[myap2328]

When we say Bass, its still a very broad term… What kind of Bass you're up to? What Genre you most played/listen?

Electronic, Pop, Metal and Classical but midbass is important for my electronic music.

 

[knights]

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Electronic, Pop, Metal and Classical but midbass is important for my electronic music.

Thats a very diverse genres… i think you need to audition them… If you ask me, id go for LCD2 only for classical… But for electronic and Pop, its the HE500… 

 

[myap2328]

Thats a very diverse genres… i think you need to audition them… If you ask me, id go for LCD2 only for classical… But for electronic and Pop, its the HE500… 

Not sure if I said but I have done some auditioning with a lot of cans. And after rounding up those that are even worthy for a second listen, my next criteria was bass. In the end, te LCD-2's bass impact was stellar but the quantity was meagre. I can say that I may be happy with it but I was using a 5000 pounds Amp/Dac system and I'm assuming when I use it with a not-so-great system, the impact would not be that good.

I have heard that the he-500 is for those who find the LCD-2 too bloomy in bass.

Thanks anyways for those who have helped me but there was a recent addition to my local store which may just solve my problem. Can't wait to get my hands on a JVC DX-2000 (Cosmetic Upgrade frm the DX1k) for an audition.

 

[knights]

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Not sure if I said but I have done some auditioning with a lot of cans. And after rounding up those that are even worthy for a second listen, my next criteria was bass. In the end, te LCD-2's bass impact was stellar but the quantity was meagre. I can say that I may be happy with it but I was using a 5000 pounds Amp/Dac system and I'm assuming when I use it with a not-so-great system, the impact would not be that good.

I have heard that the he-500 is for those who find the LCD-2 too bloomy in bass.

Thanks anyways for those who have helped me but there was a recent addition to my local store which may just solve my problem. Can't wait to get my hands on a JVC DX-2000 (Cosmetic Upgrade frm the DX1k) for an audition.

im curious with the term you use… What is bloomy for you? 
When you said "Impact" is it the kick of midbass like the slam of drums? I was suggesting LCD2 for classical because i find the bass to be lighter-weighted, its so natural and well-bodied. The HE500's are more textured but with better impact…

 

[LugBug1]

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im curious with the term you use… What is bloomy for you? 
When you said "Impact" is it the kick of midbass like the slam of drums? I was suggesting LCD2 for classical because i find the bass to be lighter-weighted, its so natural and well-bodied. The HE500's are more textured but with better impact…

Yeah I'd say so too. The HE500's have a slight mid bass hump that comes across better with electronic music. 
 
Also myap2328, there's no reason why you couldn't equalize the bass on either of the orthos to add a bit more.   

 

[PinkLed]

I think when I'm looking at the LCD-2, I take audio seriously, the dt770 sounded horrible. Nothing can sound worse than the hd650, that's like my bar of standard.

 
Just get the LCD2. I had purchased the HD 650 from amazon back in December. Used them for a month and really felt like the bass was lacking. The day my LCD 2 arrived at my doorstep the HD 650's were back in the box and returned. I felt this way even without burn in on the LCD 2. Now 5 months later the bass has enhanced drastically and with a nice tube amp your going to be in bass-head heaven. When your spending this kind of money on headphones (orthos) I dont think you can go wrong with either the HE 500 or LCD 2.
 
Knights, im diging the chaos knight icon!

 

[Dubstep Girl]

i like the HE-500 the most for electronic and pop music, has nice midbass. the TH600/Denon D7000 would have tons of sub-bass much more than any of that others, but be more lacking in the midbass. the LCD-2 has the highest quality bass out of the 3, good midbass, deep deep sub-bass but its very controlled and you may find it light depending on the music. the HE-500 has a bit more punch than LCD-2, but doesn't have quite the same extension. 

 

[PinkLed]

i like the HE-500 the most for electronic and pop music, has nice midbass. the TH600/Denon D7000 would have tons of sub-bass much more than any of that others, but be more lacking in the midbass. the LCD-2 has the highest quality bass out of the 3, good midbass, deep deep sub-bass but its very controlled and you may find it light depending on the music. the HE-500 has a bit more punch than LCD-2, but doesn't have quite the same extension. 

