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post #13276 of 20178
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Originally Posted by LifeAspect View Post

 

 

LS50 as computer monitors! beerchug.gif

Do you plug the rear port when you use them like that?

post #13277 of 20178
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

LS50 as computer monitors! beerchug.gif

Do you plug the rear port when you use them like that?

I don't use the plugs. I do need more room for them, but as I am lacking the room, I am rather pleased with their sound. Once I have my own flat I'll prolly end up putting them on stands spaced away from each other.

 

That being said, I am very pleased with the sound they produce as near field monitors, way better sound than the b&w 685 which I had previously.


Edited by LifeAspect - 5/9/13 at 12:24pm
post #13278 of 20178
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The LS50s are currently my only speaker "want" and I would probably use them in a similar fashion. How are they in a desktop/nearfield setup? What do they do right and what do they do wrong? 

post #13279 of 20178

Slightly off-topic, but it cracks me up to see users with the rank Junior Head-Fi'er or Head-Fi'er owning multi-thousand dollar rigs. I guess they just lurked a lot or didn't post much. tongue.gif I'm almost a 500+ Head-Fi'er and my rig is only ~$550 frown.gif

post #13280 of 20178
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Originally Posted by wes008 View Post

Slightly off-topic, but it cracks me up to see users with the rank Junior Head-Fi'er or Head-Fi'er owning multi-thousand dollar rigs. I guess they just lurked a lot or didn't post much. tongue.gif I'm almost a 500+ Head-Fi'er and my rig is only ~$550 frown.gif

Post count doesn't necessarily equate to wallet size.  Although, I sure wish it did...


Edited by Thaddy - 5/9/13 at 1:37pm
post #13281 of 20178

Some of these setups are truly humbling. Lots of respect for a lot of these.

 

 

post #13282 of 20178

Me too, Thaddy...

 

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Post count doesn't necessarily equate to wallet size.  Although, I sure wish it did...

post #13283 of 20178
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Originally Posted by Thaddy View Post

Post count doesn't necessarily equate to wallet size.  Although, I sure wish it did...

Same here. I could use some good amp money.

post #13284 of 20178
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

Pretty good, slightly more detailed than my Lampizator, but tonal/timbre and soundstage falls behind. The built-in linestage is quite good also - as you can see I use that to drive my power amp.

 

It's the first delta-sigma Dac that I like. The only complaint is that the USB input has no galvanic isolation - quite a bummer for the price, took me a while to sort that out.

 

 

I've been looking at the Lampi, I just can't wrap my head around a tube dac.  I guess for the lack of detail or reason.  Why would you want to add distortion at the DAC level.  That's the question I have.  I was thinking might as well go for a NOS DAC instead..

post #13285 of 20178
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

I've been looking at the Lampi, I just can't wrap my head around a tube dac.  I guess for the lack of detail or reason.  Why would you want to add distortion at the DAC level.  That's the question I have.  I was thinking might as well go for a NOS DAC instead..

Tube when done right, isn't "adding distortion". That's what crazed objectivist and sellers want you to believe. Case in point is the BHSE, 4x tubes and extremely low distortion. Overgeneralizing like that is like saying all NOS roll off treble, and all delta-sigma dacs sound like crap. On the same topic, the lampi is more linear than most thing that I've heard (including NOS stuff, various delta sigma Dacs - including many Sabre stuff which people usually claim "most detailed", and R2R). The thing that the Lampi really stands out for is the tone and soundstage. 

 

I've been through most dacs in the market, if the Lampi is distortion and "roll a tube get a random sound" I wouldn't have kept it. I think you heard HC's Hilo, the thing use an opamp output stage, yet you can't really say that it's worse than a discrete stage - implementation is key.


Edited by khaine1711 - 5/9/13 at 4:29pm
post #13286 of 20178
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Originally Posted by LifeAspect View Post

 

That being said, I am very pleased with the sound they produce as near field monitors, way better sound than the b&w 685 which I had previously.

I was -incredibly- unimpressed with the 685s when I auditioned monitors ~12 months ago. Out of the probably 10 or so I auditioned I thought they were clearly the worst...

 

<3 my Paradigm Mini Monitors.

post #13287 of 20178
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Originally Posted by RamblinE View Post

The LS50s are currently my only speaker "want" and I would probably use them in a similar fashion. How are they in a desktop/nearfield setup? What do they do right and what do they do wrong? 

can't really find any flaws with them, not even for nearfield setup. The bass might be a bit too heavy at times but you can simply reduce that with putting the pads inside them. They are an amazing speaker pair and worth every penny (and award).

