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Originally Posted by devhen View Post
 

Not all 32 ohm versions sound the same, not all 80 ohm versions sounds the same, not all 600 ohm versions sound the same, and so on. Unfortunately, you're not experiencing the variance between the different ohm versions, you're experiencing standard driver variance. And driver variance is quite high with 770s. The 770/880/990 use the same drivers. My theory is that Beyerdynamic is using the most inconsistent drivers in the 770s, it being the lowest-end model of the three, because there are always a lot of varying reports of how bassy or bright individual 770s are while 880s and 990s seem to be significantly more consistent. All headphones have standard driver variance, the 770s just seem to be particularly widely varied. And don't confuse this with driver matching which refers to matching the two drivers in a single headphone. Despite having wide driver variance, the 770s do not typically have issues with unmatched drivers.

Are you kidding me? I knew that that the drivers change the headphones characteristic. But didnt expect the difference to be so big if its same model and driver.

Anyway you'd think because this is a manufaktur headphone they would put a good pair of drivers in it. Wow will not be easy finding the headphone with teh right soundsignature in it.

 

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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post
 

Pleather pads increase bass, tame treble and help isolation on the DT770.


Yeah thats what i was thinking after reading the lots and lots of articles and posts. The treble is a too much. I wanted to listen to Adele and  when i listened to  Someone like you (funk 3d clubmix). Treble was simply overwhelming.  My poor ears got a shock it's still in need to overcome. Didnt expect it from this headphone. When people talk about thunderous bass etc.

I can understand how my friend feels like when i lets him hear my Wooduo with a bass heavy track. lol.

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Keep in mind that one of the curves has had compensation applied. There are still differences, but not so extreme.

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Hi everyone!
I just made an account to say thanks for this guide - definitely exactly what I was looking for after not having this sort of info on overclock.net.

After reading what I needed from this I'm fairly set on a pair of DT990 Pro 250 ohm phones. I just have one question - would these sound okay on a Nexus 5? 95% of the time they'll be amped but just in case I wanted to use them on my phone would they sound adequate?
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I doubt it. 80ohm is iffy unamped.

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Originally Posted by tan1415 View Post

I doubt it. 80ohm is iffy unamped.

I got them today and they sound okay on my phone but not very loud. It doesn't matter though, they're not for my phone anyway.
They're gonna be used on a Yamaha rxv-675 and a Cambridge audio AM10.

They sound pretty darn good, very happy with my purchase smily_headphones1.gif
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Would you say the dt770 pro 250 ohms have less clamp and overpowering bass than the 80 ohm version. I have had the 80 ohm version for a week now and after over 100 hours of burn in still don't like them. I just ordered the 250 ohm version to compare, really all I am looking for is a slight improvement in sound stage with less overpowering bass like the 80ohms have. Also the clamp is a deal breaker for me atm.

 

Running off a Fiio e10.

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DT770

The DT770 is beyerdynamic’s answer to those who wanted a closed headphone with balanced sound with good isolation. It’s four versions are all good, but they have varying sound signatures. It has the most balanced sound amongst all three lines.

 

- 32Ohm

The 32Ohm model of the DT770 is closer sounding to the 250Ohm and 600Ohm models than it is to the 80Ohm model. The most striking difference is that they have far less bass than the 80Ohm model, but also are fuller sounding. The bass on the 32Ohm's is tight and controlled but rather light on impact. If I had to rate it's impact I would say it's like the DT880/250, but even less than those. The high while quite extended and detailed but has a slight edge to them, but not grating or strident sounding. All of the DT line (DT770-DT990) has a treble oriented sound, so the DT770 will emphasize this. Now the mids, while fuller than the 250Ohm and 80Ohm models, are there but still recessed to a degree. The mids are clear, detailed, and possess decent transparency. Now the soundstage is smaller than the 80Ohm and 250Ohm and has an "in your head" sound to it. The dynamics of this model seem slightly lower compared to the 250Ohm version, but it’s hard to tell.

 

Quite spot on description. Sadly for me. I should have just trusted your description.

Was shocked when I heard it...was expecting a bass can.My poor ears.

I can understand how if the bass will improve the mids will be quite recessed sounding. To my ears the treble is quite overpowering. It's more like Jaycars with more treble than my other bassier cans.To be honest to trebly to say it's truly balanced to my ears.

 

Suprisingly after the initial shock and acceptance,the highs are quite acceptable and the sound is not fatiguing at all. It lacks a good thump for EDM. But for regular music esspecially rock it's great.

