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It is indeed :)

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Originally Posted by CH23 View Post

AWW YES!

just won a bidding for an Grado RA 1 amplifier.

I hope i'll have it by wednesday.


Congrats.

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My ex wife's motto was, ''your money is our money and my money is my money''.

 

Even when my horoscope said, ''today is your lucky day'' she'd still make it home from work, she must have read my horoscope those days too, and was extra careful crossing the street.

 

I'm glad my babling regarding the GS1000i and RS1i could be of some help. For some reason, the GS1000i don't seem to get much love, especially compared to the RS1i. I think that the GS1000i represent a pretty good value, certainly much better than the PS1000.

 

Here's some more babling, I think that a lot of it has to do with where we're coming from, for example, before I got into Grados, I used to own Senns HD600, wich had a big soundstage and ressesed mids, so, when I heard the GS1000, I still got the big soundstage and resessed mids, plus I was hearing détails that I'd never heard with the HD600.

 

The same is true for people who are used to headphones that have an intimate sonic presentation, they might be put off by the GS/PS1000's big  soundstage and resessed mids.

 

I hope some of this makes sense to some of you, otherwise I just wasted my time and yours, so if that's the case, I apologize.

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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post
 

My ex wife's motto was, ''your money is our money and my money is my money''.

 

Even when my horoscope said, ''today is your lucky day'' she'd still make it home from work, she must have read my horoscope those days too, and was extra careful crossing the street.

 

I'm glad my babling regarding the GS1000i and RS1i could be of some help. For some reason, the GS1000i don't seem to get much love, especially compared to the RS1i. I think that the GS1000i represent a pretty good value, certainly much better than the PS1000.

 

Here's some more babling, I think that a lot of it has to do with where we're coming from, for example, before I got into Grados, I used to own Senns HD600, wich had a big soundstage and ressesed mids, so, when I heard the GS1000, I still got the big soundstage and resessed mids, plus I was hearing détails that I'd never heard with the HD600.

 

The same is true for people who are used to headphones that have an intimate sonic presentation, they might be put off by the GS/PS1000's big  soundstage and resessed mids.

 

I hope some of this makes sense to some of you, otherwise I just wasted my time and yours, so if that's the case, I apologize.

I think this makes total sense. The first Grado I owned was the 80i's, and I'm very use to that sound, so I know in my case I would never be able to listen to a headphone with recessed mids, dark/veiled sound or less detail (no matter what brand). I prefer that Grado sound signature from the SR/RS models, even though I've never heard the GS/PS, from what I've read they probably wouldn't suite my tastes.

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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post
 

My ex wife's motto was, ''your money is our money and my money is my money''.

 

Even when my horoscope said, ''today is your lucky day'' she'd still make it home from work, she must have read my horoscope those days too, and was extra careful crossing the street.

 

I'm glad my babling regarding the GS1000i and RS1i could be of some help. For some reason, the GS1000i don't seem to get much love, especially compared to the RS1i. I think that the GS1000i represent a pretty good value, certainly much better than the PS1000.

 

Here's some more babling, I think that a lot of it has to do with where we're coming from, for example, before I got into Grados, I used to own Senns HD600, wich had a big soundstage and ressesed mids, so, when I heard the GS1000, I still got the big soundstage and resessed mids, plus I was hearing détails that I'd never heard with the HD600.

 

The same is true for people who are used to headphones that have an intimate sonic presentation, they might be put off by the GS/PS1000's big  soundstage and resessed mids.

 

I hope some of this makes sense to some of you, otherwise I just wasted my time and yours, so if that's the case, I apologize.

that's exactly how its playing out with the lcd2's, sometimes something with them seemed to not be to my liking, but i couldn't really tell what it was, then i'd put the rs1i back on, it was the sense of intimacy !,  also, comapred to the rs1, the lcd can seem slow sometimes

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another thing i've noticed in using the lcd vs a grado, its like i'm learning to listen differently, if that makes any sense

i did for the first time listen to some classical with the lcd, that was pretty damn good !

some of the "newness" is wearing off, while i love its sound, the rs1 has more soul, more "IT" for me

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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post I used to own Senns HD600, wich had a big soundstage and ressesed mids,

 

This is the first time I think I've ever read someone stating the HD600 has a recessed midrange.

 

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its possible, but i'm not quite there yet !!

seriously, the rs1 and the 500 just complement each other so well to me, and while having the same grado sense of space, pace

the lcd's are great, but they are a  different breed, huge sound stage, deeeeeep bass

 

but before i get another 500, i'm curious now about a gs1000i, who knows what'll show up here next

 

Likewise this is the first time I've seen someone refer to the LCD2 having a huge soundstage. Usually I hear that the soundstage was very closed and small for a Top model. My TH600 soundstage must be massive compared to Grado's if that is true.

