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Ultrasone Edition 8 vs. Beyerdynamic T5P, anybody?

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Just wondering if anyone has had the pleasure of listening to both of these fine headphones. It seems like they should be natural competitors but I cannot find any comparative reviews.

post #2 of 38

anyone compare these???

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I would also like to know, anyone have an opinion for which is the best closed headphones on the market?

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Count me in for any direct comparisons of these two.  I love Beyerdynamic comfort so was definitely interested in the T5p, but after reading that it was bright and bass-deficient the Edition 8 was a lock for me.  Still, there aren't many impressions of it out there, so the more the better.

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Would be more interested in detail comparison between T5P and A2000X...

ED8 is way too colored as a hi-end/hi-fi equipment imo

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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

Just wondering if anyone has had the pleasure of listening to both of these fine headphones. It seems like they should be natural competitors but I cannot find any comparative reviews.



Hi Vince:

I  actually got to hear the T5ps a few weeks back at an audio shop just outside of down town. They were good...just not great. I still stand by my assertion that the Ed. 8s are the best closed cans currently in production. smile.gif

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^ Awesome, thanks for weighing in Peter.

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^ Awesome, thanks for weighing in Peter.



I actually seemed to prefer the DT1350s to the T5p.

 

The Ed.8s are in a whole class onto themselves right now IMO. I am eager though to hear the new Fostex headphone.

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Hi Vince:I  actually got to hear the T5ps a few weeks back at an audio shop just outside of down town. They were good...just not great. I still stand by my assertion that the Ed. 8s are the best closed cans currently in production. smile.gif



I owned the ed8 and now own the t5p and completely disagree with this statement as I think the opposite. Im pasting what I posted in another thread: 

 

 

I owned the ed.8's for some time and sold them because I couldn't get over the pronounced warmth and the hyperbolic emphasis on bass, these are not even close to a natural sound signature, which is my preference. In all the other areas, except soundstage (which is kind of small) the ed.8's do well, but they are shiny (even the palladium) and draw a lot of attention if you wear them outside. Their looks make a good analogy to their sound, bling and baroque.

 

The t5p's on the other hand are more neutral, natural, definitely not for bassheads - a category the ed.8's serve quite well -, I find their soundstage and imaging superior, as well as their clarity/definition, overall a more balanced and better headphone. In regards to their looks, I love them, their built quality is on par to the ed.8's but they are understated, stealthy, classic and don't look like bling at all, I wear them all the time in the subway/street and with so many beats around, not a single head turns. 

 

Neither of the two are perfect, but my recommendation easily goes to the Beyers. As for a portable closed that does this well, none at this level. I was extremely impressed with the shure srh940's, these would be my next choice, again, not for bassheads.

 

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I also own two STAX (4070 and 007) and I'm seriously considering splurging for the 009's. They are undoubtedly my preferred headphones and nothing I have heard comes close to them. However, I travel quite a lot, to the point I listen more with my portable set than with my home hi-fi or my office STAX setup. I wish that my staxen could be portable, but they are not, I even bought 001's and got the amp ultra-fat catted but they couldn't live up to the type of portability and isolation I need.

 

So, the T5p with all its discontents are the best pair of headphones I have heard for "portability" purpose and I believe I have heard them all. Every time a new set that comes out I buy it, and I will continue on the search for portable that can keep up with STAX. But I must say I can't complain with what I use, the sound of my portable set is mind-blowing: iPod 7th gen - CypherLabs Audio Solo - Headamp Arrow 12HE - T5p undoubtedly reproduce the best portable sound I have yet heard.

 

For its purpose and IMO the T5p's are the best out there. Oh, btw, I don't trust measurements, I trust my ears.

 

Here is my closed "portable" can chart:

 

1. Beyerdynamic T5p

2. Shure SRH-940

3. Beyerdynamic T70p

4. Ultrasone Edition 8

5. Beyerdynamic DT-1350

6. Sony Z1000

7. Audio Technica ESW-10


Edited by GuyDebord - 10/15/11 at 9:33pm
post #10 of 38
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Originally Posted by GuyDebord View Post

I owned the ed8 and now own the t5p and completely disagree with this statement as I think the opposite. Im pasting what I posted in another thread: 

 

 

I owned the ed.8's for some time and sold them because I couldn't get over the pronounced warmth and the hyperbolic emphasis on bass, these are not even close to a natural sound signature, which is my preference. In all the other areas, except soundstage (which is kind of small) the ed.8's do well, but they are shiny (even the palladium) and draw a lot of attention if you wear them outside. Their looks make a good analogy to their sound, bling and baroque.

