[music_4321]

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I am 100% sure that Shure would never say the above eBay listing is legit. This has been confirmed by Jude, Head-fi founder & administrator, who says the above listing looks quite suspicious

Also, the person recommending this seller has no credibility at all here in Head-fi

EDIT: The eBay seller also changed item description yesterday and has added:

"I will increase price to $340 when stocks arrive. Hurry up and get one now!"
 

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it seems to me your always looking for a reason to call it "suspicious fake etc just because the price is a steal doesn't mean its a copy

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Jude, our main Head-fi administrator, has already stated the listing looks quite suspicious and I believe he sent you and somebody else a private message regarding your sale.
 
BTW, I never said they're fakes. My suspicions are of a different nature, which may be as bad or worse than selling fakes..

Seems the very suspicious eBay listing has ended (today) abruptly, much sooner that the 30 days originally intended to last. The 'seller' apparently sold 4 of the 30 sets he said he was getting from this so-called family friend in China. I wonder if those 4 buyers - if they are real buyers - will get their sets in the not so distant future.

 

[jaredalv]

@music - do you find that the um3x's add a bit of bass to, for instance, voices? Or say piano hammers? I use those two examples again only because I was listening to some jazz (old-school) and noticed this. Wondering if that was only my impression or if that's what others hear as well.

I work in sound reinforcement as well in my local church (400 seat congregation) and in eq'ing the voices we're always conscious of not amplifying frequencies that are not naturally there, ie the lower-mids. The goal is to simply make the voice louder, not different than it would normally be.

So anyway, that was my perspective on the two. Obviously others hear and appreciate differently. And thanks for being a rational, cool opinion in the often frustrating world of forum posting.

Happy listening,
Jared

 
 
There was a time when I suppose you could say I was a musician - played guitar & bass guitar - and I have to say I find the UM3X's bass closer to where it "is supposed to be" than the SE535's bass.
 
I used to have a 160GB iPod Classic and occasionally I'd use its EQ, but always felt it added a very slight amount of distortion; perhaps the iPhone's EQ is better than the Classic's? My Sony X has an excellent 5-band EQ -- to me certainly better than the iPod Classic's EQ -- and 2 custom settings on top of the usual Jazz, Pop... I tried EQ'ing the SE535 with my Sony X to bring out the bass and lower the highs and got good results but, call me a purist if you like, I prefer a flat EQ 98% of the time. With the SM3s I had to EQ them a lot more to get a more convincing (to these ears) sound, though it never quite got there.
 
I totally agree with you and did say so before: the SE535 looks better - maybe even MUCH better - than the UM3X, has more solid build quality and this alone would appeal to (many) more people. I remain convinced, though, that on purely SQ terms the UM3X would appeal to more people, and NOT necessarily bass-heads.
 
To me personally microphonics AND flexibility are (quite) important, and as beautiful and high-end as the SE535 cable seemed, it just wasn't right for my needs on those two aspects.
 
And yes, it's been said here many times already that people prefer different things, it's very true -- glad you did find the IEM for you. The SE535 is a very good IEM, no question about that.

 

[Young Spade]

I'm happy to say that I should be receiving my IEMs later this week. I have read a lot of great things about then so I'm extremely excited to finally get them. 

 

[MacedonianHero]

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I'm happy to say that I should be receiving my IEMs later this week. I have read a lot of great things about then so I'm extremely excited to finally get them. 

Hey congrats! For my money, they are my favourite universal IEM and fixed the three issues I had with the SE530s:
 
1.) Better construction.
2.) Treble no longer "rolled off"
3.) Sound stage is better
 
Looking forward to your thoughts!

 

[Young Spade]

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Hey congrats! For my money, they are my favourite universal IEM and fixed the three issues I had with the SE530s:
 
1.) Better construction.
2.) Treble no longer "rolled off"
3.) Sound stage is better
 
Looking forward to your thoughts!

Yea I'm definitely excited. I've had the Triples, UM3Xs, and ER4Ss as IEMs and the K702s before these . I've read a lot about them so I know I'm going to love the sig; But they're going to get a lot of use during the walks between classes. 

