iBasso PB-2 Pelican fully balanced portable, DB-2 Dac . . HiFlight recommended op amps page 16. .

Nov 24, 2014 at 2:06 AM Post #1,187 of 1,606
I was thinking what would i do next to my current set-up (Fiio X3.>Ibasso PB2 >HD650/ATH-IM70):
 
- replace the X3 to DX90 (DX90>PB2>HD650/IM70)
or
- retain the X3 and add Ibasso DB2 (X3>DB2>PB2>HD650/IM70)
 
retaining the X3 and adding DB2 would make the stack nicely as all 3 would be W55 x L100 with X3 just 1/4" protruding lengthwise.
 
Which option would be better in terms of sound reproduction?
 
I can of course forego the uniform stack if the sound of the DX90>PB2 would have a big improvement over the latter even if the stack has the DX90 wider by 9mm. Sound over aesthetic that is.
 
Nov 24, 2014 at 5:21 AM Post #1,188 of 1,606
So now I have improved the cable from this...
 

 
to this...
 

 
Here are some tips for those who would like to make his/her own cable for PB2 balanced output:
 
1. Be not afraid! It's simpler than it looks.
 
2. Make sure, your headphones support 4 wires (R+, R-, L+, L-). You can go with 3 wires (R+, L+, common R- L-) as well because you will still get double power but some people say it's not good for PB2 in the long run. Personally my opinion, your PB2 will be fine anyway but you may not want to take the risk. I did and nothing happened. If you go with 3 wires you may stop reading here as further goes explanation how to make a 4 wire cable) 
 
3. The easiest way to obtain 4 copper wires is from a UTP patch cord (an Ethernet cable) which you will need to tear apart. It's good to have practice with and very cheap. In the long run you may want to get a better cable. At least you will have experience up to then.
 
4. Braid the wires the following way (click the image to enlarge).

5. Before you solder the Hirose HR10A-7P-6P connector, make sure you have pushed onto the cable a couple of heat-shrinks and whatever you need on the cable before you solder a connector to it. Think twice because when you solder connectors from both sides it would be too late to pull anything on the cable.
 
6. Disassemble HR10A-7P-6P connector and solder the wires the following way:
 

 
 
7. Assemble the connector.
 
8.For sleeving I used Techflex. It's not expensive and can be bought on ebay. You can push it on the cable even with connectors already soldered as Techflex is expandable in diameter. I used the following Techflex type for my cable: 6.4mm x 3m Length - Techflex Flexo PET Expandable Braided Cable Sleeving

 
9. Use a fan or a lighter to heat the heat-shrinks and make the final looks.
 
10.Enjoy!))
 
Nov 27, 2014 at 2:34 PM Post #1,191 of 1,606
And the female version to make an adapter is the HR10A-7J-6S. Wish I could find one in Oz
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 9:43 AM Post #1,192 of 1,606
So this is an update of the installation and daily use of the LM49710's equipped inside the PB2. I will say that at first, I loved the sound, and now...still do. Lol, they have a very immersive sound is as best as I can describe not really warm more neutral sounding, but not neutrality to the point of sterile, very life like sound when installed in the PB2 and paired with the dx90 and the Fidue A83 and SM64 v2. Both A83 hyrbrid IEMs and the SM64 3 with their ba drivers sounds really good with the pb2 normally, the lm49710 is no exception. If anything I believe the fidue a83 sound better with these opamps installed when using the dx90 as source then before.
 
I believe I prefer the LM49710 for my own sonic preferences, do not get me wrong this still sounds like the PB2, but it just has a more lifelike tonality I feel with these 4 mono opamps installed, which is a big preference of mine. I really hope some other people give it a  try, I got these 4 as a bundle on ebay for I want to say 9$ was able to make a lower offer which they accepted.
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 10:07 AM Post #1,193 of 1,606
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251206622371?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 
Link for 2x national semiconductor LM49710s(you need to purchase two of the x2 for the Ibasso pb2 if you are new to opamp rolling.
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 10:13 PM Post #1,195 of 1,606
The female version HR10A-7J-6S is available in Oz, but immediate stock will be the crimp type HR10A-7J-6SC.
http://au.rs-online.com/web/p/industrial-automation-circular-connectors/7645029/
 
and HR10A-7J-6S solder type required back order, but estimated despatch date on 29 Jan 2015
http://au.rs-online.com/web/p/industrial-automation-circular-connectors/7645026/
I've been waiting for this connector as well for a very long period.
 
Mouser have it, but need to pay shipping.
 
Nov 29, 2014 at 12:46 AM Post #1,196 of 1,606
The female version HR10A-7J-6S is available in Oz, but immediate stock will be the crimp type HR10A-7J-6SC.
http://au.rs-online.com/web/p/industrial-automation-circular-connectors/7645029/

and HR10A-7J-6S solder type required back order, but estimated despatch date on 29 Jan 2015
http://au.rs-online.com/web/p/industrial-automation-circular-connectors/7645026/
I've been waiting for this connector as well for a very long period.

