My Music Server!
Nov 9, 2010 at 9:01 PM Post #31 of 115
awesome setup! .... i have spent countless hours organizing my music as well as i continue to backup everything up and putting away the physical media where it's nothing more than just out for display.
 
i just import everything into xbmc and play it through there yes i also have everything tagged manually as well.  for me the way mine is organized comes from the folder structures ....
 
CLASSICAL:
composer - piece - orchestra/group - conductor (featured artist) [year][label][source][bitrate]
 
JAZZ:
artist - album [year][remastered label][label][source][catalog number][bitrate]
 
 
i did it this way because depending on which computer system i'm on i can still easily just browse through windows explorer

 
 
Nov 9, 2010 at 9:02 PM Post #32 of 115
i keep digging up more CDs as i'm going through boxes ..... but i'm probably about 4tb in as i have a 2tb, 1.5tb, and 1tb with just a little bit of room to spare per drive.  i still need to get into ripping vinyl records
 
Nov 10, 2010 at 1:32 PM Post #33 of 115
Thank you for posting this. I believe most people have not yet realized the importance of user interface in their listening habits, and I mean both the interface itself (mac with itunes, iphone remote, pc with jr media center, etc) but also the way each person organizes the music.
 
I can really relate with Kenny6007's idea because it will always work, in any system, even 20 years from now, even if 'tags' are replaced by any other concept. In the end gave up to itunes tagging, mostly because of convenience. However, the idea of creating folder structure for playlists or smartlists is very interesting as it let's you program your own 'interface' inside itunes, a custom browsing experience (although uncomparable with J.River's Media Center endless possibilities).
 
However I think a lot more could be done regarding interface with music, especially with, say, an iPad remote... Something in the lines of Apple's Genius feature, but that works better.
 
And come to think of it, it seems very 20th century that every one of us needs to loose lots of time sorting and organizing the very same albums... I hope it's not long before itunes store is selling lossless versions of everything, complete with itunes LP features.
 
thanks for sharing
 
Nov 24, 2010 at 6:36 PM Post #36 of 115
WOW! Great job David. You have managed, through sheer determination and lots tedious work, to turn a sow's ear (iTunes, at least when it comes to classical music) into a silk purse. If I didn't see it for myself I would have never believed it was possible.
 
I too have a large collection of music residing on a dedicated music server (over 12,000 “albums” with 99.9% of them ripped to flac, with over half of my music classified as jazz) which I access via one of my several Squeezbox devices.
 
Here's a step by step run down of how a CD gets into my computer based music library and how I listen to the files:
 
1) All my music is stored on fully backed up external hard drives with the following directory structure: drive letter:/Music/Genre (split by letter, e.g. Jazz A)/Artist - Album (year)
 
2) CD is ripped into separate flac files on a separate computer which I use for “creating” music files (meaning individual tracks as opposed to a single flac file and a cue sheet) using dbPowerAmp. Multi-disc sets are stored in one directory with track numbers corresponding to disc number, e.g. 101, 201, 301, etc. Track numbers for single discs have only two digits.
 
3) Original CD cover is scanned into a cover.jpg file which is placed in the same folder with the flac files. Most of my scanned cover art is around 900X900 and under 1MB. I only scan the cover and not the entire booklet or back.
 
4) mp3tag and renamer are used to “clean” up file names and file tags. My file tagging is very basic with only the artist, album, track title, track number, year and genre fields being used throughout.
 
5) The completed flac files are copied to the external hard drives, both the main drive and the mirrored back-up drive.
 
6) Squeezebox Server runs a rescan to find and catalog the newly ripped CDs.
 
7) Music is listened to on one of the many stereos located in my house via one of several Squeezebox devices.
 
When listening to music on the stereo located in the same room with my computer I use the "Moose" front end to display and select music. I also use foobar to audition some music before adding it to the Squeezebox Server music library.
 
