[sebbaan]

I do indeed. The D7000s are more of a "fun" headphone. V-shaped, sparkly extended treble, slamming bass, easy to drive. The LCD-2 bass is far more refined, more separation across the board, more neutral and detailed. I do miss the sparkly treble a little with LCD-2s, but I'd rather have accuracy than exaggeration.

Definitely agree with you. I have the D2000 at work and although they are a very "fun sounding" pair of headphones I never seem to get over the feeling of getting home and slipping on my LCD 2F's. It's a feeling of everything falling in to place and sounding more like it was intended.

 

[sebbaan]

A recommendation for a recording that goes really well with the LCD 2F's, at least in my book, is Nils Lofgren's Acoustic Live. Listening to the solo on the track Some Must Dream should give nothing but goosebumps!

 

[Sound Eq]

do u think guys the el8 is as good as lcd2 pre fazor

 

[chua004]

The comfort of the HE-560 is superior to the LCD-2 at least for my gigantic dome (especially for the particularly heavy planars) . Hot spots on the headband have always been an issue for me and comfort is a huge part of headphone enjoyment.

 

[Bill-P]

do u think guys the el8 is as good as lcd2 pre fazor

I don't think that's the case at all.
 
EL-8 is positioned under LCD-2 w/ fazors, which I think is worse than non-fazor. Something about the new fazored models sounds a bit off to me. Not organic, not natural. Granted, there's more clarity, which is much needed with the LCD-2, but that clarity comes at the cost of a weird and confused soundstage, not as accurate/pin-point accurate as the non-fazor models.
 
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Anyway, agreed HE-560 is far more comfortable than LCD-2. If that's an important factor, I think HE-560 is a no-brainer choice over LCD-2.

 

[DivergeUnify]

I don't think that's the case at all.

EL-8 is positioned under LCD-2 w/ fazors, which I think is worse than non-fazor. Something about the new fazored models sounds a bit off to me. Not organic, not natural. Granted, there's more clarity, which is much needed with the LCD-2, but that clarity comes at the cost of a weird and confused soundstage, not as accurate/pin-point accurate as the non-fazor models.

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Anyway, agreed HE-560 is far more comfortable than LCD-2. If that's an important factor, I think HE-560 is a no-brainer choice over LCD-2.

I really want to hear a non fazored version. Until then I'll keep enjoying mine

 

[1974]

  The comfort of the HE-560 is superior to the LCD-2 at least for my gigantic dome (especially for the particularly heavy planars) . Hot spots on the headband have always been an issue for me and comfort is a huge part of headphone enjoyment.

 
Regarding comfort, I want to quote someone who has a lot of experience with the LCD range of headphones:
 
"I discovered a while back that it is possible to reduce the clamping force by bending the headband outward. The trick is that the headband gives most easily near the ear cups. If you grasp it in the middle and then on one ear cup, you can bend out that side. If on the other hand you grasp each ear cup and bend, it is very resilient and won't loosen up. You need to concentrate the bend on the portion of the headband right next to the ear cup. Be careful because the loosening is irreversible. I loosened my LCD-2 a little too much and now I can't get it tighter even when bending in the other direction. But you can carefully, gradually make it looser."
 
I tried this (after getting frustrated with comfort issues on my big head) and amazingly it did the trick, very comfy now. I also recently ordered the leather strap thing from Lohb which will hopefully alleviate headband hotspots and weight issues.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/754938/planar-pad-for-audeze-hifiman-fostex-t50-rp-modders
 
This advice should be a stickied somewhere because I see so many giving up on Audeze headphones because of comfort. Listening to my knowledgeable friend or reading tips within this thread have definitely increased my enjoyment with these wonderful headphones, and that I'm grateful for.

 

[DivergeUnify]

Regarding comfort, I want to quote someone who has a lot of experience with the LCD range of headphones:

"I discovered a while back that it is possible to reduce the clamping force by bending the headband outward. The trick is that the headband gives most easily near the ear cups. If you grasp it in the middle and then on one ear cup, you can bend out that side. If on the other hand you grasp each ear cup and bend, it is very resilient and won't loosen up. You need to concentrate the bend on the portion of the headband right next to the ear cup. Be careful because the loosening is irreversible. I loosened my LCD-2 a little too much and now I can't get it tighter even when bending in the other direction. But you can carefully, gradually make it looser."

I tried this (after getting frustrated with comfort issues on my big head) and amazingly it did the trick, very comfy now. I also recently ordered the leather strap thing from Lohb which will hopefully alleviate headband hotspots and weight issues.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/754938/planar-pad-for-audeze-hifiman-fostex-t50-rp-modders
 

This advice should be a stickied somewhere because I see so many giving up on Audeze headphones because of comfort. Listening to my knowledgeable friend or reading tips within this thread have definitely increased my enjoyment with these wonderful headphones, and that I'm grateful for.