Mouser have it, but need to pay shipping.


I need to wait til then before I can use my TH600 with certain amps
 
Dec 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM Post #1,197 of 1,606
Hi all,
 
Here's a short review of the LT1028ACN8 as a buffer in the iBasso PB2:
 
I've done a lot of A/B testing with the iBasso PB2 this morning, to compare the LT1028ACN8 as buffers vs. dummy buffers and the popular HA5002.
 
The LT1028ACN8 is absolutely the the "cleanest sounding" buffer op-amp I've ever used in the iBasso PB2 - noticeably better than the HA5002 for resolution and transparency, but offering less advantage in terms of current gain.
 
For transparency and resolution, however, the LT1028ACN8 is not the equal of using dummy buffers in the iBasso PB2.
 
Here's the chain I use to test resolution and transparency of op-amps in the PB2:
 
FiiO X5 Line Out > iBasso PB2 on 16V battery power (not the switchmode PSU) balanced out > Toxic Cables Silver Poision cables > HD800
 
My most detailed and transparent op-amp for use in I/V is the OPA1612.  The LME49990 is "prettier" sounding, but not as analytically detailed and neutral as the OPA1612.  
 
With the OPA1612 in I/V for the above chain, I can easily detect the degradation of resolution caused by the HA5002 relative to using dummy buffers. It's night and day with that chain.  Not so if I use my lower-resolving LCD-2 rev. 1, which really appreciates the extra current provided by the HA5002.
 
But the HD800 thrive on voltage - they don't need a boost in current (as had with the HA5002 vs. dummy buffers), and they're so revealing they can detect any loss of transparency.
 
Despite my conviction that the LT1028ACN8 is not as transparent as dummy buffers, the difference is subtle - which is saying a lot. In fact, with dummy buffers in place, switching from the OPA1612 to LME49990 in I/V imposed about the same, small reduction in resolution as was imposed by going from dummy buffers to LT1028ACN8 when the OPA1612 were in I/V.
 
When I then switched to using LME49990 in I/V, to compare the LT1028ACN8 to dummy buffers, the reduction in resolution imposed by the LT1028ACN8 was less noticeable than when using OPA1612 in I/V.  I had to go through several of my favorite resolution-testing tracks before I started finding some sections where the difference was great enough to convince that I wasn't imagining things.
 
So that says a lot for the LT1028ACN8's abilities, but I have to ask what benefit is providing?
 
I've scoured the LT1028ACN8 datasheet, found here:  http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/datasheet/1028fc.pdf
 
Sadly, I am unable to find any reference to max. output current in that datasheet.  There are several references to the word "current" and "mA," but I cannot find any specs or charts that I, at least, can clearly interpret to discern how much current the LT1028ACN8 can deliver.  They provide max. output voltage, max. input offset current, max. supply current, but not the all-important max. output current.  (Perhaps I need another cup of coffee, but I just can't find it.)
 
That said, I have no use for the LT1028ACN8, especially given that adding them to the PB2 (vs. dummy buffers) did not allow me to turn down the volume, due to any increase in SPL.  In terms of added power, they almost seem to be inert when used with the HD800, where the HA5002 make a much bigger difference in providing additional power to the current-hungry LCD-2 rev.1, which again, can't really appreciate the resolution advantage of the LT1028ACN8.  I'd rather run HA5002 buffers with the LCD-2 (with LME49990) and stick to using LME49990 and dummy buffers for the HD800.
 
But... For headphones that don't thrive on power as much as the LCD-2, nor thrive on transparency and resolution as much as the HD800, the LT1028ACN8 is definitely "cleaner" than the HA5008, and no doubt provides more power (how much?) than dummy buffers.
 
And you can't beat the price of the LT1028ACN8.
 
Lastly, I'll add that some HD800 owners might want to deliberately "soften" the HD800's analytical nature just a wee bit, to reduce fatigue, and for that, I would say the LME49990 with LT1028ACN8 is a great combination - because it's subtle - not as drastic a "softening" as that caused by HA5002.    
 
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Mike
 
UPDATE:  I've just realized, having previously concluded that using the LT1078ANC8 as buffers would work well with headphones that don't need the resolution demanded by the HD800 or the current gain demanded by the LCD-2, they would probably sound great with the relatively efficient and not exceptionally detailed OPPO PM-1 / PM-2 / or PM-3.  But I've already put everything away, with the PB2 holding LME49990 and dummy buffers.  LOL
 
Dec 16, 2014 at 7:36 PM Post #1,198 of 1,606
Thanks for the summary Mike. That's a nice overview of LT1028ACN8.
 
Actually today I have ordered two dual MUSES01 and 4xLT1028ACN8. I have noticed people characterise MUSES01 as neutral, transparent with huge soundstage. Well, I guess that I want to try and experience the new sound eventually some time in January when they arrive and if I find it more than subtle compared to LME49990 and dummy buffers I will certainly write about it here.
 
PS Spending a lot of dollars for the sake of mere experimenting with uncertain results is kinda weird to most people, but you never know until you try)
 

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