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List of DACs that work with iPad

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NOTICE:  Since the more recent OS upgrades allow most DACs to work*, I'm not planning on trying to keep this table updated.  However, there is still lots of good discussion continuing in the thread, so read on!

 

* Many of the DACs do require external power, so some people define "work" as "work *without* external power" and some allow the supply of external power (like from an USB hub).

 

 

As discussed in other threads, the Apple iPad can output audio to some external USB DAC using the Camera Connection Kit.  Here is a list of what works and what doesn't. 

 

Note, there are some restrictions on what is supported.  Here are some tidbits lifted from this discussion:

 

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                        USB-Audio 1.0 class specification only supporting full speed

 

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                        > 4) I take it that self powered Class 1 Audio devices could be 
> connected directly to the the Camera Connection Kit?

if they draw less than 100mA, otherwise you need a powered hub.

 

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                        > 2) Will standard Feature items like Volume and Mute be included?

yes, assuming that the audio topology is not too complicated

 

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                                        > Paul devices that require device drivers (i.e. M-Audio Transit) 
> would not be considered a Class 1 compliant device.

correct. we aren't support custom drivers at this point.

 

 

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                        > 5) Would sample rates be limited to 32, 44.1, 48 @ 16 bits or 
> would high res devices to 24/96 (Class 1 top end) be supported?

at the moment we only support 16bit (and the device needs to 
be in that mode before it is connected). We are planning on 
supporting 24bit in the future. Sample rate is an interesting 
issue.. up to 48kHz is already supported cleanly. If you want 
more than that, you should file a feature request (bug report). 

 

From a practical perspective, this suggests you want a 16-bit DAC that can run from batteries (disable charging circuit), or you power externally (like using a USB hub).

 

But, let's see what really works and what doesn't.  Please contribute to this list by noting what you have found that does and what does not work in this thread.

 

Also, note issues and workarounds you may have employed.

 

Thanks,

 

-john

 

 

[ Last update 11/28/2010 ]

 

Confirmed works

- Nuforce uDAC [Skylab, Headphoneaddict, uofmtiger, torcik; BryanP reports too much power error]

- DacMagic [uofmtiger]

- Xitel Pro Hifi-Link [deadie]

- Predator [jc9394, HeadphoneAddict] (have to put the volume to 100%)

- iBasso D4 [Headphoneaddict (see post #59)]

- iBasso D1 [trickywombat]

- iBasso D3 [hypoicon]

- iBasso D10 [qusp - doesn't work; HeadphoneAddict (see post #59), rhw - works (charging off)]

- iBasso D12 [dsissitka]

- Pico DAC [Headphoneaddict, warp08]

- Micro II usb/digital [kredmore]

- Headroom Total BitHead [qin]

- Headroom Desktop Portable amp w/DAC [muski]

- TTVJ Portable w/DAC [grawk]

- TTVJ Slim DAC/Amp [gopack87]

- Fiio E7 [Jack-Micca, feiao]

- C&C F1U USB DAC/Amp [phytonix]

- Meier Corda Symphony DAC/Amp [Noumenon]

- Little Dot Dac1 [uofmtiger]

- devilsound v2.1 dac [decur]

- Music Hall DAC 25.2 [Skylab]

- Vivid Technologies V1 USB DAC HD AMP [ccklone]
- Valab NOS USB DAC [ccklone]
- Aune USB DAC/AMP [ccklone]

- Sigtone h1 - without any trouble [rhw]

- USB monica NOS DAC - no problems [rhw]

- DACport (works after flash update, needs external power plugged in) [HeadphoneAddict, shigzeo]

- HA Info NG Coax USB to SPDIF Converter [rhw]

- maverick audio D1 [Mavwong]

- Keces DA-151 USB DAC [maogua]

- Hot Audio DAC Extasy (plug USB cable into DAC and Camera Kit First, then into iPad) [grokit]

- HA NG98 [roymor]

- Firestone Libby (headphone amp) and DAC [shigzeo]

