[xinghui0711]

The great thing about W4R is that it performs well for every genres of music. It's light, durable, and an exceptional fit for a UIEM.

 

[MusicalChillies]

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Did you get the "star" tips with yours?  Shocked to hear the old silicone olives would be better than the star tips.

Sorry for the late reply mate. I doubt star tips were even thought of when I purchased these. I am certainly open to trying the star tips though, if they ever come available. I am a firm believer of the tiny output being the best sounding out of  whatever tip. This is going on my experience with supplied foamies, Shure olives and modded tips I use with my MTPC (little tube which allowed tip to fit)
Do comply make small output bore tips? I have always got on with silicone tips and had trouble with foam until I purchased the Shure "olives" which are really easy to fit and do provide a cracking seal. 
 
To reiterate though, I do stand by my pinhole output statement.

 

[Spyro]

Why do you think a pinhole discharge hole would be superior to a more open one?

 

[MusicalChillies]

Absolutely no scientific reasoning mate. From, again from what I experience, any larger negates bass to an extent. Maybe I should of made that clearer, sound as a "whole", which needs bass to make that.
 
Edit: How about sound tube from IEM, mirror output size with tip?

 

[czqdtc]

 
Just got some pretty clothes for my favorite earphone.

 

[MusicalChillies]

Pictures as nice as the tips.

 

[ksimm033]

Nice! What type of complys are those?

 

[Kermy]

Nice! What type of complys are those?

Looks like the T100.

 

[Jetblack08]

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Has anyone heard "Hotel California" by the Eagles with these things non EQed? Crazy awesome and I don't even really like that song. Still can't get over Metallica's S&M album with these. Rock is not my favorite genre but I keep going back to it. Soundstage, imaging, and separation rock.

I have heard "Hotel California" with the W4...as a matter of fact the Eagles whole library seems to be mastered beautifully and brings out the best of the W4. Also Steely Dan.

 

[ksimm033]

Deffinatley gonna have to check it out then. It's crazy how a headphone can make you want to listen to music you normally don't listen to, only because it sounds so good.

I have heard "Hotel California" with the W4...as a matter of fact the Eagles whole library seems to be mastered beautifully and brings out the best of the W4. Also Steely Dan.

 

[doctorjazz]

W4's been part of a headphone shopping orgy (thanks to iem/portable deals thread, Deals thread, and the Discovery Thread, which seems to have a new "latest and greatest, makes last weeks sound like crap" daily...), starting to spend some time with W4's, really nice, musical iem's. Initially thought were bass shy, now seems "just right", out of the many new arrivals, I reach for these the most.

 

[Spyro]

THE VEIL
 
Would love to talk with a Westone design engineer regarding what made them tune the treble so soft where it almost seems veiled? Yet, the detail retrieval is still pretty amazing and actually BETTER than many IEM's that are brighter sounding.  Like, how can that be?
 
The exact opposite would be like a ER4.  Anybody have any idea why it's tuned this way?  So refined and overly smooth?  With 4 drivers and not overly bass heavy you'd think it would be razor sharp detail..
 
But I DO still love the sound of the W4.

 

[Zalithian]

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THE VEIL
 
Would love to talk with a Westone design engineer regarding what made them tune the treble so soft where it almost seems veiled? Yet, the detail retrieval is still pretty amazing and actually BETTER than many IEM's that are brighter sounding.  Like, how can that be?
 
The exact opposite would be like a ER4.  Anybody have any idea why it's tuned this way?  So refined and overly smooth?  With 4 drivers and not overly bass heavy you'd think it would be razor sharp detail..
 
But I DO still love the sound of the W4.

1 word. Fatigue.

 

[treal512]

+2
 
It's the main reason I haven't sold the W4 in almost 2 years now.
 
The PFE232 went out the door quicker than almost any headphone I've owned. A close second would be the SM3.

 

[H20Fidelity]

1 word. Fatigue.

Yes, I totally agree, only owning Westone 3 here the warmth or veil is to avoid fatigue purposely. I guess Westone figured it's much better to have a slightly warm IEM line up over something cold, because please a lot more of the market. I think if W3 were just a little more transparent, just a touch cooler they would be near perfect for my tone levels. Using silver plated interconnect has helped a lot over copper. But when I heard W3 after coming from crisper IEM's like Rockit - R-50 or T-Peos H-100 the veil was very noticeable yet underneath all the detail is there intact. Imagine how your W4's would sound without the veil.