I think it makes sense to do both. Flex the name from the center to both sides. And then flex from the center to each side independently. Mine now hold to my head without moving forward without squeezing the blood out of my head

 

[1974]

I think it makes sense to do both. Flex the name from the center to both sides. And then flex from the center to each side independently. Mine now hold to my head without moving forward without squeezing the blood out of my head

 
Yeah, whatever works for you. I personally couldn't get much joy from just bending the headband center. It's not until I started applying gentle but firm opposite direction pressure near the cups that the major comfort difference was made.

 

[joebobbilly]

Anyone here interested in trading a fazor LCD2 for a non-Fazor version? I have one that I'd like to trade... been curious bout the fazor sound. PM me if so.

 

[buson160man]

 I have had my audeze lcd2s for a couple of years . I have the old lcd2 v2 with the wood cable connectors . I upgraded the stock leash because I was disappointed in the performance  of the lcd2s . But after upgrading the headphone cable with a cable pro reverie upgrade cable I am much more pleased with my lcd2s these days. I never thought the lcd phones were very good at soundstage reproduction. But with the reverie cable the lcd2s definitely have soundstage . The reticent laid back top end of the lcd2 with the stock  leash has largely been ameliorated . Actually most of the shortcomings are due to the stock leash they supply with the headphone. My audezes sound amazing with the reverie cable they are very musical sounding these days . Recording after recording the beauty and tonal character are so much better. Recordings have never sounded this involving before and things sound much more dimensional as well. Anyone considering upgrading the stock leash should consider the cable pro reverie audeze headphone cable upgrade . While it is hardly inexpensive the improvement in the sound quality is noticeably large . You will definitely not be disappointed.

 

[ShadowProject]

Though I would invade this thread for an opinion. I am think of upgrading from my M100s (with XL pads) to a set of headphones. Currently, I only amp my headphones via Fiio E12 but my logic is that I would rather buy higher end headphones and build the DAC and amp behind them! Would the LCD 2.2 be a good upgrade for me, using the E12 amp for starters? I love the bass representation of the M100s and from what I have read the LCD 2.2's also have a rather nice bass extension which will have me begging for more!

 

[x RELIC x]

Though I would invade this thread for an opinion. I am think of upgrading from my M100s (with XL pads) to a set of headphones. Currently, I only amp my headphones via Fiio E12 but my logic is that I would rather buy higher end headphones and build the DAC and amp behind them! Would the LCD 2.2 be a good upgrade for me, using the E12 amp for starters? I love the bass representation of the M100s and from what I have read the LCD 2.2's also have a rather nice bass extension which will have me begging for more!

Easily an upgrade from the m-100. Without a doubt. I have both.

With the e12 I recommend using high gain and if the bass isn't enough you can use the bass boost. The m-100 bass amount is ridiculous and more than the LCD-2 in quantity. However, the LCD-2 bass is cleaner and extends lower without bleeding in to the midrange like the m-100. Listen to the LCD-2 for a while and then go back to the m-100 and you'll clearly hear the differences.

Overall the LCD-2 slaughters the m-100.

 

[bassboysam]

 I have had my audeze lcd2s for a couple of years . I have the old lcd2 v2 with the wood cable connectors . I upgraded the stock leash because I was disappointed in the performance  of the lcd2s . But after upgrading the headphone cable with a cable pro reverie upgrade cable I am much more pleased with my lcd2s these days. I never thought the lcd phones were very good at soundstage reproduction. But with the reverie cable the lcd2s definitely have soundstage . The reticent laid back top end of the lcd2 with the stock  leash has largely been ameliorated . Actually most of the shortcomings are due to the stock leash they supply with the headphone. My audezes sound amazing with the reverie cable they are very musical sounding these days . Recording after recording the beauty and tonal character are so much better. Recordings have never sounded this involving before and things sound much more dimensional as well. Anyone considering upgrading the stock leash should consider the cable pro reverie audeze headphone cable upgrade . While it is hardly inexpensive the improvement in the sound quality is noticeably large . You will definitely not be disappointed.

if you have wood connectors then I believe that is a Rev1 not a Rev 2.

 

[buson160man]

if you have wood connectors then I believe that is a Rev1 not a Rev 2.

  Al I know is that after I replaced the stock leash the sound of my lcd2s improved very noticeably. After I upgraded the cable to the cable pro reverie all of my lcd2s shortcomings were ameliorated.
The stock leash really holds the lcd2 headphone back and not  by just a little amount.  With a cable upgrade the lcd2 really reveals its performance capabilities it sounds enormously better with a cable upgrade.