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Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
Sep 17, 2012 at 1:12 AM Post #8,161 of 16,931
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snappyaxolotl said:
How would the Sennheiser IE7s compare to the Phonak Audeo PFE122s?
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Not at all. PFE122 is more detailed than IE7, better extended and doesn't have any bass boost or extra warmth. IE7 is noticeably darker and also more forward in the midrange, but not close to Ety forwardness. (3-5kHz)
 
Fit is also different - IE7 "inverse Darth Vader" is quite a bit larger, so it's possible it won't fit at all - both are over the ear only. Isolation is better in the Phonaks, which is actually saying IE7 isolation is very low, as IE7 is a semi-open dynamic driver.
 
Build quality is very good in both.
 
Sep 17, 2012 at 1:21 AM Post #8,162 of 16,931
@~ljokerl.

I'm looking for an IEM between $150-$400 which excels in separation, detail, soundstage width, liquid style mid range for vocals. I'm also wanting this to have bass texture similar to EX600 / EX1000, I really enjoy the bass on those EX series. Basically I love EX600's bass, mids of EPH-100 and treble of TF10. I'm trying to track something down as an all in one package. Imaging would also be a huge plus. I prefer the signatures of EPH and TF10 over the slightly dryer GRO7 and EX600.

I'd be using Cowon players as a source unamped.

The IEM's I have tried are:

Yamaha EPH-100,
GRO7 MK2,
TF10,
EX600.
Klipsch X10

Cheers!
 
Sep 17, 2012 at 1:24 AM Post #8,163 of 16,931
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astralstorm said:
Not at all. PFE122 is more detailed than IE7, better extended and doesn't have any bass boost or extra warmth. IE7 is noticeably darker and also more forward in the midrange, but not close to Ety forwardness. (3-5kHz)
 
Fit is also different - IE7 "inverse Darth Vader" is quite a bit larger, so it's possible it won't fit at all - both are over the ear only. Isolation is better in the Phonaks, which is actually saying IE7 isolation is very low, as IE7 is a semi-open dynamic driver.
 
Build quality is very good in both.
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Which in-ear headphone has better sound quality? I'm leaning towards the PFE122
 
Sep 17, 2012 at 1:30 AM Post #8,164 of 16,931
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joe bloggs said:
The thing is, unless you get very deep insertion custom IEMs and your hearing no longer goes past 13kHz there will always be at least one sound artifact that needs to be EQed out on all IEMs for optimum performance--a half-wave resonance peak in the treble that causes sibilance and harsh highs.
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I can relate as well. However, you can get rid of the treble peaks by using foam - it approximates an open ear canal better than silicone due to its sound absorbing properties and lack of reflective surface. Just make sure you don't pick a foam that will occlude the tube. (e.g. overly large Comply without trimming can do that)
For example, my SE-5 (a deep fit custom IEM) still has a remaining relatively small 14.5 kHz peak. Brainwavz B2 w/ Comply P Slim has none of that.
 
Sep 17, 2012 at 1:32 AM Post #8,165 of 16,931
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snappyaxolotl said:
 
Is that saying that the PFE122 would be a better choice than the IE7?
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Better is a matter of taste and personal head-related transfer function. If you asked which is more accurate to my ears, I'd say PFE 122 (with Green filters).
There's also some limited way to tune the sound signature to your liiking in PFE 122 with the three filters, so it's less likely to completely miss.
 
Sep 17, 2012 at 1:35 AM Post #8,166 of 16,931
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astralstorm said:
Better is a matter of taste and personal head-related transfer function. If you asked which is more accurate to my ears, I'd say PFE 122 (with Green filters).
There's also some limited way to tune the sound signature to your liiking in PFE 122 with the three filters, so it's less likely to completely miss.
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In that case, could you recommend something after reading this?
 
Sep 17, 2012 at 5:51 AM Post #8,167 of 16,931
Looks like you really like your she3580 joker, do you think I should buy one even though I havent been using the hf5 I've bought recently quite often as I should have?
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Sep 17, 2012 at 6:38 AM Post #8,169 of 16,931
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dustdevil said:
Looks like you really like your she3580 joker, do you think I should buy one even though I havent been using the hf5 I've bought recently quite often as I should have?
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these are so cheap that you should not think twice .
 
Sep 17, 2012 at 6:40 AM Post #8,170 of 16,931
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david321 said:
I seriously can't decide between the Soundmagic E10 and the Vsonic GR99. There both great value. I'm looking for the best bass performance. Can you help me out?. Thanks
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         only bass minded , you need m9 , out of these gr99 .
 
Sep 17, 2012 at 12:05 PM Post #8,175 of 16,931
I would like joker's and anyone's advice on budget custom IEMs. Sub $500, and I think I've got it narrowed down to 3 choices.
 
1) Alclair Reference (3-driver) is now $400. http://www.alclair.com/products/monitors/alclair-reference-custom-in-ear-monitor/
 
2) Clear Tune's CT-300 Pro (3-driver model, Joker reviewed the 2-driver, $350 CT-200). $450. http://cleartunemonitors.com/CT-300pro/
 
3) JHA's 2-driver JH5 Pro, $400.
 
 
I'll start with what I don't want: a dry, analytic sound. To me, that sounds lifeless and unengaging.
 
Balance across the frequency spectrum is key, as is a spatial presentation, but with a weight to the sound that makes it a fun, non-fatiguing experience.
 
I currently own GR07s. They're good, but not as engaging as I would like, along with being uncomfortable physically and a bit fatiguing sonically.
 
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. There's been very little written about Alclair and Clear Tune, outside of joker and average_joe. A big thanks to both of those guys for their tireless generosity.
 
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