PS1000 Impressions Thread
Apr 11, 2015 at 1:22 AM Post #1,756 of 3,605
  I just sent an e-mail to MC asking if anyone has done this to their PS1K's and what the outcome of the sound was.
I also asked MC's opinion about having this done to the PS1K's.
I'll keep you posted on the reply.

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Apr 11, 2015 at 11:07 AM Post #1,758 of 3,605
Here's another little PSA regarding music (this time totally FREE FLACS) that I find divine with the PS1000 ...
 
Truth be told, I've had these FLACs for years now, way before I had the PS1000 ... and I like to listen to them with any gear as they represent some of the best, live recorded music I've ever heard.  But they are especially good with highly resolving gear ... the smack of the snare off the back wall, the slightly "room amplified" thump of the bass and especially the gorgeous reverb and three dimensional quality that certain of the crowd sounds, various shouts and hoots, take on.
 
Ryan Adams is a brilliant song writer (IMHO) and even back in his Whiskeytown days, I was a huge fans. And his touring crew are fanatical about recording his live performances and then publishing them for free download at the archive.org website.
 
What follows is perhaps the best of all those they've captured and made available. All such recordings vary of course, due to obvious factors like room size/shape, crowd density and overall, where they can set up mics. But they record just about all of them and in true taper fashion, publish the technical details (source/recording chain/mics used/post processing/etc.) along with the FLACs.  And this is probably the best ... it's a pretty legendary recording among Ryan Adams fan.
 
Anyway ... if you like singer songwriter, sort of "alt country" stuff (think Wilco/Son Volt/Jayhawks) .. then you *must* here these FLACS. They are all totally FREE... 
 
BTW: here's a sample track you can check out; it's one of the slower/more moody tracks but gives a good window in to just how brilliantly they recorded this set (clicking will load a 320kbs MP3):  

Ryan Adams - "Blue Hotel" --> (give it a couple minutes to get going; and no, that's not "distortion" you hear every now and then in the background, that sort of "rattling/buzzing" sound? Almost like a rattle snake rattle? .. that's the springs underneath the snare drum vibrating at each bass hit; anyone who has played in a band will get that...) :) 
 
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And here go the links to download the entire set:
 
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DOWNLOAD ENTIRE SET / 44KHZ / 16BIT 
 
or...
 
DOWNLOAD ENTIRE SET / 48khz / 24bit 
 
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At either page, you just have to select the FLAC option (or which ever format you prefer) from the right hand menu to download a .ZIP file. Also, both pages contain the details of the recording, source, lineage/chain, etc. ... if your in to that sort of thing.
 
Enjoy!
 
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Apr 11, 2015 at 11:12 AM Post #1,759 of 3,605
^ thanks ^
 
Apr 12, 2015 at 12:01 AM Post #1,760 of 3,605
Here is the reply from MC Audio about the PS-1000:
 
Hi Joseph,
I've modded a couple sets of PS-1000's and I believe one of them I modded with replacement wood cups.  I'm not positive, but I believe so.  
 
I'm sorry, but I can't recall the differences in sound characteristics and it's just too subjective anyway.  
 
It's tough to say what my opinion is since the drivers are likely tuned for the aluminum chambers.  I don't believe it will hurt the sound signature, but rather, it will probably mellow them out a bit.  The nice thing is that you could revert back to the aluminum's if you're dissatisfied.  But I've done a set of PS-500's or two with wood cups and have had positive results from the owners from what I recall.  
 
Are you interested in my aluminum hardware as well and/or any other items?  
 
Thank you.
-Martin
 
This is a very good alternative for those who may find their PS1K's too heavy, and like Martin said, it would probably mellow out the sound which would be good for some who find their PS1K's too bright in the high frequencies…and it is reversible. I myself would love to have a beautiful wood cup on my PS1K's without a doubt, especially being I'm not a big fan of the chrome, but I just wouldn't want them to possibly have a mellower sound…I love the way they sound as is.
 
Apr 12, 2015 at 1:07 AM Post #1,763 of 3,605
  Here is the reply from MC Audio about the PS-1000:
 
Hi Joseph,
I've modded a couple sets of PS-1000's and I believe one of them I modded with replacement wood cups.  I'm not positive, but I believe so.  
 
I'm sorry, but I can't recall the differences in sound characteristics and it's just too subjective anyway.  
 
It's tough to say what my opinion is since the drivers are likely tuned for the aluminum chambers.  I don't believe it will hurt the sound signature, but rather, it will probably mellow them out a bit.  The nice thing is that you could revert back to the aluminum's if you're dissatisfied.  But I've done a set of PS-500's or two with wood cups and have had positive results from the owners from what I recall.  
 
Are you interested in my aluminum hardware as well and/or any other items?  
 
Thank you.
-Martin
 
This is a very good alternative for those who may find their PS1K's too heavy, and like Martin said, it would probably mellow out the sound which would be good for some who find their PS1K's too bright in the high frequencies…and it is reversible. I myself would love to have a beautiful wood cup on my PS1K's without a doubt, especially being I'm not a big fan of the chrome, but I just wouldn't want them to possibly have a mellower sound…I love the way they sound as is.

 
Thank you x10 for finding that out.
 
That said ... ???
 
I'm not sure I'm willing to committ to that just yet.
 
Might have to wait for more reviews .. 
 
Thanks a million for the effort, though ... ..
 
