940s have a nice travel case, although it's not quite as nice as it looks in ads. The compartment where you store the cord is a rubber-ish tube glued to the bottom of the case, and the tube has come away from the case a couple of times. Luckily and surprisingly, the glue was still sticky, so I pressed the tube firmly back down (slightly crooked, oops), and it seems to be staying in place now. The outside of the case is durable and well made, but the case is a bit large.
 
Also, when I wear the 940s, the headband bends slightly unevenly, such that the left side is a little more bent than the right. Odd, but not a big enough deal to try to fix.
 
That's all I've got for now! I hope my roundup is helpful or interesting to someone. :)
 
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Cool to hear all 3 compared!
 



 
 
Jul 31, 2011 at 4:47 PM Post #852 of 3,855
Great comparison Dan! Sounds like a good description of the 840 to me.
 
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Hi guys i just got the 990 today. Wow they do sound great but kind of thin? Its like all the singers' voices go up by one pitch! lol.
 
 
Do the 990s get better after burn-in? If so how long?
 


If you're used to more midbass, probably! Midrange seems pretty neutral, but the treble can add a little gloss to some things. To me it sounds like they have forward treble and maybe a slightly forward midrange, so yes they're a little on the thin side.
 
For burn in it couldn't hurt to give them a week, I don't think they changed much but it could just be too gradual of a change to notice.
 

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