[electropop]

You really are a pain in the bottom. I have not heard the 940, but have heard the HD800, therefore I'm only fishing for more information and clarification from YOU, referring it to my experience with the HD800 in the way I found them superior to almost everything I've tried, headphone wise. 
 
A clear question, would you mind answering? 
 
And the chuckle was merely a remark on your own lack of objectiveness as well. 
 
I'm staying out of the whole sound-debate, since it really is not in my interest. I would, however, like for you to explicit on this "HD800 chamber echo" theory. They're not Bose, heh. A head-fier Purrin's measurements kind of indicate that the decay on the HD800 would not allow any extra ringing you mention... Anyway, interested in your claim. Please explain.

 

[electropop]

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I responded, three posts up. Head-fi has been adding extra quotes - don't know why. As far as white jackets go, the clown postings here and off-topic posts about the KSC75 are fairly obvious. And they speak volumes about the other guy.

Ok, sorry about that. Thought you were going looneys
 
But I would like to learn more. When you say something is similar "roughly" in discerning pitches of notes, the other is better. Sound-differences aside, which do you think made tabbing notes easier? What was the music with which you tried?

 

[Tyll Hertsens]

The acoustics inside the HD 800 cups are pretty stellar from what I can see in the measurements and hear.  I woud say they are probably the most accurate, and best imaging dynamic headphones out there. I don't know where you're getting the idea that the HD 800 has poor acoustics from, but it's a bad source.
 
The Shure 940 is a poor sounding headphone, IMO. The 840 outperforms it easily, again, IMO.
 
Saying they sound similar is one of the weirder things I've read here.
 

 

[oldshoe99]

The acoustics inside the HD 800 cups are pretty stellar from what I can see in the measurements and hear.  I woud say they are probably the most accurate, and best imaging dynamic headphones out there. I don't know where you're getting the idea that the HD 800 has poor acoustics from, but it's a bad source.
 
The Shure 940 is a poor sounding headphone, IMO. The 840 outperforms it easily, again, IMO.
 
Saying they sound similar is one of the weirder things I've read here.
 

I see from this that "factual = weird". No facts equals no opinion, sir.

 

[oldshoe99]

You really are a pain in the bottom. I have not heard the 940, but have heard the HD800, therefore I'm only fishing for more information and clarification from YOU, referring it to my experience with the HD800 in the way I found them superior to almost everything I've tried, headphone wise. 
 
A clear question, would you mind answering? 
 
And the chuckle was merely a remark on your own lack of objectiveness as well. 
 
I'm staying out of the whole sound-debate, since it really is not in my interest. I would, however, like for you to explicit on this "HD800 chamber echo" theory. They're not Bose, heh. A head-fier Purrin's measurements kind of indicate that the decay on the HD800 would not allow any extra ringing you mention... Anyway, interested in your claim. Please explain.

Check out J. Gordon Holt's review of the Bose 901. He explains. Tyll should know too, being an arm of Stereophile.

 

[Digital-Pride]

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The acoustics inside the HD 800 cups are pretty stellar from what I can see in the measurements and hear.  I woud say they are probably the most accurate, and best imaging dynamic headphones out there. I don't know where you're getting the idea that the HD 800 has poor acoustics from, but it's a bad source.
 
The Shure 940 is a poor sounding headphone, IMO. The 840 outperforms it easily, again, IMO.
 
Saying they sound similar is one of the weirder things I've read here.
 

Well, I can understand if some aren't enamored with the 940's admittedly clinical sonic presentation, but poor I feel is a bit too strong a word.  Remember the SRH line was made with studio monitoring and recording work in mind, with the exception of the DJ line of course.

 

[MalVeauX]

Heya,
 
Well, I thought the AKG K701 was a poor sounding headphone.
 
It's all relative. Everyone has their opinion.
 
Very best,

 

[kiteki]

 
Guys calm down actually I haven't even read that HD800 review and I wasn't comparing to HD800, I was just saying the SRH-940 competes with the upper echelons of headphones in general, not that it sounds exactly the same as any of them, just that from my listening experience and my personal tastes I think the SRH-940 is in the top dog pack, in a similiar 'school of sound' as A2000X, HD800, Tesla T5p etc., not saying it's a direct rival.
 