 
From what i've seen by peoples opinion in terms of just sound quality, extension and accurate reproduction, headphones (the ones you have [size=10.909090995788574px]Beyer T1/LCD-2 rev.2/HD 800/HE-500[/size]) seem to be priced on that basis pretty fairly. Do you agree?

 

[Dubstep Girl]

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From what i've seen by peoples opinion in terms of just sound quality, extension and accurate reproduction, headphones (the ones you have [size=10.909090995788574px]Beyer T1/LCD-2 rev.2/HD 800/HE-500[/size]) seem to be priced on that basis pretty fairly. Do you agree?

 
hmmm... yeah i agree. 
 
except the HE-500 should be priced closer to the LCD-2, the old price of 899 seems to be justified for its performance, though some people might still find it overpriced. perhaps 799 would be a better price. the HE-500 is just a slight small step below the LCD-2. and the HD 800 is slightly better than T1, though it takes alot to get it there, and i still prefer the T1 for alot of things just due to its musicality and well balanced performance. even though the prices seem to suggest that one is better than the other, and that is kinda true, i still think they're pretty close to each other just cause some do things better than others. 

 

[myap2328]

hmmm... yeah i agree. 

except the HE-500 should be priced closer to the LCD-2, the old price of 899 seems to be justified for its performance, though some people might still find it overpriced. perhaps 799 would be a better price. the HE-500 is just a slight small step below the LCD-2. and the HD 800 is slightly better than T1, though it takes alot to get it there, and i still prefer the T1 for alot of things just due to its musicality and well balanced performance. even though the prices seem to suggest that one is better than the other, and that is kinda true, i still think they're pretty close to each other just cause some do things better than others. 

So the denons and fosters reigns supreme in subbass, LCD-2 is awesome for its punch and tightness, he-500 for yummy delicious weighty midbass (how is the impact/punch?). Am I right?

 

[Nishy]

Hi,
 
Yes, I think HD800 is clearer, wider soundstage, more separation than LCD3 for classical (own both and HE-6, also clearer than LCD3 significantly but both are poorer in bass than LCD3). I think the LCD3 treble cut off is lower than HD800 and certainly the HE-6...
 
For classical probably the Beyerdynamic T1 (which I have not heard yet) is the way to go (certainly its small sister DT 1350 at a completely different price point is superb for portable classical...kind of clearer than LCD3!). Note that some headfier also said that LCD3 is much better at handling smaller combos of instruments than big band/orchestral assortment...I can't verify that as yet.
 
This is not to be downbeat about the LCD3. Personally for classical, I'd choose HE-6 (or HD800) over LCD3 for sure - more lively cleaner classical sound. That said LCD3 has a slightly smoother mellower recessed sound on listening to Wiener Philharmonic's New Year Concert etc.

 

[Dubstep Girl]

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So the denons and fosters reigns supreme in subbass, LCD-2 is awesome for its punch and tightness, he-500 for yummy delicious weighty midbass (how is the impact/punch?). Am I right?

 
yeah basically.
 
the impact/punch is more on HE-500 than LCD-2, by a little bit, sometimes the LCD-2 hits harder in some of the bass regions however, mostly due to the more extended and controlled bass, it also sometimes seems to have more bass slam. they're pretty close though. 

 

[jibzilla]

  i like the HE-500 the most for electronic and pop music, has nice midbass. the TH600/Denon D7000 would have tons of sub-bass much more than any of that others, but be more lacking in the midbass. the LCD-2 has the highest quality bass out of the 3, good midbass, deep deep sub-bass but its very controlled and you may find it light depending on the music. the HE-500 has a bit more punch than LCD-2, but doesn't have quite the same extension. 

 

[bigshuse]

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I think it depends what genre of electronic you listen to. For drum and bass I actually prefer a sub-bass hump more than a mid-bass hump. The th-600 also has a more linear bass note than the d7k as well. Still more sub-bassy than mid-bassy but they're closer together now imo. Deep, deep sub-bass out of the lcd-2's but it's recessed. 

I've always wanted to hear the d7k. The LCD2 has been my go-to for electronic for a while, but I always like hearing other presentations.

 

[jibzilla]

 
I've always wanted to hear the d7k. The LCD2 has been my go-to for electronic for a while, but I always like hearing other presentations.