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Dec 7, 2010 at 5:31 PM Post #421 of 7,417


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georgegoodman said:
I do hope I get to hear a pair soon. I am probably going to make it to the spring White Plains NY meet, and to Canjam if it is in NYC. Hopefully there will be some demos at one of those.
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Sorry that this is off topic.  The spring one is going to be in White Plains?
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That is what I heard.
 
Dec 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM Post #422 of 7,417
Rawrster,  I would definitely say that.. But only very top tier begin to touch the custom with a DAP. I'm thinking something like the SM3 or FX700. With a good DAC and/or amp..the custom clearly pulls ahead of all universals.
 
Dec 7, 2010 at 6:47 PM Post #423 of 7,417
This is my first time trying to interpret a frequency response graph and after looking at the spec sheet, I am wondering if the 6db bass bum on the quad will interfere when listening to classical music (symphony, piano solo, string instruments)? Or should I have gone for the triple? I think jazz is of no problem since Eric had shown satisfaction in it. Pop songs with female vocals should have no problem as well.
 
Dec 7, 2010 at 7:34 PM Post #424 of 7,417

I've been listening to a lot of strings within jazz, and they sounded  wonderful. Going to listen to some classical now and some female voices. I'll let you know what I find out. The bass is deep but not intrusive of the rest of the sound spectrum.
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randius said:
This is my first time trying to interpret a frequency response graph and after looking at the spec sheet, I am wondering if the 6db bass bum on the quad will interfere when listening to classical music (symphony, piano solo, string instruments)? Or should I have gone for the triple? I think jazz is of no problem since Eric had shown satisfaction in it. Pop songs with female vocals should have no problem as well.
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Dec 7, 2010 at 7:39 PM Post #425 of 7,417


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Rawrster,  I would definitely say that.. But only very top tier begin to touch the custom with a DAP. I'm thinking something like the SM3 or FX700. With a good DAC and/or amp..the custom clearly pulls ahead of all universals.
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So it sounds like you're saying it makes better sense to upgrade your sources before you go to customs. Is that right? This thread is a minefield of temptations.
 
Dec 7, 2010 at 8:02 PM Post #426 of 7,417

The 1964-Q sounds very very good coming straight out of my DAP sources, but it sounds great connected to my dac and amp sources. That's what I am saying.
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ericp10 said:
Rawrster,  I would definitely say that.. But only very top tier begin to touch the custom with a DAP. I'm thinking something like the SM3 or FX700. With a good DAC and/or amp..the custom clearly pulls ahead of all universals.
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So it sounds like you're saying it makes better sense to upgrade your sources before you go to customs. Is that right? This thread is a minefield of temptations.
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Dec 7, 2010 at 8:30 PM Post #427 of 7,417


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randius said:
This is my first time trying to interpret a frequency response graph and after looking at the spec sheet, I am wondering if the 6db bass bum on the quad will interfere when listening to classical music (symphony, piano solo, string instruments)? Or should I have gone for the triple? I think jazz is of no problem since Eric had shown satisfaction in it. Pop songs with female vocals should have no problem as well.
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I tried the JH16 which has about a 6db boost in the bass, and it did not do anything but make the bass very realistic. In no way did it intrude into any other spectrum of the sound, but it did make the overall sound more believable and real compared to the flatter JH5s I tried. For symphony it will definitely help with the big crescendoes, bass sections, and overall big feeling. For piano and and strings, it definitely won't get in the way and will probably add some depth to the sound. The way the customs are built is that no frequency rage overrides any others, and this is backed up by my experience.
 
Dec 7, 2010 at 9:14 PM Post #428 of 7,417


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rroseperry said:
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ericp10 said:
Rawrster,  I would definitely say that.. But only very top tier begin to touch the custom with a DAP. I'm thinking something like the SM3 or FX700. With a good DAC and/or amp..the custom clearly pulls ahead of all universals.
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So it sounds like you're saying it makes better sense to upgrade your sources before you go to customs. Is that right? This thread is a minefield of temptations.
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If given the option I'd rather have my blackberry as source (which is by far my crappiest source) and my customs than my HM601 (which I consider a good source) and a top level universal. The choice would be very easy and without hesitation.
 


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georgegoodman said:
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randius said:
This is my first time trying to interpret a frequency response graph and after looking at the spec sheet, I am wondering if the 6db bass bum on the quad will interfere when listening to classical music (symphony, piano solo, string instruments)? Or should I have gone for the triple? I think jazz is of no problem since Eric had shown satisfaction in it. Pop songs with female vocals should have no problem as well.
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I tried the JH16 which has about a 6db boost in the bass, and it did not do anything but make the bass very realistic. In no way did it intrude into any other spectrum of the sound, but it did make the overall sound more believable and real compared to the flatter JH5s I tried. For symphony it will definitely help with the big crescendoes, bass sections, and overall big feeling. For piano and and strings, it definitely won't get in the way and will probably add some depth to the sound. The way the customs are built is that no frequency rage overrides any others, and this is backed up by my experience.
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Are those the demo or do you have both the JH5 and JH16.
 
