[vlach]

The true is the T1s are more all-rounder headphones than the HD800, IMO.

Agree. I love the HD800 for large scale orchestra classical music, T1 for almost everything else.

 

[GardenVariety]

   
My Master-6 is an even more transparent amp, yet I am hearing nothing that I don't like about the HD800's. I hear none of the issues DutchGFX has with the Soloist.
 
Compared to the Soloist the M6 with the HD800's give a much more dynamic fuller sound. Bass is deeper, fuller and tighter with greater punch.
 
The Soloist sounded anemic and boring in comparison which matches DutchGFX's comments.

Ok, well I haven't heard that amp so I won't comment. I will, however, say that the Soloist is a very transparent amp with the highest build quality. It's more than capable of amplifying both the HD800's and T1's. I have to admit that the system I use automatically EQ's my headphones to a flat response by placing microphones in my ears. Because of that I may be hearing different T1's than the rest.

 

[PTom]

What's a good setup for the T1 without having to break the bank?
 
Any of these good enough:
 
DAC:
 
- ODAC
- Modi
- Anything from Audio GD
- Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus
 
Amps:
 
- O2
- Schiit Magni/Vali
- Little Dot MK3/MK4 

 

[pdrm360]

Every time I put on the T1, I shock how much they offer clarity and details, even after listening to the HD800.

 

[elvergun]

  Every time I put on the T1, I shock how much they offer clarity and details, even after listening to the HD800.

 
The two are not that far apart.  The HD800 is just a little better, so I kept the Sennheiser.   I'm not so sure that little difference is worth $509 (the difference in price at Amazon right now).

 

[pdrm360]

   
The two are not that far apart.  The HD800 is just a little better, so I kept the Sennheiser.   I'm not so sure that little difference is worth $509 (the difference in price at Amazon right now).

 
30% difference in the price makes sense to me. 

 

[Andrew_WOT]

 

   
The two are not that far apart.  The HD800 is just a little better, so I kept the Sennheiser.   I'm not so sure that little difference is worth $509 (the difference in price at Amazon right now).

 
30% difference in the price makes sense to me. 

Pretty accurate reflection of performance if you ask me.

 

[DutchGFX]

Yeah the T1 I just think gives better separation and clarity in my complex metal pieces, while the HD800 is really actually a bit more laid back i feel, while the vocals may be more forward I think the T1 has a harder impact, and being a youngster (17) I think the agression pairs well with what young ears like to hear. Just my $.02 I have placed my HD800 for sale, I think I might want a new DAC, maybe the W4S DAC-2, we shall see. I also finally fixed my Ventus EZ amp, I upped the gain from Unity to 4x, so now it sounds amazing with the T1, I might even actually sell the Soloist because the amp is so good quite frankly.
 
EDIT: need to change resitors again, I'm pushing the OPAMP to much I believe, I will keep the same gain but gonna lower resistances to it doesn't need to output as much.

 

[leng jai]

  Pretty accurate reflection of performance if you ask me.

 
If you don't take build quality into account at all perhaps.

 

[perhapss]

Love my T1 but a removable cable should be part of the package IMO.

 

[GardenVariety]

   
If you don't take build quality into account at all perhaps.

I agree. The build quality is much better on the T1. You shouldn't be able to easily flex the material on the outside of a headphone. If the HD800 is any better, it's no more than 5-10%. 

 

[leng jai]

  Love my T1 but a removable cable should be part of the package IMO.

 
Yeah, a strange oversight for such an expensive headphone. 
 

  I agree. The build quality is much better on the T1. You shouldn't be able to easily flex the material on the outside of a headphone. If the HD800 is any better, it's no more than 5-10%. 

 
Yeah, the build quality of the T1s are insane and overlooked for some reason.

 

[billerb1]

  Love my T1 but a removable cable should be part of the package IMO.

No kiddin' !!!!!!

 

[perhapss]

   
Yeah, a strange oversight for such an expensive headphone. 
 
 

 
Well for me it's even stranger that I don't think it's an oversight at all.
Everything is meticulously designed on the T1 so why would they plan it that way?

 

[Loquah]

I tend to agree. They chose a great cable, great connector, and good strain reliefs so why make it interchangeable? I like to be able to change cables, but only if the original one is a performance bottleneck (which the T1's isn't ) especially because it's so easy to re-terminate for balanced use.