.joel
 
Apr 12, 2015 at 2:05 AM Post #1,764 of 3,605
Here is the reply from MC Audio about the PS-1000:

Hi Joseph,
I've modded a couple sets of PS-1000's and I believe one of them I modded with replacement wood cups.  I'm not positive, but I believe so.  
 
I'm sorry, but I can't recall the differences in sound characteristics and it's just too subjective anyway.  
 
It's tough to say what my opinion is since the drivers are likely tuned for the aluminum chambers.  I don't believe it will hurt the sound signature, but rather, it will probably mellow them out a bit.  The nice thing is that you could revert back to the aluminum's if you're dissatisfied.  But I've done a set of PS-500's or two with wood cups and have had positive results from the owners from what I recall.  
 
Are you interested in my aluminum hardware as well and/or any other items?  
 
Thank you.
-Martin
 
This is a very good alternative for those who may find their PS1K's too heavy, and like Martin said, it would probably mellow out the sound which would be good for some who find their PS1K's too bright in the high frequencies…and it is reversible. I myself would love to have a beautiful wood cup on my PS1K's without a doubt, especially being I'm not a big fan of the chrome, but I just wouldn't want them to possibly have a mellower sound…I love the way they sound as is.


Nice work!
I'm good with the Ps1k as is too though. I basically don't want to listen to anything else when I'm at home.
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Anyone using bakoon with their PS1000 ?

I believe @LCfiner used to have the Ps1k, bakoon amp combo, maybe you can send him a pm to get some feedback from him.
 
Apr 12, 2015 at 8:53 AM Post #1,765 of 3,605
Anyone using bakoon with their PS1000 ?

Sorry, I totally misunderstood your post…I had wood cups on my mind, and thought you were asking about a type on wood. 
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Thank you x10 for finding that out.
 

Sure, no problem.
 
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  Nice work!
I'm good with the Ps1k as is too though. I basically don't want to listen to anything else when I'm at home.
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Thank you.
At least now we know a little bit more about this…but I still wouldn't want to possibly change the sound, and I not going to spend the money, then  decide to revert back to aluminum
 
Apr 12, 2015 at 2:16 PM Post #1,766 of 3,605
Here is another reply from MC about the wood cups:
 
Ok, sounds good and thank you.  If you guys are all curious on the thread, I could do something relatively inexpensive, like around $200 and you can try it out and maybe send it around the thread so you can get a decent idea of how it differs.  Or one set with the wood and one stock and take turns if you trust a few of the peeps.  
 
Just lemme know.  Thanks.
 
Apr 13, 2015 at 4:07 PM Post #1,767 of 3,605
But isn't a woodied PS1000 a GS1000? Or am i missing something?
 
Apr 13, 2015 at 4:39 PM Post #1,768 of 3,605
But isn't a woodied PS1000 a GS1000? Or am i missing something?

Well, your missing the different frequency response…and IME they are tuned totally different too my ears. The PS has a forward mid-range and is more mid-centric and fuller sounding than the GS. I feel the RS1i/GS have much more in common, but I prefer the RS1i over the GS.
 
Apr 13, 2015 at 5:53 PM Post #1,769 of 3,605
   
It's not just the materials used to build the cups (metal vs wood vs combination of both) ... the actual driver design/engineering is completely different between the GS1000 and PS1000 ... I would think this latter fact is what creates the vastly different sound between the two headphones and not nearly so much the materials used in the cups (wood vs metal).
 
What I'd like to hear is a PS1000 driver set mated to an all wood housing. I strongly suspect the overall  sonic character of the all wooden cup PS1000 would be very very similar to the standard metal/wood combo cups of the stock PS1000 while being much lighter.
 
Take a set of GS1000 drivers and build them in to the same metal/wood combo cups of the PS1000 and I'd bet they'd still sound mostly like GS1000's and nothing like the PS1000's ...

 
I don't agree with you, when you say that there is a ''vastly different sound between the two headphones''. Different' yes, vastly, no.
 
You've said that ''the driver desing/engineering is completely different between the GS1000 and PS1000'', I seriously doubt that their drivers are that much different, and unless you can prove it to me, I'll have to disagree.
 
It's no surprise that swapping earpads can significantly change the sound of Grado hadphones. Keeping the fact that they both wear G-cushs, in mind, I think that a change in earcup  material, could very possibly be responsable for the sound difference between the GS and PS1000.
 
I remember reading, that Grado even used the HP1000's drivers, on SR a few models, so the GS/PS1000 sharing the same drivers, is in the realm of possibilitys, if you ask me.
 
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, on this one.
 
Apr 14, 2015 at 6:43 AM Post #1,770 of 3,605
   
I don't agree with you, when you say that there is a ''vastly different sound between the two headphones''. Different' yes, vastly, no.
 
You've said that ''the driver desing/engineering is completely different between the GS1000 and PS1000'', I seriously doubt that their drivers are that much different, and unless you can prove it to me, I'll have to disagree.
 
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, on this one.

 
No worries mate ... but I really do find the PS1K's to sound quite a bit different than the GS1K's ... the former is much more mid range centric while the GS1K's mids are quite reduced to my ear ...
 
The PS1Ke's are even more further removed from the GS1K sound ... far far more neutral/flat ...
 
But it's just ears and headphones so disagreeing is par for the course...  also why it's so much fun ...
 
:)
 

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