Dec 7, 2010 at 9:24 PM Post #429 of 7,417


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Hi eric &jermng thanks you very much for the reviews and insights !
Now i'm very confidence in getting the customs from 1964 ears.
However i am still deciding between the triples or quads.
 
May i know what is the offer regarding the international shipping ?
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International shipping is 50 USD unless your order exceeds 400 USD. I confirmed this with Anastasia. So... get the quad 
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Dec 7, 2010 at 10:03 PM Post #430 of 7,417


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randius said:
This is my first time trying to interpret a frequency response graph and after looking at the spec sheet, I am wondering if the 6db bass bum on the quad will interfere when listening to classical music (symphony, piano solo, string instruments)? Or should I have gone for the triple? I think jazz is of no problem since Eric had shown satisfaction in it. Pop songs with female vocals should have no problem as well.
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Lot of weight on strings in the classical recordings I just listened to. Cellos sound marvelous, but clear separation of other string instruments. Listened to Chaka Khan's "Stay" and didn't like her vocals that much with the quad, but I'm think it's the recording. Listening to Minnie Riperton's "Inside My Love" now and it's much much better. Sounds like she's singing into a mic in a recording studio to me. The music surrounds her angelic voices. It sounds good, but I will say that the quad prefers male vocals. Sorry, but there is no perfection in any IEM I believe. So you're going to find something you like in one that you may not like in another. The positives outweigh any negatives by miles, so far for me, with the quad. I think female vocals will depend on the recording, because Minnie Riperton's voice sound wonderful and natural, but Chaka's voice (which is deeper) was lacking for me.
 
Dec 7, 2010 at 10:48 PM Post #432 of 7,417


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ericp10 said:
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randius said:
This is my first time trying to interpret a frequency response graph and after looking at the spec sheet, I am wondering if the 6db bass bum on the quad will interfere when listening to classical music (symphony, piano solo, string instruments)? Or should I have gone for the triple? I think jazz is of no problem since Eric had shown satisfaction in it. Pop songs with female vocals should have no problem as well.
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Lot of weight on strings in the classical recordings I just listened to. Cellos sound marvelous, but clear separation of other string instruments. Listened to Chaka Khan's "Stay" and didn't like her vocals that much with the quad, but I'm think it's the recording. Listening to Minnie Riperton's "Inside My Love" now and it's much much better. Sounds like she's singing into a mic in a recording studio to me. The music surrounds her angelic voices. It sounds good, but I will say that the quad prefers male vocals. Sorry, but there is no perfection in any IEM I believe. So you're going to find something you like in one that you may not like in another. The positives outweigh any negatives by miles, so far for me, with the quad. I think female vocals will depend on the recording, because Minnie Riperton's voice sound wonderful and natural, but Chaka's voice (which is deeper) was lacking for me.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. My doubts are cleared and I will just wait for the custom to be delivered 
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Dec 7, 2010 at 10:49 PM Post #433 of 7,417


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benuyu said:
thanks alot for the information randius ! I appreciate it :D
 
i'm getting the quad soon, it seems like the bump will add more fun to the music.
 
shall do my ear impression soon :D
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A fellow Singaporean? Drats, we could have shipped our ear impressions together.
 
Dec 7, 2010 at 11:17 PM Post #434 of 7,417


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rawrster said:
If given the option I'd rather have my blackberry as source (which is by far my crappiest source) and my customs than my HM601 (which I consider a good source) and a top level universal. The choice would be very easy and without hesitation.  
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ericp10 said:
The 1964-Q sounds very very good coming straight out of my DAP sources, but it sounds great connected to my dac and amp sources. That's what I am saying.
 
 
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Thanks for the responses. I'm very new to good quality IEMs, so it seems a bit scary to jump from RE0s to TF10 to customs in the space of two months. I've read that neither of you (ericp and rawster) are big fans of the TF10s, but they were a revelation to me wrt to bass extension. (They're not so great with rock guitar.) It sounds like the 1964 triples might be just what I want.
 
Dec 7, 2010 at 11:17 PM Post #435 of 7,417

 
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randius said:
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benuyu said:
thanks alot for the information randius ! I appreciate it :D
 
i'm getting the quad soon, it seems like the bump will add more fun to the music.
 
shall do my ear impression soon :D
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A fellow Singaporean? Drats, we could have shipped our ear impressions together.
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Yeah ! Shucks :/ but i'm not getting it soon, still waiting for some refunds before i purchase the quads.
 
You'll be the first proud owner of 1964 ears in SG !
 

 
 
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