Here's an example from a different thread:
 
 
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I owned the ed.8's for some time and sold them because I couldn't get over the pronounced warmth and the hyperbolic emphasis on bass, these are not even close to a natural sound signature, which is my preference. In all the other areas, except soundstage (which is kind of small) the ed.8's do well, but they are shiny (even the palladium) and draw a lot of attention if you wear them outside. Their looks make a good analogy to their sound, bling and baroque.
 
The t5p's on the other hand are more neutral, natural, definitely not for bassheads - a category the ed.8's serve quite well -, I find their soundstage and imaging superior, as well as their clarity/definition, overall a more balanced and better headphone. In regards to their looks, I love them, their built quality is on par to the ed.8's but they are understated, stealthy, classic and don't look like bling at all, I wear them all the time in the subway/street and with so many beats around, not a single head turns.
 
Neither of the two are perfect, but my recommendation easily goes to the Beyers. As for a portable closed that does this well, none at this level. I was extremely impressed with the shure srh940's, these would be my next choice, again, not for bassheads. Here is my closed "portable" can chart:
 
1. Beyerdynamic T5p
2. Shure SRH-940
3. Beyerdynamic T70p
4. Ultrasone Edition 8
5. Beyerdynamic DT-1350
6. Sony Z1000
7. Audio Technica ESW-10

Yup I agree with that guy's thoughts on the Edition 8, and like him, I was also very impressed with the SRH-940, I would have bought it if it wasn't for the ATH-A2000X, which I've had for a few months now, but as excellent as the A2000X is, I feel like something new, and just like him, Tesla T5p and SRH-940 are my top considerations, hmmmmm perhaps I should go to a store and compare them? Hehe but I have a hunch the T5p will win hands down.
 
 

 

[kiteki]

 
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I couldn't hear any resonance (dissonance?) in the 940 either... but I only listened to it for 10 minutes... I have to buy one!!
 
Kinda weighing up my options between the SRH-940 and the Tesla T5p right now.

 
That's interesting. It's not often someone here will weight a $300 headphone equally against a $1300 headphone.

See above post.
 
p.s. it's SRH-940 for $275 (new) versus T5p for $750 (scratched up and second hand)
 
 
Please buy my A2000X (or my IEM's, like Hifiman RE272) so I can afford the T5p please PM me please please. 
 
 

 

[electropop]

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Check out J. Gordon Holt's review of the Bose 901. He explains. Tyll should know too, being an arm of Stereophile.

I know how all the speakers that create an illusion of surrounding sound work, basically.. I don't think the same effect applies for the HD800, at all. 

 

[oldshoe99]

Ok, sorry about that. Thought you were going looneys
 
But I would like to learn more. When you say something is similar "roughly" in discerning pitches of notes, the other is better. Sound-differences aside, which do you think made tabbing notes easier? What was the music with which you tried?

I found two tracks that were in the Amazon guy's review, one by the Who and one by Cat Stevens. The Who for the vocal indicated in the review, and the other for the guitar strumming. The 800 seemed to have richer or more extended upper harmonics. Better? I don't know. But you can hear those differences and others if you're willing to do the work and help people here, which some people don't.

 

[kiteki]

Lol high-end headphones make guitar tabbing easier???

 

[oldshoe99]

I know how all the speakers that create an illusion of surrounding sound work, basically.. I don't think the same effect applies for the HD800, at all. 

Of course it does. It aims the sound away from your ear canal so it has time to bounce around more and smear more. How bad that is I can't say. But that's exactly what it does.

 

[MacedonianHero]

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Nobody cares whether anyone likes the 940 or not, they just want to know how it sounds. And it sounds like a Senn 800. But so far after hundreds of posts, not one person has an example of a track to compare and what to listen for. I think my case is winning.

LoL...sure thing...please continue to dilute yourself. It's a free country after all.

 

[MacedonianHero]

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The acoustics inside the HD 800 cups are pretty stellar from what I can see in the measurements and hear.  I woud say they are probably the most accurate, and best imaging dynamic headphones out there. I don't know where you're getting the idea that the HD 800 has poor acoustics from, but it's a bad source.
 
The Shure 940 is a poor sounding headphone, IMO. The 840 outperforms it easily, again, IMO.
 
Saying they sound similar is one of the weirder things I've read here.
 

 
Thank you Tyll...100% in agreement with you.