 

[MacedonianHero]

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Yea I'm definitely excited. I've had the Triples, UM3Xs, and ER4Ss as IEMs and the K702s before these . I've read a lot about them so I know I'm going to love the sig; But they're going to get a lot of use during the walks between classes. 

Funny, I've owned all of those in the past and prefer the SE535s to them all.
 

 

[Young Spade]

Good to hear. Care to give me a little info on why? There were all great things that I liked about them too; soundstage/air of the Triples; instrument separation, detail, and power of the UM3Xs....

 

[MacedonianHero]

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Good to hear. Care to give me a little info on why? There were all great things that I liked about them too; soundstage/air of the Triples; instrument separation, detail, and power of the UM3Xs....

The best mids out there with flat neutral bass and great treble. And indestructible IEMs that you don't have to worry too much about.

 

[Young Spade]

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The best mids out there with flat neutral bass and great treble. And indestructible IEMs that you don't have to worry too much about.

 
Good to hear. I'll chime in with my opinions/impressions when I get the headphones. 

 

[ryan.d]

anyone knows what is the lowest price for these IEMs now?

 

[Young Spade]

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anyone knows what is the lowest price for these IEMs now?

Earphone solutions along with a coupon gets them for you in the lower 400s. 

 

[ryan.d]

Thanks~
But Site15 doesn't seems to work anymore, at least for me. Is there a new coupon?
 
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Earphone solutions along with a coupon gets them for you in the lower 400s. 

 

[frustin]

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Both are amazing IEMs. The Shure's have a balanced / neutral presentation and the best mids I've heard on IEMs (and among the best for full sized headphones). The Westone 3s are more fun IEMs with really strong bass, slightly recessed mids and sparkling treble.
 
Sound stage wise, I find them the same. So it depends on what you want, neutral or fun.

What does "fun" and "neural", mean?
 

 

[Young Spade]

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What does "fun" and "neural", mean?
 

Fun is a term used when people are describing a headphone that is somewhat colored, having emphasis mostly in the treble and bass regions. They are "fun" because they make the music sound exciting, loud, and clean, which is great for electronic, rap, hip hop, etc. 
 
Neutral meaning it's more of a flatter frequency response, it doesn't go "up" and accentuate much nor does it dip low and cut some part off. 
 
Of course these things aren't.... always easy to identify and it takes some first hand experience to really understand what people are meaning when they say that, a fun headphone can range from a Grado model to a... Triple.Fi 10 to an IE8 depending on what the person is comparing it to.
 
An example of a "neutral" phone would be Shure SE535, SM3, ER4S. These types of phones normally aren't called "fun" because they portray the music "true to life' to some extent; it doesn't have that extra "sparkle" that naturally... ins't there. Now that doesn't mean the music doesn't have sparkle, these phones bring out the best in every part of the music, so depending on the genre/quality you're going to have different levels of "fun".
 
I dont' know if the latter half of this confused more than helped, but they are just some examples I picked up over the years. There's a glossary around here with pretty much all of the words people use here in it. 

 

[MacedonianHero]

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Fun is a term used when people are describing a headphone that is somewhat colored, having emphasis mostly in the treble and bass regions. They are "fun" because they make the music sound exciting, loud, and clean, which is great for electronic, rap, hip hop, etc. 
 
Neutral meaning it's more of a flatter frequency response, it doesn't go "up" and accentuate much nor does it dip low and cut some part off. 
 
Of course these things aren't.... always easy to identify and it takes some first hand experience to really understand what people are meaning when they say that, a fun headphone can range from a Grado model to a... Triple.Fi 10 to an IE8 depending on what the person is comparing it to.
 
An example of a "neutral" phone would be Shure SE535, SM3, ER4S. These types of phones normally aren't called "fun" because they portray the music "true to life' to some extent; it doesn't have that extra "sparkle" that naturally... ins't there. Now that doesn't mean the music doesn't have sparkle, these phones bring out the best in every part of the music, so depending on the genre/quality you're going to have different levels of "fun".
 
I dont' know if the latter half of this confused more than helped, but they are just some examples I picked up over the years. There's a glossary around here with pretty much all of the words people use here in it. 

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What he said...thanks!