Is Crossfeed a must?
Dec 19, 2003 at 4:33 AM Post #16 of 47
Theresa:

Norm told me he doesn't build amps with crossfeed. That's why I didn't buy an amp from him
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Head-Fi'er PinkFloyd builds a crossfeed module (X-Feed) that goes between your source and amp. See his site .
 
Dec 19, 2003 at 4:47 AM Post #17 of 47
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Originally posted by waffenschmidt
Theresa:

Norm told me he doesn't build amps with crossfeed. That's why I didn't buy an amp from him
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Head-Fi'er PinkFloyd builds a crossfeed module (X-Feed) that goes between your source and amp. See his site .


When I asked him he was very opinionated on the subject but then he said he would do it if I wanted. I declined. I wish I hadn't now. Thanks for the link!!
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Dec 19, 2003 at 5:15 AM Post #18 of 47
Yes, I remember Norm being quite opinionated on crossfeed too. But I figured it was his business, and I know the DIYFSE people don't make a ton of money doing it, so I didn't push it. I just went elsewhere.

PinkFloyd's X-Feeds come up on the Buy/Sell forum from time to time too. You might want to keep an eye out there.
 
Dec 19, 2003 at 6:24 AM Post #19 of 47
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I'm thinking now that I would have liked it given some of the very seperated recordings I have, like Hempcamp mentioned with Coltrane's A love Supreme. I love the recording but it can be difficult in certain places with the extreme seperation.


Theresa,

I think I recall from an earlier post that you have a Rio Karma. Have you tried the "stereo separation" mode on some of these highly separated recordings? Apparently it is something of a digital crossfeed filter built into the Karma's firmware, although the one comment I've seen on it on the Riovolution forum wasn't especially favorable.
 
Dec 19, 2003 at 6:56 AM Post #20 of 47
So I guess that listening to a vinyl system acts as a natural crossfeed by itself due to to the acoustic feedback that goes from one channel to the other. Or is this effecct much less noticable than a crossfeed?
On the CD channel seperation should be perfect shouldnt it?

Example question. When you a passage where you got absolute silence on the right channel and something moderately loud exclusiveley from the left (on vinyl), shouldnt you be able to hear it from your right ear (headphones) too, but a bit more silent? Or would it be unnoticable?

Pls tell me the channel seperation of a CDP and a vinyl system in numbers. (dB)
 
Dec 19, 2003 at 4:27 PM Post #21 of 47
Depends on the recording. I tend to like it more with older recordings, for example I was listening to the Pink Floyd DSOTM SACD the other day, and to my ears it sounded ten times better with crossfeed on. Without it the separation (ear/head/ear) was very obvious and unnerving.
 
Dec 19, 2003 at 4:34 PM Post #22 of 47
For me; there is very rarely any difference when the crossfeed switch is ON with 99% of any recordings that I have listened to. Not to say there is never a difference; but since the effects are undetected most of the time; I personally think it is NOT necessary.

My new PIMETA sounds so great, that I can't imagine how crossfeed could improve anything.
 
Dec 19, 2003 at 4:39 PM Post #23 of 47
I don't really notice all that much difference much of the time. However, it definitely does make a difference with longer term listening. Much less fatiguing. Don't ask me why, but that's just how it works for me.
 
Dec 19, 2003 at 5:45 PM Post #25 of 47
For audiophiles, X-Feed is one of the best I've heard. It's more subtle, but it's my favorite because it doesn't add any coloration.

For purists, no crossfeed.

To have your cake and eat it too, K1000's.
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Natural Crossfeed.

-Ed
 
Dec 19, 2003 at 5:48 PM Post #26 of 47
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Originally posted by Edwood
For audiophiles, X-Feed is one of the best I've heard.
-Ed


This is PinkFloyd's creation, correct?
 
Dec 19, 2003 at 6:10 PM Post #27 of 47
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Originally posted by ph0rk
Music should be heard in a way you enjoy, nothing more.


An excellent observation.
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Dec 19, 2003 at 7:19 PM Post #28 of 47
Does the X-can V3 use crossfeed? I only ask since I've notived an echo on many recordings that I havent noticed when using the CD headphone jack and wondered if crossfeed is the cause.

I've never had a sound appear to come from without the headphones, it always sounds like it origionated from within the head. Am I missing something important?
 
Dec 19, 2003 at 7:56 PM Post #29 of 47
Rapidone,

No it does not use crossfeed (I have one) but I have noticed that compared to my Denon receiver's headphone jack (which I actually found better than a Rega Ear I tried) the soundstage is very much broadened and opened up with the X-Can V3. I am using the HD-600 and I get very much less the "in-your-head" effect with the X-Can compared to the Denon receiver jack.
 
Dec 19, 2003 at 9:58 PM Post #30 of 47
I see Chu Moy's modified Linkwitz is available on his site, and the PCB via Tangent. But what about these other crossfeed circuits I hear like PinkFloyd, Foobar, and one other that escapes me? Where can I learn how to build those?

Which ones are the most popular?
 
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