Shure SRH 940 impression and support thread
Nov 22, 2011 at 8:44 AM Post #2,222 of 3,855
I  don't understand why people complain of the mid-bass "hole", while the 9khz peak is much more annoying to me. It's because of the 9khz peak that percussions  are over-emphasized . Also it's tempting to crank up the volume to hear more bass, but then the 9khz peak becomes painful.
 
 
Nov 22, 2011 at 9:35 AM Post #2,223 of 3,855
I  don't understand why people complain of the mid-bass "hole", while the 9khz peak is much more annoying to me. It's because of the 9khz peak that percussions  are over-emphasized . Also it's tempting to crank up the volume to hear more bass, but then the 9khz peak becomes painful.



My putty mod seems to address each of those issues. It adds a bit more impact to the bass while smoothing out the treble slightly.
 
Nov 22, 2011 at 11:59 PM Post #2,224 of 3,855

 
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It isn't just what's on the box that people should be wary of (i.e. not believe).  They should also refuse to believe that the 940 is bass-light, no matter that they read it 1000 times on this forum.  Because it simply is not true.



No matter if anyone reads it 1000 times that the 940 doesn't have a hole in the mid bass, that simply isn't true. No mater if it's repeated ad nauseum that the 940 sounds like the Senn HD800, that also isn't true.

The 940 does have a hole in the mid bass that's clearly depicted in the chart:

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=863&graphID[]=3101

Not to mention clearly heard.


There's a real proof that you keep dodging, and that's a specific music track (or two or three) that demonstrates your claim.  Only two people here have ever suggested tracks, and both were high frequency comparisons.
 
So I think my case is winning.
 
 
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 12:24 AM Post #2,225 of 3,855
I would like to put in my opinions on this matter. I just auditioned both headphones side by side and bring home an SRH940. 
 
- There is no holes in the midbass and the bass is way lighter than SRH840.
- The HD800 is more superior than the SRH940 (in terms of comfort, soundstage and overall sound quality)
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 1:24 AM Post #2,226 of 3,855


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There's a real proof that you keep dodging, and that's a specific music track (or two or three) that demonstrates your claim.  Only two people here have ever suggested tracks, and both were high frequency comparisons.
 
So I think my case is winning.
 


Oldshoe - it's not a competition - I respect your view although I disagree with it (that the 940 is 'flagship good').  Might be time to give it a rest?

 
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I would like to put in my opinions on this matter. I just auditioned both headphones side by side and bring home an SRH940. 
 
- There is no holes in the midbass and the bass is way lighter than SRH840.
- The HD800 is more superior than the SRH940 (in terms of comfort, soundstage and overall sound quality)


Nick - sorry - disagree with your first point.  Mid-bass is comparatively lacking IMO, and freq graphs confirm this as well.  there's definitely a dip, and it's not small.  I do agree that the 840 has more overall bass - although it doesn't extend as low.  Can't comment on the HD800 as sadly I haven't heard them.  have you had the chance to audition the HD600s yet?
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 2:33 AM Post #2,228 of 3,855


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Oldshoe - it's not a competition - I respect your view although I disagree with it (that the 940 is 'flagship good').  Might be time to give it a rest?

 

Nick - sorry - disagree with your first point.  Mid-bass is comparatively lacking IMO, and freq graphs confirm this as well.  there's definitely a dip, and it's not small.  I do agree that the 840 has more overall bass - although it doesn't extend as low.  Can't comment on the HD800 as sadly I haven't heard them.  have you had the chance to audition the HD600s yet?


I did a test over the internet on bass frequencies. It's okay! :) But how do we test the mid-bass properly (Other than FR graph)? I'm not really an expert on these types of tests but if it's really a hole I should have noticed something in the bass department.
 
Yes! I have auditioned the HD600 and IMO they are fantastic! I like them as much as my DT880.
 
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 2:38 AM Post #2,229 of 3,855


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Oldshoe - it's not a competition - I respect your view although I disagree with it (that the 940 is 'flagship good').  Might be time to give it a rest?

 

Nick - sorry - disagree with your first point.  Mid-bass is comparatively lacking IMO, and freq graphs confirm this as well.  there's definitely a dip, and it's not small.  I do agree that the 840 has more overall bass - although it doesn't extend as low.  Can't comment on the HD800 as sadly I haven't heard them.  have you had the chance to audition the HD600s yet?