 

The t5p's on the other hand are more neutral, natural, definitely not for bassheads - a category the ed.8's serve quite well -, I find their soundstage and imaging superior, as well as their clarity/definition, overall a more balanced and better headphone. In regards to their looks, I love them, their built quality is on par to the ed.8's but they are understated, stealthy, classic and don't look like bling at all, I wear them all the time in the subway/street and with so many beats around, not a single head turns. 

 

Neither of the two are perfect, but my recommendation easily goes to the Beyers. As for a portable closed that does this well, none at this level. I was extremely impressed with the shure srh940's, these would be my next choice, again, not for bassheads.

 

-----

 

 

I also own two STAX (4070 and 007) and I'm seriously considering splurging for the 009's. They are undoubtedly my preferred headphones and nothing I have heard comes close to them. However, I travel quite a lot, to the point I listen more with my portable set than with my home hi-fi or my office STAX setup. I wish that my staxen could be portable, but they are not, I even bought 001's and got the amp ultra-fat catted but they couldn't live up to the type of portability and isolation I need.

 

So, the T5p with all its discontents are the best pair of headphones I have heard for "portability" purpose and I believe I have heard them all. Every time a new set that comes out I buy it, and I will continue on the search for portable that can keep up with STAX. But I must say I can't complain with what I use, the sound of my portable set is mind-blowing: iPod 7th gen - CypherLabs Audio Solo - Headamp Arrow 12HE - T5p undoubtedly reproduce the best portable sound I have yet heard.

 

For its purpose and IMO the T5p's are the best out there. Oh, btw, I don't trust measurements, I trust my ears.

 

Here is my closed "portable" can chart:

 

1. Beyerdynamic T5p

2. Shure SRH-940

3. Beyerdynamic T70p

4. Ultrasone Edition 8

5. Beyerdynamic DT-1350

6. Sony Z1000

7. Audio Technica ESW-10


I think your high praise of the treble tilted and bass-shy and rather bright SRH940s pretty much shows that we hear VERY differently! IMHO, the SRH940s were one of the very worst headphones I've heard with regards to tonality this year....and the T5p's were very reminiscent of their sound. I'm quite thankful that the T1s are quite different actually.

 

What ever floats your boat.....it certainly sinks mine.

 


Edited by MacedonianHero - 10/15/11 at 9:48pm
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What ever floats your boat.....it certainly sinks mine.

 


 

True, my boat sinks with un-natural colored bassy cans, and certainly ultrasone is at the forefront group, perhaps we listen to very different type of music. Anyway, the srh-940's are not only praised by me, just have a look at the thread :) you will be surprised

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Originally Posted by GuyDebord View Post

 

True, my boat sinks with un-natural colored bassy cans, and certainly ultrasone is at the forefront group, perhaps we listen to very different type of music. Anyway, the srh-940's are not only praised by me, just have a look at the thread :) you will be surprised


LoL...I have been on the SRH940 thread...and many of note (like Tyll) really seem to dislike their un-natural, uber bright presentation with AWOL low frequencies.

 

BTW...this is coming from a very contented HD800 owner. smile.gif

 


Edited by MacedonianHero - 10/16/11 at 8:31am
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

LoL...I have been on the SRH940 thread...and many of note (like Tyll) really seem to dislike their un-natural, uber bright presentation with AWOL low frequencies.

 

BTW...this is coming from a very contented HD800 owner. smile.gif

 



Yes, I guess headfi is not a democracy... it just takes a few opinions to shatter those of many. BTW, I guess you are aware of my anti hd800 threads :) Our ears are truly opposites. 

Im curious, what speakers do you like?

post #14 of 38

Umm. Any other comparison reviews? I'm getting conflicting impressions. Which one is better in terms of portability (which one's better for ipod), comfort, and sound quality for classical music listener?

post #15 of 38

I own both T5p (now gone) and ED8. I tend to agree with Hero that ED8 is a better option. My observation is similar with Hero's.

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