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New Beyer DT1350
Apr 2, 2012 at 10:29 AM Post #1,412 of 4,010


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digitalfreak said:
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Thanks for the tip concerning the HD25 pads. I had the spare white set from my Adidas HD25-i-ii lying around in it's box and tonight I decided to try out the mod. End result, I can now pop them on my head and forget about them and no more playing around with fit for 10 minutes to get proper positioning. Thanks man
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Pleather or Velour again? CBB searching :wink:
 
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM Post #1,413 of 4,010
I tried putting the HD25 pads on and gave up - got them to seal around [loosely] the normal earpads, but they then just spun / fell off...
 
Grr!! 
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 1:54 PM Post #1,414 of 4,010
I have been wanting to hear this headphone for a long time, in comparison to my HD25 and M-80, but the timbre issues have put me off. Hope to at least audition these at some point though, especially to experience its detail and 'bottomless bass'.
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM Post #1,415 of 4,010
The 1350 sounds good out of my computer setup. However, when I plug it straight into my ipod, I can tell the bass isn't as tight and the overall sound isn't as transparent/ less separation. I think I may need an amp for it. Any suggestions?
 
EDIT: My mini review/ comparison to the HD25-1 II is up.
http://www.head-fi.org/products/beyerdynamic-tesla-dt-1350/reviews/6569
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 7:02 PM Post #1,416 of 4,010


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roma101 said:
I have been wanting to hear this headphone for a long time, in comparison to my HD25 and M-80, but the timbre issues have put me off. Hope to at least audition these at some point though, especially to experience its detail and 'bottomless bass'.
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Don't think timbre issues will be a problem. The HD25 may have a bit more weight just because of its emphasised bass.
 
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 9:09 PM Post #1,419 of 4,010
Thanks nikp, that's reassuring. It's definitely a headphone I should hear for myself. And I imagine timbre should be pretty decent, since classical is supposed to sound really great on the 1350. I would think that's a genre in which timbre plays an important role when judging a headphone.
 
Apr 3, 2012 at 1:30 AM Post #1,420 of 4,010
In all honesty man these things have a better sound to the timbre than the HD does imho. I don't quite get why people hold the HD's so high but whatever I guess. I think those old phones are pretty colored but fun at times. These are pretty much whatever you want them to be but 1000$ phones lol. Best I have heard in this range with some tweaking.
 
I don't know but presently on my fairly balanced EQ settings (bit less mid and treble than before) Martinon's Debussy/Ravel remastered recordings were ******* amazing.
 
Apr 3, 2012 at 2:28 AM Post #1,421 of 4,010
Sorry to be pedantic but this is a pet hate of mine - "timbre" is used completely incorrectly here.
 
It just means the sound of something. You play an A on a harp and a A on a guitar of the same ocatave and they sound different - the difference is the timbre of the instrument.  In the context of discussing headphones "sound signature" is a synonym.
 
I think people mean "realism" when they say "timbre" - how realistic to life the timbre of a set of headphones is.
 
Apr 3, 2012 at 3:06 AM Post #1,422 of 4,010
From wiki: The physical characteristics of sound that determine the perception of timbre include spectrum and envelope.
 
In psychoacoustics, timbre is also called tone quality and tone color.
 
I was just simply stating this in terms of how people describe an instrument and its sound. I am no professional. I did word it badly though.
 
The tone quality though for things like drum skins and such is discussed correctly in this manner imo. As well the timbre of the instruments in the treble and midrange is much better represented in the DT 1350. The HD is not quite on the same level imo. I guess I am saying the sound signature is more realistic leading to more accurate timbres between instruments. Not sure if that even makes sense now. Correct that if you will.
 
After that last EQ my ears are worn out and I think I am good. I am presently disappearing into these phones at moderate volumes. Comparing them to my Etymotics is a joke. These things are high end imo. Never thought I would say that about 300 dollar phones.
 
They have such a nice full sound. Congrats to Beyer for finally getting over their hump. These are keepers in every way. Some treble flaws at high volumes but those are to be expected for this price.
 
Amp these bitches.
 
Apr 3, 2012 at 5:35 AM Post #1,423 of 4,010
Timbre, I think, is the attack, decay, ruggedness and texture of a particular instrument or voice. The DT1350 imo has the same timbre quality as the DT880 which is not bad at all. 
 
Apr 3, 2012 at 6:53 AM Post #1,424 of 4,010
 
My little comparison between M80 and DT1350 as my M80 just arrived few days ago. 
 
 
Instrument Separation
 
Even tho they are both supa aural, I can still tell the difference between the instrument separation, DT1350 is just a bit better. The overall sound of the M80 just sound a bit too crowded to my ears. The soundstage seems to be bigger on the on the M80 tho.
 
Lows
 
There is also a upper low boost on the M80 which I did not really enjoy (if you want to hear bass guitar,M80 is the way to go). Personally I think it makes the sound muddy and a bit boomy. The M80 may sound airy compare to DT1350, I think mainly because it has got that low end boost which enhance the reverb effect. 
 
Depending on what you listen I guess. The bass of the DT1350 may not sound as thumpy but it is tighter and can actually go deeper.
 
Highs
 
Strings just sound a bit better on the DT1350, they've got treble boost. I think it is the beyer signature. It can be harsh sometimes. 
 
Comfort & Isolation
 
Most people complain about the comfort and fit with DT1350, especially the clamping force. I had the similar problem at the start but now, I think the headphone is pretty much fits very well on my headphone. I thought M80 would be more comfortable, but after listening for a period. My DT1350 wins. The rounded pads just feel better. DT1350 also isolate better than the M80. 
 
Overall
 
M80 is a fun headphone with good packaging, but I just like my DT1350 better. I think M80 will be more forgiving to bad recording. After all, you should try both and compare them yourself. 
 
Apr 3, 2012 at 12:06 PM Post #1,425 of 4,010
^^^ Thank you for the great review!  
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dragoonv said:
 
My little comparison between M80 and DT1350 as my M80 just arrived few days ago. 
 
 
Instrument Separation
 
Even tho they are both supa aural, I can still tell the difference between the instrument separation, DT1350 is just a bit better. The overall sound of the M80 just sound a bit too crowded to my ears. The soundstage seems to be bigger on the on the M80 tho.
 
Lows
 
There is also a upper low boost on the M80 which I did not really enjoy (if you want to hear bass guitar,M80 is the way to go). Personally I think it makes the sound muddy and a bit boomy. The M80 may sound airy compare to DT1350, I think mainly because it has got that low end boost which enhance the reverb effect. 
 
Depending on what you listen I guess. The bass of the DT1350 may not sound as thumpy but it is tighter and can actually go deeper.
 
Highs
 
Strings just sound a bit better on the DT1350, they've got treble boost. I think it is the beyer signature. It can be harsh sometimes. 
 
Comfort & Isolation
 
Most people complain about the comfort and fit with DT1350, especially the clamping force. I had the similar problem at the start but now, I think the headphone is pretty much fits very well on my headphone. I thought M80 would be more comfortable, but after listening for a period. My DT1350 wins. The rounded pads just feel better. DT1350 also isolate better than the M80. 
 
Overall
 
M80 is a fun headphone with good packaging, but I just like my DT1350 better. I think M80 will be more forgiving to bad recording. After all, you should try both and compare them yourself. 
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