And why don't you ask the other guy to give it a rest?  I did a lot of work testing and comparing them, and to my recollection, the other guy did none.
 
 
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 2:39 AM Post #2,230 of 3,855


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I would like to put in my opinions on this matter. I just auditioned both headphones side by side and bring home an SRH940. 
 
- There is no holes in the midbass and the bass is way lighter than SRH840.
- The HD800 is more superior than the SRH940 (in terms of comfort, soundstage and overall sound quality)


This is exactly the result I got, from extensive testing.  Although I did not have a 840.
 
 
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 2:48 AM Post #2,231 of 3,855


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And why don't you ask the other guy to give it a rest?  I did a lot of work testing and comparing them, and to my recollection, the other guy did none.
 
 


Because he doesn't repeatedly keep covering old ground - unless he's responding to posts from you, or to the odd poster who still brings up the SRH940 = HD800.  It's been debated to death.  Not going to get either side to agree on anything - so there is little point.  And like I said, there is no winning or losing side.  There is only subjective impressions.
 
I say kudos to the people who like them - not my cup of tea, and I do regard the SRH840 as the better can - but that's my (very subjective) opinion.
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 2:54 AM Post #2,232 of 3,855


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Because he doesn't repeatedly keep covering old ground - unless he's responding to posts from you, or to the odd poster who still brings up the SRH940 = HD800.  It's been debated to death.  Not going to get either side to agree on anything - so there is little point.  And like I said, there is no winning or losing side.  There is only subjective impressions.
 
I say kudos to the people who like them - not my cup of tea, and I do regard the SRH840 as the better can - but that's my (very subjective) opinion.


Actually, I didn't post here for a whole month, figuring you all would wrap it up and stop repeating the "bass light" thing over and over.  But I come back and it is being repeated over and over, by the same people.  Why is that necessary, and then why is it wrong for me to repeat what I do?
 
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 3:05 AM Post #2,233 of 3,855



Actually, I didn't post here for a whole month, figuring you all would wrap it up and stop repeating the "bass light" thing over and over.  But I come back and it is being repeated over and over, by the same people.  Why is that necessary, and then why is it wrong for me to repeat what I do?
 


Perhaps it's because they actually are bass-light ? (Just messing with you).
 
Look if you want to perpetuate the same thing happening again, and probably the same old escalation again - go for it.  No skin off my nose.  I'll sit back and enjoy the show.  But if you make a statement like this (and it was your first post back in a month) .....
 
 
It isn't just what's on the box that people should be wary of (i.e. not believe).  They should also refuse to believe that the 940 is bass-light, no matter that they read it 1000 times on this forum.  Because it simply is not true.


 ....... you're going to reignite the debate.  And I think far more people (from what I've seen anyway) regard this can as bass light.  It does low bass really well - great extension - but that hole in the mid-bass is noticeable.  Even Malveaux acknowledges it - and he likes these cans.
 
If you want to continue the debate - go for it.  IMO you are wrong.  That's just what my ears and the freq graphs tell me - and it seems a lot of people agree.
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 3:22 AM Post #2,234 of 3,855
Oldshoe99,

I think it's time you prove that you even have the equpiment you state you have. Dozens of fellow Head-Fi'ers have seen mine. I have pics in my profile. So it's time to start showing proof or anything you say will hold little to no weight.

By the way, I HAVE shown throughout this thread why I believe there is a hole in the mid bass of the 940. Hell, I just posted the link to the Headroom chart the other day and have posted it several times. I came up with a mod to help address it. I've been discussing the bass long before you decided to troll Head-Fi. Yet all you've done is become combative with zero to substantiate anything. You've tried to diminish the reputations of well established members with nothing to back of your hollow claims. Several times in this thread you've been asked by more than one person to prove yourself and you've ignored thise requests. I'm calling you out.
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 3:41 AM Post #2,235 of 3,855
Going to take my own advice on this thread - as I have nothing more to contribute.  Unsubbed.
 
Thanks all for the discussion - I enjoyed it.  Look forward to if/when the SRH1040 is released.  Hopefully with the next one Shure knocks it out of the park 
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