New Schiit Lyr: Hybrid 6W Headphone Amp. Yes. Six. Watts. RMS.
Jul 19, 2011 at 9:08 PM Post #766 of 834
 
 
 
No question, the Lyr is a great amp, and should work well if you simply feed it a line level signal from your DAC.  I wouldn't recommend the Lyr for use with IEMs or uber sensitive low impedance cans, but for everything else, it's great.  I would recommend you order it fitted with GE 6BZ7 tubes from Schiit.  The 6BZ7s really sound great in that amp.
 

Hello kwkarth 
you seem to know a lot about stuff. Would you recommend this amp for Hifiman HE series and HD800? I am looking for a new tube amp and would like to upgrade from LD MKIV SE. 
 
thanks, Peter

Peter,
Although I don't own any of the HE series cans, I've heard a couple different models.  I've spent some time listening to the HD-800.  I think the Lyr easily has the power and finesse to do an exemplary job with any of those cans.  The fact that tube rolling can be used to further "tune" the amp for the particular cans you want to use it with is icing on the cake.  As a point of reference, I have never heard my AKG K-701, and K1000s sound better with any other amp.  The Lyr seems to give them new life.  I've found the same to be true for almost every can I have, including the HD600s, K501s, Grados, etc.  I'm sure there are ultimately better amplifiers available if cost is no object, but for me personally the Lyr with the 6BZ7 is right at the top of the curve  before you start to see diminishing returns on your investment.
 
Bast of luck!
 
 


 


For under $700, the Lyr is the best amp I've heard with my HD800s. 6moons was quite intoxicated with the pairing...oh, and the Lyr is my "go to" amp for my HE-6s.
 
Jul 19, 2011 at 9:42 PM Post #767 of 834


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For under $700, the Lyr is the best amp I've heard with my HD800s. 6moons was quite intoxicated with the pairing...oh, and the Lyr is my "go to" amp for my HE-6s.



Just like Peter, it is my go to amp for my HE-6s as well. The only difference is that I have only the Lyr to go to :) 
 
Jul 19, 2011 at 10:16 PM Post #768 of 834
bitfrost schiit is not yet out, rigth? guess i still have time to enjoy the compass before i order the upgradable DAC schiit
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Jul 20, 2011 at 1:26 AM Post #770 of 834
Yes. There are three Schiit dacs planned. The Bifrost is the first off the rank and will begin shipping late August. The next two will step higher up the performance spectrum. The third DAC should compete with the really high end dacs. I personally think the specs of the Bifrost combined with Jason and Mikes experience will allow it to compete with anything up to approx $1500. Can't wait to hear what it is like.
 
Jul 20, 2011 at 3:18 AM Post #771 of 834


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basically my planned setup is Compass as DAC/Pre-amp ---> pre-out ---> Lyr ---> HD650... this way the compass will control the volume instead of the Lyr i.e. i will use Compass' volume knob instead of Lyr's... will there be noise added to the chain in this plan?
 
the rationale is that, Compass has a pre-out switch so if i use it as preamp to the Lyr, i will be using the HD650... if not, i will be using HD595 connected to the Compass...
 
so my desktop rig will have 2 functions: (1) HD650 rig and (2) HD595 rig
 
(1) Compass as DAC/Pre-amp ---> pre-out (switch on) ---> Lyr ---> HD650 (is this double amping? pls advice =)) (mainly for pure audio function)
(2) Compass as DAC/HP Amp ---> pre-out (switch off) ---> HD595 (for movies or gaming if ever i'll play games again)
 
now the 3rd function, i've got the idea from @Kremer930
(3) Compass as DAC/Pre-amp ---> pre-out (switch on) ---> Lyr ---> pre-out ---> Aego M 2.1 speakers (i think this one will have too much noice, but the rationale is to share the music with anyone in the room)
 
bear with me again, as i'm enjoying this "wallet-thinning"-satisfying-audio-hobby journey.
 