I find that Squeezebox server does a fairly good job in cataloging the music and finding and selecting something to listen to is relatively straight forward, although nowhere near as detailed as your system. For example I cannot search for an artist as a sideman, which is a very nice touch!
 
A few questions:
 
How do you handle multi-disc sets?
 
Do you scan everything: cover, back, tray, booklet, etc.?
 
Is there any way that your system can make use of hyperlinks, in other words, say your listening to Keith Jarrett's European trio and you want to hear something else by Jan Garbarek is there an easy way to this from within the track currently playing or do you have to “back out” to the artist selection screen?
 
I'm sure I will have many more questions, however it's good to see that someone not only recognizes the limitations of most current computer based music library management systems but is taking the bull by the horns and doing something to vastly improve and customize the system. I am in awe of your dedication and resourcefulness!
 
Nov 25, 2010 at 9:23 PM Post #37 of 115
I'm just blown away! This is amazing. I can only appreciate al the work you have put into this, and you're only 28? Seriously impressive.
 
 
Nov 29, 2010 at 5:48 PM Post #40 of 115
Hey David,
 
I am about to pull the trigger on these Can Am drawers.  What do you recommend color-wise?  I am planning on starting with a two drawer on top of a three drawer (5 drawers total) configuration.  And expanding into another 5 drawer stack to put next to it when it becomes necessary.  That's a lot of real estate for the eye to look at.  Getting a color is probably out of the question as it would be too strong.  So that leaves black, light gray, dark gray.  What color(s) are you using?  You have a lot of them I'll bet and I wonder what the whole thing looks like. 
 
The option I am thinking of is gloss textured black with a walnut mica top. 
 
Any advice you can offer on color choices in Can Am drawers would be helpful. 
 
Nov 29, 2010 at 11:25 PM Post #41 of 115


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Hey David,
 
I am about to pull the trigger on these Can Am drawers.  What do you recommend color-wise?  I am planning on starting with a two drawer on top of a three drawer (5 drawers total) configuration.  And expanding into another 5 drawer stack to put next to it when it becomes necessary.  That's a lot of real estate for the eye to look at.  Getting a color is probably out of the question as it would be too strong.  So that leaves black, light gray, dark gray.  What color(s) are you using?  You have a lot of them I'll bet and I wonder what the whole thing looks like. 
 
The option I am thinking of is gloss textured black with a walnut mica top. 
 
Any advice you can offer on color choices in Can Am drawers would be helpful. 

My drawers are black, I believe they're gloss finish, but they may be matte finish, they have a grainy texture.  I think you'll like them!
 
 
Nov 30, 2010 at 12:47 AM Post #43 of 115
I wish I understood all this! I have roughly 6,000 cds, and they're rather a mess; ripped to hard drives semi-randomly, running through itunes or VLC for uncoverted flacs or occasional wavs.  It's not random, but it's NOT organized either.  What you have looks gorgeous.  (And I totally get the need to for 13,000 CDs, by the way, whatever percentage of your life they take up!)
 
Dec 6, 2010 at 12:34 AM Post #45 of 115
I have started making a similar system for my classical music, and have to say it is time consuming, but rewarding. The experience on my PC does not seam to be as polished as using frontrow, but on my iPod classic, which lacks a good default way to browse classical, the organization is amazing. On my old 5th Gen the folder structure is lost, but on my newer Classic the system works perfectly. I currently am only employing the system for classical, with far fewer disk than you have, but it has proven to be a time-consuming task.
 
I currently sort by 
type, folder, eg: CONCERTO
    Instrument, folder, eg: VIOLIN
        Composer, folder, eg: TCHAIKOVSKY, PETER ILYICH
            Work, playlist or folder if I have multiple versions, eg: Violin Concerto in D, OP. 35
                 optional playlist for different versions
                     All movements, titled #. Tempo
 
The system works great, and all I have left is to is add the rest of my classical works to this structure.
 

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