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post #2461 of 3762

I suppose but even people like Etymotic used high quality cables in their materials at least. I mean these things are not powering subs here. I could see where there might be improvements but I think they are subtle at best.

 

Also for 300 they can afford at least decent and pure copper and silver is not off the table. If you want larger wiring I guess that may be a concern but I am not an engineer I would not think you need a ton to power each speaker properly. Smaller speakers generally like different wire than subs and so on.

 

Anyway, if it's good for you then great.
 

post #2462 of 3762

My update:

 

After trying these out for several months, I couldn't get:

 

 - any bass worth mentioning, with tons of twiddling, bending and placement.

 - anything out of burn-in, to tame the extreme harshness and what I can only describe as distortion artefacts

 

So I gave my pair away for free. Really, they are that bad, imho. YMMV.

 

Time to try out the Senn Amperiors

post #2463 of 3762
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Originally Posted by halcyon View Post

My update:

 

After trying these out for several months, I couldn't get:

 

 - any bass worth mentioning, with tons of twiddling, bending and placement.

 - anything out of burn-in, to tame the extreme harshness and what I can only describe as distortion artefacts

 

So I gave my pair away for free. Really, they are that bad, imho. YMMV.

 

Time to try out the Senn Amperiors

 

I would like to try your pair....it is very interesting how you dis it so much that you can give it away for free. I mean, someone might not like the signature but it is still a nice headphone...

post #2464 of 3762
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Originally Posted by halcyon View Post

My update:

 

After trying these out for several months, I couldn't get:

 

 - any bass worth mentioning, with tons of twiddling, bending and placement.

 - anything out of burn-in, to tame the extreme harshness and what I can only describe as distortion artefacts

 

So I gave my pair away for free. Really, they are that bad, imho. YMMV.

 

Time to try out the Senn Amperiors

Interesting. After having these for a week or so, I'm comfortable saying these are the best headphones I've owned. I thought the D2000s were bass heavy, but after hearing these, those seem kind of muddy or tubby. The bass in the 1350s is tight but strong and that's my preference. I have found that placement can make quite a difference but to not find any bass despite "twiddling, bending, or placement" indicates maybe you were expecting a different type of bass sound than these produce. 

 

I can't comment on the reported harshness because I have some tinnitus so these sound great in that area. If I had one issue, it's that the mid-range seems to be slightly lacking but not to the point of being a problem. 

post #2465 of 3762
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Originally Posted by halcyon View Post

My update:

 

After trying these out for several months, I couldn't get:

 

 - any bass worth mentioning, with tons of twiddling, bending and placement.

 - anything out of burn-in, to tame the extreme harshness and what I can only describe as distortion artefacts

 

So I gave my pair away for free. Really, they are that bad, imho. YMMV.

 

Time to try out the Senn Amperiors

 

I'd say "YMMV" is an understatement...I can see someone preferring one headphone to another since we all have different taste and preferences, but extreme comments like this have no credibility with me at all. I see you ran right over to the "worst headphones I ever bought" thread and chimed in, too lol

post #2466 of 3762
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

 

I'd say "YMMV" is an understatement...I can see someone preferring one headphone to another since we all have different taste and preferences, but extreme comments like this have no credibility with me at all. I see you ran right over to the "worst headphones I ever bought" thread and chimed in, too lol

LoL, the bass comment alone I couldn't reconcile with my experiences. IMO, there's a tad too much for "neutral" with the DT1350s. To each his own I guess?

post #2467 of 3762
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

LoL, the bass comment alone I couldn't reconcile with my experiences. IMO, there's a tad too much for "neutral" with the DT1350s. To each his own I guess?

 

Absolutely...no shame in not preferring a headphone that is generally well-received like the 1350, or preferring one that generally isn't. 

post #2468 of 3762

Hi,

 

These have as much body to the bass as the T1's, so saying they have no bass is false. I found sliding towards the back of your ears gave the best seal. Also my pair is not harsh at all. I find the presentation to be smooth like the T1's. I don't know why your pair sounded like that but I say it must have been defective.

 

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Originally Posted by halcyon View Post

My update:

 

After trying these out for several months, I couldn't get:

 

 - any bass worth mentioning, with tons of twiddling, bending and placement.

 - anything out of burn-in, to tame the extreme harshness and what I can only describe as distortion artefacts

 

So I gave my pair away for free. Really, they are that bad, imho. YMMV.

 

Time to try out the Senn Amperiors

post #2469 of 3762
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Originally Posted by OrbitingCow View Post

While it is nice to hear that cabling may play a small part I simply don't believe half of that LOL. That doesn't mean it could not be true it's just I have heard a lot of cables and many of them never translate to the hyperbole in words. That is my opinion.

 

There is already tremendous bass on these things. I highly doubt new cables are going to supply so much more as to be of concern. Really, the highs are not shrill at all if the recording is not shrill or compressed to hell. I don't believe cables are worthless but usually a manufacturer uses a certain cable for a reason in many headphones.

 

By any measure if you are choosing cabling over an amp you have entered the true audiophile cult hahahahaha. I mean unless we found the cable in these things to be absolute garbage which I highly doubt.