 

Do buy a good amp for them like the roksan kandy k2 or something in a higher price bracket...they aren't the most effective speakers.


Edited by LifeAspect - 5/9/13 at 5:30pm
post #13288 of 20178
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Originally Posted by HesterDW View Post

Some of these setups are truly humbling. Lots of respect for a lot of these.

 

 

 

In the end, its as long as we enjoy our music right? wink.gif

post #13289 of 20178
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

Tube when done right, isn't "adding distortion". That's what crazed objectivist and sellers want you to believe. Case in point is the BHSE, 4x tubes and extremely low distortion. Overgeneralizing like that is like saying all NOS roll off treble, and all delta-sigma dacs sound like crap. On the same topic, the lampi is more linear than most thing that I've heard (including NOS stuff, various delta sigma Dacs - including many Sabre stuff which people usually claim "most detailed", and R2R). The thing that the Lampi really stands out for is the tone and soundstage. 

 

I've been through most dacs in the market, if the Lampi is distortion and "roll a tube get a random sound" I wouldn't have kept it. I think you heard HC's Hilo, the thing use an opamp output stage, yet you can't really say that it's worse than a discrete stage - implementation is key.

 

Actually, that's exactly what tubes do. That's not to say a tube device necessarily has high distortion, but it will in general have more of it by nature of the tubes themselves, regardless of implementation. Certainly, tube amps for instance with extremely low distortion do exist, even at levels that are inaudible, but you're not likely to ever see a design that can match the distortion floor attainable solid state in this technical aspect. Plus, the BHSE is an exception, not a rule; the vast majority of audiophile tube amps, etc. today have audible and measurable levels of distortion by their own published specs far exceeding that of the BHSE and 99% of solid states. That's the tube sound we all know and love.

 

So, they are factually not as accurate as solid state, there is zero disputing that. I think you're conflating the term distortion with lack of detail; something can have high distortion but still produce sound of exceptional separation and clarity. Instead, what the distortion does is it colors the sound.

 

However, that doesn't mean it's bad. Remember, when you're dealing with gear of a certain high enough standard and quality, the minute differences in technical capability cease to be substantiative compared to sound signature, such as the coloration from the tubes. It just becomes an issue of whether or not you like the sound of the gear, or whether it matches well with other gear per your personal tastes, what people call synergy. 

 

Tubes add distortion, but many, myself included, just happen to like this distortion a lot. 

 

However, I too am of the opinion that a tube DAC doesn't make much sense unless you know exactly what you want to pair it with or have a chance to experiment/audition. Every component you add that has its own coloration is another thing you have to match. It's much easier to find a set of headphones that play nice per your tastes with an amp and a neutral DAC then to match the headphones with the amp AND the DAC. 


Edited by tintin220 - 5/9/13 at 7:41pm
post #13290 of 20178
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

I've been looking at the Lampi, I just can't wrap my head around a tube dac.  I guess for the lack of detail or reason.  Why would you want to add distortion at the DAC level.  That's the question I have.  I was thinking might as well go for a NOS DAC instead..

Because you're a solid state guy biggrin.gif

 

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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

Tube when done right, isn't "adding distortion". That's what crazed objectivist and sellers want you to believe. Case in point is the BHSE, 4x tubes and extremely low distortion. Overgeneralizing like that is like saying all NOS roll off treble, and all delta-sigma dacs sound like crap. On the same topic, the lampi is more linear than most thing that I've heard (including NOS stuff, various delta sigma Dacs - including many Sabre stuff which people usually claim "most detailed", and R2R). The thing that the Lampi really stands out for is the tone and soundstage. 

 

I've been through most dacs in the market, if the Lampi is distortion and "roll a tube get a random sound" I wouldn't have kept it. I think you heard HC's Hilo, the thing use an opamp output stage, yet you can't really say that it's worse than a discrete stage - implementation is key.

Bingo and spot on. To me when I had the L4 to my system, the best thing that stood that was a euphonic sounding intimacy it brought me and my music together. I guess this can be tone which I for one will agree strongly if that is what you meant. See I have the money for a L5 but I can't justify spending on something so expensive (despite how well it is) when I have no space for it. The l4 was massive and heavy when I lugged it around.


Edited by DefQon - 5/9/13 at 7:37pm
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