 

Either way it makes me more intrigued to hear a Grado model, to see how intimate it really is and how far forward the mids must be to make a HD600 seem recessed. I'll admit the PS1000 would interest me a lot if it was not $2500 odd dollars here.

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Originally Posted by Danni View Post
 

 

This is the first time I think I've ever read someone stating the HD600 has a recessed midrange.

 

 

Likewise this is the first time I've seen someone refer to the LCD2 having a huge soundstage. Usually I hear that the soundstage was very closed and small for a Top model. My TH600 soundstage must be massive compared to Grado's if that is true.

 

Either way it makes me more intrigued to hear a Grado model, to see how intimate it really is and how far forward the mids must be to make a HD600 seem recessed. I'll admit the PS1000 would interest me a lot if it was not $2500 odd dollars here.

 

I meant that, relatively speaking of course, the HD600 has a recessed midrange compared to, say, RS1is.

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I meant that, relatively speaking of course, the HD600 has a recessed midrange compared to, say, RS1is.

 

Guess it's very subjective. I have both (mid-range junkie ;) ).  Both have a slightly forward mid-range - and I wouldn't actually pick one over the other.  I'd be the last to say the HD600 mid-range is recessed in any way - even compared to the RS1.

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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

that's exactly how its playing out with the lcd2's, sometimes something with them seemed to not be to my liking, but i couldn't really tell what it was, then i'd put the rs1i back on, it was the sense of intimacy !,  also, comapred to the rs1, the lcd can seem slow sometimes

 

I've never had the chance to audition the LCD2/3 long enough to form a solid opinion about them, but I do remember being very impressed on those few occasions that I have spent with them at the Montréal Hi-Fi show.

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Originally Posted by Danni View Post
 

 

This is the first time I think I've ever read someone stating the HD600 has a recessed midrange.

 

 

Likewise this is the first time I've seen someone refer to the LCD2 having a huge soundstage. Usually I hear that the soundstage was very closed and small for a Top model. My TH600 soundstage must be massive compared to Grado's if that is true.

 

Either way it makes me more intrigued to hear a Grado model, to see how intimate it really is and how far forward the mids must be to make a HD600 seem recessed. I'll admit the PS1000 would interest me a lot if it was not $2500 odd dollars here.


my comments should have carried the disclaimer:  i have limited exposure to headphones other than grado, so take my impressions with a grain of salt

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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

 

Guess it's very subjective. I have both (mid-range junkie ;) ).  Both have a slightly forward mid-range - and I wouldn't actually pick one over the other.  I'd be the last to say the HD600 mid-range is recessed in any way - even compared to the RS1.

 

Like you say, ''it's very subjective'', but according to John Grado, you can't have a big soundstage, and intimate mids, now, I sold my HD600 in 2006, when I bought my GS1000, so I'm going on memory alone here, and, well!, let's just say that I'm not nowned for having a very good memory, so take this with the biggest grain of salt you can find.;)

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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post
 

 

Like you say, ''it's very subjective'', but according to John Grado, you can't have a big soundstage, and intimate mids, now, I sold my HD600 in 2006, when I bought my GS1000, so I'm going on memory alone here, and, well!, let's just say that I'm not nowned for having a very good memory, so take this with the biggest grain of salt you can find.;)

 

Fair enough

:beerchug:

 

Just my opinion - but the HD600 doesn't have an overly large sound-stage.  It does have a very realistic sound-stage though - and this is why I personally think the mid range is so good on these classic cans.

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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

 

Fair enough

:beerchug:

 

Just my opinion - but the HD600 doesn't have an overly large sound-stage.  It does have a very realistic sound-stage though - and this is why I personally think the mid range is so good on these classic cans.

 

I agree, the HD600 are famous for having a very natural and neutral midrange, but in my opinion, they have a bigger sounstage than Grado's SR an RS series and less midrange presence.

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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

 

Fair enough

:beerchug:

 

Just my opinion - but the HD600 doesn't have an overly large sound-stage.  It does have a very realistic sound-stage though - and this is why I personally think the mid range is so good on these classic cans.


when joedoe and i had our "mini-meet"  he brought along his senn 600, and 650, i did not like the 650 at all, and up until i sprung for the audeze, i thought i might buy one, but compared to my rs1, and ps500, i too felt that the mids were just a bit sucked out, but  its probably more that the mids are more forward with the grado's, sometimes it takes me a while to catch on ! lol

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