 

What I seem to really notice is that's its quite detailed and very unforgiving. I can hear the quality of my MP3s. This is quite suprising to me. Why is this? With my other headphones I dont notice it...but with this..I seem to hear/notice every hiss, crackle in my mp3. 128bits has become obsolete.

 

 

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Very detailed comparison!

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- 32Ohm

Now the mids, while fuller than the 250Ohm and 80Ohm models, are there but still recessed to a degree.

 

- 80Ohm (PRO)

The mids are probably the fullest of the DT770 line up but still on the recessed side.

 

So how's that possible?

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Originally Posted by trubul View Post
 

- 32Ohm

Now the mids, while fuller than the 250Ohm and 80Ohm models, are there but still recessed to a degree.

 

- 80Ohm (PRO)

The mids are probably the fullest of the DT770 line up but still on the recessed side.

 

So how's that possible?

 

The sound signature of a particular DT770 is not directly related to which ohm version it is. What you're hearing is standard driver variance which can be pretty significant in the DT770. The 770/880/990 all use the same driver and my theory is that Beyer is using the least consistent drivers in the 770 because the other two models don't seem to differ nearly as much.

 

That said, some versions of the DT770 come with pleather pads rather than velour and that can potentially have a big impact on the sound. Also, the Premium versions of the DT770 (discontinued) have a lighter clamping force which can have an effect on the sound as well. But the ohm rating of your particular model is not an indicator of what sound signature it will have relative to other versions.

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Originally Posted by skyforger View Post
 

Would you say the dt770 pro 250 ohms have less clamp and overpowering bass than the 80 ohm version. I have had the 80 ohm version for a week now and after over 100 hours of burn in still don't like them. I just ordered the 250 ohm version to compare, really all I am looking for is a slight improvement in sound stage with less overpowering bass like the 80ohms have. Also the clamp is a deal breaker for me atm.

 

Running off a Fiio e10.

The Pro 80 and 250 is known to have boomy bass when amplified poorly.

 

The 250ohm version has a tighter clamp, and slightly less bass with perhaps a bit more fidelity in the mids and highs. It's a very small difference though and not worth owning both headphones. 

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Hi folks!

 

Just stumbled upon this thread, which pretty much is exactly what I was looking for, as I am really torn between DT 880 Edition and DT 990 Edition.

 

I will be gaming with them a lot, but also listen to metal(core) (several subgenres, power, progressive), (post)hardcore, hiphop and pop-punk.

 

I would have thought, the DT 990s would be my definitive choice, because of it's emphasis on bass - I heard both of them now and actually like them both :D

 

Couldn't play games with them yet though (and won't be able to, as I tested them in a shop), so I wanted to hear, whether any of you has experience with them in shooters like BF4 and open world games like Skyrim.

 

More specifically it would be good to know, how much of an advantage DT 990 has due to its larger soundstage. And will either one of them be better at picking up details ingame? I am not a competitive player but in multiplayer I'd still like to hear my enemies before ending up in front of them. While playing solo, immersion of course is more important.

 

 

Thank you very much for your time (especially investing it into reading my weird "German English") and advice, much appreciated :)

 

 

PS: I will definitely get the 600 ohm Version - and a FiiO E09K to go along with my X-Fi Titanium HD. Just wanted to state that, in case someone disagrees heaviliy :)

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I can't find comparison for HD 600 compared with DT 990 250 ohm pro. But I assume 250 ohm pro still better than HD 600 because:

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The DT990 beats out the HD600 in every department.

Anyway, I just wondering if DT 990 is a suitable can for rock music, compared to HD 600. And DT 990 is supposed to be brighter than HD 600 right? And what does it mean:
 

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 The treble on the DT990 would be a shock if you were coming from a HD600.

I'm a treble and detail fan... HD 600 kinda my end game but found interesting deal so I wondering if I should grab DT 990 250 ohm pro this week.

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All the Beyers have a characteristic peakiness in the treble range which can add as sense of "air" for some, but for others (like me) it's a bit too glaring. It will definitely feel very bright coming from an HD600, which has a rather downturned treble in comparison.

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Anyone on here own both a DT880/DT990 and either a T90 or T70?

If so, would you say that, underneath the pad, the metal,headbands were the same? I.e. Are they the same length and width?

I'd like to get a T90/T70 headband pad and put it on my DT880, but I'm not 100% sure it'll fit ...
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