 
 


Just got a good discovery today!! and definitely will gonna buy Lyr within the week! =)
 
Compass, as well, is making me smile all the more, just learned about "super mode" today so now so my desktop rig will have 3 functions: (1) HD650 rig and (2) HD595 rig (3) aego M
 
(1) Compass as DAC ---> super mode ---> Lyr ---> HD650
(2) Compass as DAC/HP Amp ---> "normal" mode  ---> HD595
(3) Compass as DAC/Pre-amp ---> pre-out (switch on) ---> Aego M 2.1 speakers
 
my HD595 "idle" dilemma is now solve... now where is my credit card...
 
Jul 20, 2011 at 10:40 AM Post #772 of 834
I could have bought my Lyr today at Jaben Singapore but their stock has scratch at the bottom. I did not buy it, instead, placed an order for a new one with the 6BZ7 tubes. will be waiting for 2 weeks, my HD650 should have been burned-in by then.
 
Jul 20, 2011 at 11:12 AM Post #773 of 834
Welcome to the family.  Once you have a taste for this Schiit I am confident that you will, like me, end up waiting for another of their future products.  
 
The good part to that is that I wont be poor until Christmas time.  I hope that the statement amp and dac come out together.
 
Jul 20, 2011 at 11:28 AM Post #774 of 834
it was a close call though, i first inspected the tubes, their stock came with the 88s but i wanted the 6BZ7s as suggested by you guys... then the salesguy "bent over" over the Lyr and poof bottom scar... got hold-off of myself not to commit to buy his stock but then i placed an order before paying my HD650... 
 
thanks for the warm welcome and all the suggestions =) will enjoy my Compass first before comtemplating on the bifrost
 
Jul 26, 2011 at 12:21 PM Post #775 of 834
 
 
 
No question, the Lyr is a great amp, and should work well if you simply feed it a line level signal from your DAC.  I wouldn't recommend the Lyr for use with IEMs or uber sensitive low impedance cans, but for everything else, it's great.  I would recommend you order it fitted with GE 6BZ7 tubes from Schiit.  The 6BZ7s really sound great in that amp.
 

Hello kwkarth 
you seem to know a lot about stuff. Would you recommend this amp for Hifiman HE series and HD800? I am looking for a new tube amp and would like to upgrade from LD MKIV SE. 
 
thanks, Peter

Peter,
Although I don't own any of the HE series cans, I've heard a couple different models.  I've spent some time listening to the HD-800.  I think the Lyr easily has the power and finesse to do an exemplary job with any of those cans.  The fact that tube rolling can be used to further "tune" the amp for the particular cans you want to use it with is icing on the cake.  As a point of reference, I have never heard my AKG K-701, and K1000s sound better with any other amp.  The Lyr seems to give them new life.  I've found the same to be true for almost every can I have, including the HD600s, K501s, Grados, etc.  I'm sure there are ultimately better amplifiers available if cost is no object, but for me personally the Lyr with the 6BZ7 is right at the top of the curve  before you start to see diminishing returns on your investment.
 
Bast of luck!
 
 


 


For under $700, the Lyr is the best amp I've heard with my HD800s. 6moons was quite intoxicated with the pairing...oh, and the Lyr is my "go to" amp for my HE-6s.


Can you please share a bit more about how the lyr + hd 800 sounds? bass, mids, highs, soundstaging, tonal balance, coloring etc. It would help me alot. :)
 
Aug 1, 2011 at 8:13 AM Post #776 of 834
I was in the same shoes previously. I got hold off by the sound offered by the jj not by the scratch mark and FYI the one I got new in box has some scratch mark as well. Luckily I waited and the ge sound much better as with a pair of used Mullard e88cc.

Mav

it was a close call though, i first inspected the tubes, their stock came with the 88s but i wanted the 6BZ7s as suggested by you guys... then the salesguy "bent over" over the Lyr and poof bottom scar... got hold-off of myself not to commit to buy his stock but then i placed an order before paying my HD650... 
 
thanks for the warm welcome and all the suggestions =) will enjoy my Compass first before comtemplating on the bifrost
 
Aug 2, 2011 at 3:41 PM Post #777 of 834
my tubes wont light up? anyone know what this might be?
 
cant get sound from the amp
 
Aug 3, 2011 at 4:05 AM Post #780 of 834
^ no my dumb self picked the wrong voltage.
 

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