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post #1 of 59
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***DISCLAIMER***These are my initial impressions and I'll update this once I spend more time listening and comparing.***DISCLAIMER***

I joined head-fi a long time ago. While I might not have been among the very first, I have been here a long, long time.

When I joined I already had a portable rig. In fact, I had two. One consisted of a mini CD player and some Coby earbuds. My main rig consisted of an RCA Lyra player with a whopping 256MB flash card and those same Coby earbuds. I was happy. My father, who has always loved music, gifted me a pair of Sony earbuds that were a clear upgrade to those Coby buds. I was really happy. I then upgraded to one of the first Zen players with a HUGE 20GB drive and those same Sony buds.

When I got a job, I was finally able to afford an iPod...again...with those awesome Sony buds. Soon after, I joined head-fi. The Sony buds became Shure E3's and my journey continued and climaxed with my portable rig consisting of a RSA Hornet, UE-10's, an ALO Cotton LOD and my iPOD 5.5G.

Five years later and my iPOD is dying out on me. It stalls and sometimes, doesn't play music at all. I was sad. The economy isn't exactly welcoming me to buy a nice new iTouch 64GB model or anything else that's rather fancy. Thus I started from square one and began doing my research. I wanted a player with decent battery life (6 - 10 hours minimum), portable, that could play FLAC and above all - that had great sound quality.

My research landed me with several contenders and I managed to try out a few of them over the past few weeks. After much going back and forth I decided upon a Sansa.

But which one?

The Fuze was a clear winner. Nice battery life, it can play FLAC, great sound quality, video capability was nice, nice UI. However, I didn't really need the video function as I rarely used it on my iPod 5.5G. Enter..The Clip+. Same sound quality...tiny form factor...awesome portability...awesome sound...decent battery life...AWESOME!

I purchased my Clip+ based upon my needs and mostly based upon the sound quality. Being a cheapskate, I opted for the cheapest shipping price and began to wait.

During the wait ROCKBOX became available for the Clip+. I began to read about it while patiently waiting for my Clip+.

Yesterday, my Clip+ arrived and I immediately Rockboxed it, configured it...listened to it...configured it some more and listened some more. Installed DFKT's theme and continued to tweak and listen.

The result looks just like DFTK's:

http://anythingbutipod.com/images/fo...s/_MG_9684.jpg


The verdict...perfection. The sound quality with FLAT EQ is just fantastic. With a little EQ, it's absolute perfection for me. The interface now plays all the major codecs I use, it has cuesheet support and even some cool little games. While the Rockbox firmware is far from final, it's rather good at this point in time.

If you're looking for a perfect little DAP that is portable, easy to use and that has amazing sound quality, don't hesitate to get a Clip+. I had high expectations but this little player has exceeded them all.

If any of you would like my custom settings for a Rockbox'd Clip+, PM me and I'll fill you in.
post #2 of 59
Hi LFF, I had my mind set on buying a westone 2 as an upgrade to Klipsch X10 IEM, which until now I considered the best I have heard regrading portable audio. I'm far from being an audiophile but love music, and quite new to this amazing and exciting IEM world!! (kudos to Head-fi!!)
Well, after reading your review I made my mind on purchasing DBA-02 from Fischer Audio. I wonder if switching from Ipod 5 gen to Sansa Cilp+ would give an improvement soundwise!!
thank you very much!
Jose
post #3 of 59
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Hi Jose,
I find that the Sansa Clip+ does indeed sound better than any iPod. However, to get it to sound it's best you will need to Rockbox it and I would recommend an amp as well.

The DBA-02 will definitely show you the differences between equipment set-ups. It's a fantastic IEM.
post #4 of 59
Awesome!!
I'm totally noob about portable amps. Any recommendation on the cheap side for initiation? thanks in advance
Jose
post #5 of 59

is rockbox stable on clip+ ? site notes that usb isnt running?

http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS

 

@jose

cheapest but useable headphone amp is: Fiio E5 -> later DIY opamp based candy amp's aka CMOY (could be found on ebay) and so on... depends on your budget


Edited by KaraSinek - 7/28/10 at 2:08pm
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LFF, why would not you post your settings here in the thread? I am curious how the SQ can be improved with the Rockbox, but I have some doubts if this is possible. So I'd like to get a picture before I will bother with Rockboxing. Please.
 

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If any of you would like my custom settings for a Rockbox'd Clip+, PM me and I'll fill you in.
post #7 of 59
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Originally Posted by kostalex View Post

LFF, why would not you post your settings here in the thread? I am curious how the SQ can be improved with the Rockbox, but I have some doubts if this is possible. So I'd like to get a picture before I will bother with Rockboxing. Please.

 

The main adeded feature (AFAIK) is Rockbox gives you tons of EQ options.


Edited by violinvirtuoso - 8/5/10 at 7:10am
post #8 of 59
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The setting I initially talked about were before Rockbox came out with write support. You guys no longer need my settings. Trust me on that.

post #9 of 59

So, does Rockbox improved Clip+ SQ?

post #10 of 59
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So, does Rockbox improved Clip+ SQ?


I believe it does. With all the features it has, you can tailor it to sound fantastic according to your specific sound signature preferences.

post #11 of 59
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I believe it does. With all the features it has, you can tailor it to sound fantastic according to your specific sound signature preferences.


Agreed 100%.

post #12 of 59

Been using my Fuze with Rockbox for months now. Good synergy with T4 and PK1. I wonder if Clip+ will produce the same if not better SQ.

 

Kostalex, TM5 is again available in their website. I believe you're the right person to ask about earbuds SQ. Do you think going from PK1 to TM5 will be a big leap? I'm still confused whether to buy because it's very expensive ($195 with shipping). Need your advice. Thanks.

 

post #13 of 59
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If you want some awesome buds for your Fuze look no further than the Fischer Audio DBA-02. Bugden Audio has them on special until the 5th and they are well under your budget.

post #14 of 59

I dunno...perfect is an awful strong adjective.  I finally bit the bullet and bought an HM-801, and while I love it to pieces, I don't even consider it to be perfect per se (and that's from a purely sound quality perspective; nevermind that it's reliant on SD cards and has an 8 hour battery life...).  That said, as we both know, I am largely aligned with your sonic preferences.  Maybe I shouldn't have dropped 800 bones that quickly...
 

post #15 of 59

I made an extensive comparison of TM5 vs PK1 here. If it does not answer your question, then would you please tell me more specifically what are you interested in? I would like to append the review if it is not satisfactory.
 

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Kostalex, TM5 is again available in their website. I believe you're the right person to ask about earbuds SQ. Do you think going from PK1 to TM5 will be a big leap?

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