Thanks. I am a newbie, never experienced re-cabling or amping. Ha ha. Good to hear your opinion. Oh crap, I've fallen into the audiophiles-sorry-wallet-oblivion. I heard there's no turning back anymore.

post #2470 of 3762
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Originally Posted by halcyon View Post

My update:

 

After trying these out for several months, I couldn't get:

 

 - any bass worth mentioning, with tons of twiddling, bending and placement.

 - anything out of burn-in, to tame the extreme harshness and what I can only describe as distortion artefacts

 

So I gave my pair away for free. Really, they are that bad, imho. YMMV.

 

Time to try out the Senn Amperiors

Maybe you're one of the unlucky ones to get a bad batch. There were reports here with bad batches. 

Read previous posts by Purrin.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/533508/new-beyer-dt1350/1710#post_8463510

post #2471 of 3762
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Originally Posted by freakfingers12 View Post

Thanks. I am a newbie, never experienced re-cabling or amping. Ha ha. Good to hear your opinion. Oh crap, I've fallen into the audiophiles-sorry-wallet-oblivion. I heard there's no turning back anymore.

I'm personally not a believer in extensive recabling.  I'm not saying that it has zero impact on sound quality, but...

 

If you're going to spend $300 on a new pair of headphones and then another couple hundred to recable them, then why not just buy a 5-600 dollar headphone in the first place?  I'd say upgrading your headphones will give you much more bang for your buck than recabling an existing headphone.  Oh well, to each his own.

 

 

As for halycon's comments, I can't imagine that the beyer QC issues are THAT bad.  I've read purrin's findings extensively and I am perfectly willing to accept that there are different levels of 1350s out there.  But to have a headphone that has a polar opposite sound to what everyone else is hearing?  It was either a VERY defective unit (beyond the things purrin has found), halycon's hearing/preference is dramatically different from the rest of us, or halycon is just a troll that likes to see Beyer fans get riled up. 

 

Regardless, I'm not upset.  I spent an hour with the 1350s this morning and thoroughly enjoyed it.  Now, I'm just counting down the hours until lunch rolls around and round 2 of listening begins.  beyersmile.png

post #2472 of 3762
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Originally Posted by halcyon View Post

My update:

 

After trying these out for several months, I couldn't get:

 

 - any bass worth mentioning, with tons of twiddling, bending and placement.

 - anything out of burn-in, to tame the extreme harshness and what I can only describe as distortion artefacts

 

So I gave my pair away for free. Really, they are that bad, imho. YMMV.

 

Time to try out the Senn Amperiors


this is simply not true. And if for you this was indeed the case then you had a faulty pair. These were the worst headphones you ever head and tried them for months? And just what were you doing with them over the months? Did you think they would suddenly become good heaphones overnight from the worst you ever heard?  i mean seroiusly if your gonna troll at least make it believable. The bass is huge on these, and overall the sound is full of body.

post #2473 of 3762
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Originally Posted by skyline315 View Post

I'm personally not a believer in extensive recabling.  I'm not saying that it has zero impact on sound quality, but...

 

If you're going to spend $300 on a new pair of headphones and then another couple hundred to recable them, then why not just buy a 5-600 dollar headphone in the first place?  I'd say upgrading your headphones will give you much more bang for your buck than recabling an existing headphone.  Oh well, to each his own.

 

 

As for halycon's comments, I can't imagine that the beyer QC issues are THAT bad.  I've read purrin's findings extensively and I am perfectly willing to accept that there are different levels of 1350s out there.  But to have a headphone that has a polar opposite sound to what everyone else is hearing?  It was either a VERY defective unit (beyond the things purrin has found), halycon's hearing/preference is dramatically different from the rest of us, or halycon is just a troll that likes to see Beyer fans get riled up. 

 

Regardless, I'm not upset.  I spent an hour with the 1350s this morning and thoroughly enjoyed it.  Now, I'm just counting down the hours until lunch rolls around and round 2 of listening begins.  beyersmile.png

Ha ha that is true. Why not spend the money re-cabling to get better phones. Never thought it that way. Penny wise pound foolish I guess. 

Come to think of it, halycon does sound like a troll. He's had his headphones for several months and suddenly it's the worst headphone he'd tried. 

And so glad to hear you are enjoying your ear-gasms. smily_headphones1.gif

post #2474 of 3762

My bet is that by making these custom cables, you messed up the casing and changed something in the resonance.

 

Anyway, the treble is ok, if not as smooth as everyone would love.

post #2475 of 3762
After trying these out for several months, I couldn't get:

- any bass worth mentioning, with tons of twiddling, bending and placement.
- anything out of burn-in, to tame the extreme harshness and what I can only describe as distortion artefacts

So I gave my pair away for free. Really, they are that bad, imho. YMMV.

LOL, people like this seriously amuse me. It's either you have no decent amplification or you have no clue what the hell you are talking about. One or the other.

Troll posts like these make people seem really incredibly daft. I have to seriously turn down my headphones there is so much bass at times in the sealed environment. I am starting to think people need to stop amping with ****ty portable amps. Go big or go home man these are 80 ohm headphones not 18 ohm.

There is really almost no harshness to these headphones unless you are seriously pushing the volume to insane levels. They are about as perfect to me as 300 dollar headphones get. I can understand some criticism as we all should but posts like that are just borderline pathetic. And then he goes over to the other thread to show his findings. I am sure the Amperiors will be you cup of tea lol and if they are not why not try your hand at every other pair out there. Someday you will find something. Someday.
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