- Firestone Rubby (power amp) and DAC [shigzeo]

- Musical Fildelity V-DAC [Dwaalspoor98]

- Buffalo32S [erd]

- Headroom Desktop Amp [Durandal]

- PS Audio DAC Link III [DjAmTraX]

- Little Dot DAC mk II [alysony]

- 3MOVE [HeadphoneAddict - see post 59 for instructions]

- XM5 [HeadphoneAddict - see post 59 for instructions]

- Vivid Audio Tech V1 [HeadphoneAddict]

- nuForce Icon Mobile [yukster doesn't work; HeadphoneAddict - works, see post #59 for instructions]

- Beresford 7520 [Bazzman]

- Project USB Box [Bazzman]

 

Issues(?):

- Headphonia DAC cable [qc98, shigzeo - works; utdeep - works but seems "lifeless"]

- PopPulse PCM 1796 DAC [rhw - first an error message, but after reconnection works fine]

 

Doesn't work

- MobilePre (legacy) [porieux]

- iQube V2 portable [Skylab]

- Yulong D100 home DAC [Skylab]

- PWD [jc9394]

- uDAC-2 [headphoneaddict]

- Hot Audio DAC-Extacy USB DAC [ccklone - dialog box;too much power]

- M2 Hiface USB stick [ccklone - not really a DAC, but didn't work feeding a "known good" DAC]

- Superpro 707 USB [jankovic]

- Soundprime de-jitter box/DAC (24/96) [shigzeo; WORKS with iOS 4.2! - shigzeo]

 

POWER WORKAROUND:  A number of people have noted that a simple workaround to DACs that draw too much power is to plug into a powered USB hub.


Edited by ccfoodog - 4/6/11 at 7:28pm
post #2 of 860

Thanks for putting this together!

post #3 of 860

I believe warp08 can confirm that both the Hifiman HM-801 and HM-602 work.

post #4 of 860

Excellent! Good work, ccfoodog.

post #5 of 860

Thanks, subscribed!

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I'm not sure if this is useful information, but if you use the uDAC to convert the USB out to Coax, that does work with the Yulong D100 (although I suppose in that scenario it would work with basically any DAC with a coax input).

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Thread Starter 

 

Anyone try one of these to see if they can bypass power draw issues?

 

  http://www.ritzcamera.com/product/EP36595480.htm

 

-john

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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post

I'm not sure if this is useful information, but if you use the uDAC to convert the USB out to Coax, that does work with the Yulong D100 (although I suppose in that scenario it would work with basically any DAC with a coax input).


I would think that if it will work with one of them as a s/pdif converter, then it will work with any of them.

post #9 of 860
Thread Starter 

Although, it doesn't appear to work with the M2 Hiface USB stick.  Would be good if we could get more data points.

 

-john

post #10 of 860
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Originally Posted by ccfoodog View Post

Although, it doesn't appear to work with the M2 Hiface USB stick.  Would be good if we could get more data points.

 

-john


I was referring to the uDac being used as a s/pdif converter. I don't really see how the uDac could be used with the HiFace in any scenario, as the uDac doesn't have a coaxial input, and the HiFace isn't a DAC.


Edited by grokit - 8/18/10 at 1:39pm
post #11 of 860
Thread Starter 

Oh, I thought you mean that any USB to SPDIF converter should work.  You meant you should be able to run any DAC  driven by the SPDIF output of the uDAC, eh?

 

-john

post #12 of 860

That's right, any DAC with a coaxial input. Same with the HiFace in any scenario as s/pdif is it's only I/O function.


Edited by grokit - 8/18/10 at 4:19pm
post #13 of 860
Thread Starter 

Some additions.  Moved the D10 to "works" since another report of it working.

post #14 of 860

ccfoodog, great work. I suggest moving "DACport (works after flash update) [HeadphoneAddict]" to the Confirmed Works list. Just leave in the annotation about the required flash upgrade.

post #15 of 860

Great thread thanks!!!!

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