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Apr 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM Post #13,576 of 65,636
 
and you're in that "higher than average" age bracket  
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 Watch It Jay 
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Apr 5, 2014 at 7:38 AM Post #13,577 of 65,636
Apr 5, 2014 at 7:47 AM Post #13,578 of 65,636
My AKG Q701's produce a lot of treble which drove crazy at first. I just couldn't understand how such a high quality headphone could be so fatiguing. Then I bought the ODAC XL & O2 and everything snapped into place. That harsh treble was suddenly smooth and refined. I won't mention how much the bass improved.

I'm guessing when it's partnered with the right gear the treble can be attenuated somewhat. Would it be fair to say that as you climb up the Grado ladder the treble becomes more refined?
 
Apr 5, 2014 at 8:39 AM Post #13,580 of 65,636
 
i woke up with a heavy dose of smart ass this morning lol

I must face the fact that "sometimes your the windshield & sometimes your the bug"......lol
 
My AKG Q701's produce a lot of treble which drove crazy at first. I just couldn't understand how such a high quality headphone could be so fatiguing. Then I bought the ODAC XL & O2 and everything snapped into place. That harsh treble was suddenly smooth and refined. I won't mention how much the bass improved.

I'm guessing when it's partnered with the right gear the treble can be attenuated somewhat. Would it be fair to say that as you climb up the Grado ladder the treble becomes more refined?

Tubes help tame the treble....you could also eq
 
Apr 5, 2014 at 8:53 AM Post #13,581 of 65,636
My AKG Q701's produce a lot of treble which drove crazy at first. I just couldn't understand how such a high quality headphone could be so fatiguing. Then I bought the ODAC XL & O2 and everything snapped into place. That harsh treble was suddenly smooth and refined. I won't mention how much the bass improved.

I'm guessing when it's partnered with the right gear the treble can be attenuated somewhat. Would it be fair to say that as you climb up the Grado ladder the treble becomes more refined?

The Q701's have the same peak at around 2khz that most Grado's have. Some love this as it emphasizes the treble of instruments and can make electric guitar for e.g sound really gritty and textured. I on the other hand find it a little too much and EQ this area down 2-3db. The higher frequencies from about 5 - 8k of both headphones are fine imo and are no more bright than say the HD800. But to get a more ear friendly tone for piano, sax etc I need to tame this one area for my preference. The Foobar 32 bar equalizer has become an essential component for me and some hp's.  
 
The higher up you go up the Grado ladder, yes the treble will sound more refined (less grainy). But no less bright.  
 
Apr 5, 2014 at 9:04 AM Post #13,582 of 65,636
WHat's the best dac for grados? ANyone?


I love my fiio e10 but in the future I certainly think I can upgrade from that haha


I have a Schiit Bifrost and really like it, for both my CD player and my tablet. My laptop has a Schiit Modi connected to it. Great bang for the buck.

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Apr 5, 2014 at 9:30 AM Post #13,583 of 65,636
They are definitely bass-accurate. When the bass is needed, it;s there :D

However, they do produce a lot of treble, so you may find that an issue.

One thing I've noticed on the Grado threads is that the age range of the posters tends to be a little, errrr, shall we say higher than the Headfi average (and I'm not one to talk ... ) and so perhaps the treble doesn't affect a lot of us in a way it might do for a 19 yr old.

Also, the music that the 'kids' are 'down with' these days is generally so poorly recorded that it comes off as very harsh on a revealing headphone like a Grado ... grumble .. grumble ... 


Haha well I'm 28 and I have no issue with it myself. On a YouTube test with audezes, I couldn't hear over 4,000hz. I know it's not a legit test, But other people that did it with me Could hear up near 15-19,000!! I'm doomed
 
Apr 5, 2014 at 9:33 AM Post #13,584 of 65,636
   
They are definitely bass-accurate. When the bass is needed, it;s there
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However, they do produce a lot of treble, so you may find that an issue.
 
One thing I've noticed on the Grado threads is that the age range of the posters tends to be a little, errrr, shall we say higher than the Headfi average (and I'm not one to talk ... ) and so perhaps the treble doesn't affect a lot of us in a way it might do for a 19 yr old.
 
Also, the music that the 'kids' are 'down with' these days is generally so poorly recorded that it comes off as very harsh on a revealing headphone like a Grado ... grumble .. grumble ... 

I bought my first pair of grados when I was 18. Quickly woodied them and loved the heck out of em for two years. Then upgraded to my magnums, which I still have. I'm 21 now. So. I also turned a good handful of my friends onto Grados. So. But I can totally see that most Grado lovers on this site are usually a bit older than that haha
 
Apr 5, 2014 at 9:35 AM Post #13,585 of 65,636
I'm also listening to some Charles Mingus right now. 99% of my friends have a very eclectic taste in music. Punk, metal, jazz, ambient, noise, classical, electronic, all over the board. So I wouldn't make blanket statements saying that "most kids nowadays" listen to solely rap/edm. Because it simply isn't true. Most people I know, and who fall into the age bracket I'm sure you folks are referring to, realize the beauty in enjoying all panes of music. 
 
Apr 5, 2014 at 9:36 AM Post #13,586 of 65,636
I have a Schiit Bifrost and really like it, for both my CD player and my tablet. My laptop has a Schiit Modi connected to it. Great bang for the buck.
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I've really been looking at the Modi. But most people I've talked to said that the e10 and Modi are super similar. 
 
Apr 5, 2014 at 9:57 AM Post #13,587 of 65,636
You know what? I think the dragonfly is a poor match for these gs1000is.. I actually prefer the sound straight from my phone. It's funny because the dragonfly was magical for the rs2s.

But I still say, out of the piano. Oh my god. Dat sounnnddddd is dreamy.
 
Apr 5, 2014 at 10:01 AM Post #13,588 of 65,636
   
They are definitely bass-accurate. When the bass is needed, it;s there
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However, they do produce a lot of treble, so you may find that an issue.
 
One thing I've noticed on the Grado threads is that the age range of the posters tends to be a little, errrr, shall we say higher than the Headfi average (and I'm not one to talk ... ) and so perhaps the treble doesn't affect a lot of us in a way it might do for a 19 yr old.
 
Also, the music that the 'kids' are 'down with' these days is generally so poorly recorded that it comes off as very harsh on a revealing headphone like a Grado ... grumble .. grumble ... 

 
Hey, let's not generalize. I'm 17, love my Grados, listen only to rock (mostly classic), and hate all the crap the kids listen to these days. I think I'm just special though 
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Apr 5, 2014 at 10:53 AM Post #13,589 of 65,636
Haha well I'm 28 and I have no issue with it myself. On a YouTube test with audezes, I couldn't hear over 4,000hz. I know it's not a legit test, But other people that did it with me Could hear up near 15-19,000!! I'm doomed

 
 
4KHz is pretty bad. 
 
Here is some OM,  not a lot of content above 4Khz so you're not missing much :)
 

 
Apr 5, 2014 at 11:30 AM Post #13,590 of 65,636
Haha well I'm 28 and I have no issue with it myself. On a YouTube test with audezes, I couldn't hear over 4,000hz. I know it's not a legit test, But other people that did it with me Could hear up near 15-19,000!! I'm doomed


I got you beat, I can hear flat out to 8khz, then it starts to decay down to 17k, after that nothing. When I was your age on the other hand, I could hear out to 22khz.
 

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