Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
May 12, 2011 at 3:30 PM Post #2,956 of 16,931


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Also where can I find the over the ear support for the coppers?


That's part of the new accessories for the Coppers.  I use Phonak guides for my MD's from audeoworld.
 
Meelec tip kits M11+ are great for Monsters.
 
Did someone say the CK10 sounds like the M50?  WTH are people smoking?
 
 
 
May 12, 2011 at 5:24 PM Post #2,958 of 16,931
 
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@Joker

Will the Shure Triple Flange tips with CK10 reduce sibilance?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6-SHURE-Ear-tips-In-Ear-bud-Earphones-Headphone-sleeves-/200484117562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eadc8dc3a


 
Apparently Joker barely perceived any sibilance, so you should probably ask in the CK10 topic.
 
At the end of this post, "Sony, Shure tri-flanges, and/or foam tips" seem to be recommended for sibilance issues.
 
May 12, 2011 at 7:24 PM Post #2,959 of 16,931


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Here's a list of what I was considering:  
Soundmagic PL50
Brainwavz ProAlpha
JVC HA-FXC80
Meelectronics CX21
Meelectronics CW31
Meelectronics SP51
Nuforce NE-700X
 

 
Joker or ClieOS can obviously give you more specific reccomendations from these, but I do have the PL50 and I find them to be a litte too 'polite' : the upside of that is that they are the least fatiguing phones I own. One of the things to be careful of with the cheaper IEMs is durability - my RE0s literally fell apart within the first 6 months - but the PL50s seem quite tough by comparison. That said, you will almost certainly take more care of your IEMs than I do, but at least you know the PL50 has been 'battle tested' for months on end (I did try to baby the RE0, to no avail).
 
May 12, 2011 at 7:58 PM Post #2,960 of 16,931


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Did someone say the CK10 sounds like the M50?  WTH are people smoking?
 
 


Where has someone said a I.E.M sounds like a Big headphone ? They must be drinking something which contains a brain altering drug & makes their sense's lag  .
 
Or maybe they should be a little more precise .The Analytical characteristic of the CK10 is closely matched with the Analytical characteristic of the m50 & HD25...... no that's still not quite what I mean.The CK10 ,M50 & HD25 are all Transparent! .-" Easy to hear into the music, detailed, clear, not muddy. Wide flat frequency response, sharp time response, very low distortion and noise. A hear through quality that is akin to clarity and reveals all aspects of detail."
 
 
And it doesn't matter what people are smoking ,it's destroying there lungs!, weather that be direct inhalation of personal narcotics or passive breathing of Vehicle exhaust fumes .
 
But that's just common sense! ?  .Lungs don't like smoke of any kind .. IMFO.
 
Anyway keeping focused on the Rhythm . So Anaxilus ! comparing the CK10's Transparency with that of the M50's what are the main difference's you hear? .
 
The ck10's high's sometimes seem to be too dominant for me.Nothing that a little tweak of the EQ can't Fix .
 
 
 
 
 
May 12, 2011 at 8:27 PM Post #2,962 of 16,931


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Where has someone said a I.E.M sounds like a Big headphone ? They must be drinking something which contains a brain altering drug & makes their sense's lag  .
 

 
Hmm - I'm not going to name names, but there is a reference to a certain IEM sounding very much like the HD600, and its not the first time I have seen that particular comparison. I agree that such comparisons serve no worthwhile purpose, other than to start flame wars between fans of the RE0, er K701, er .......
 
May 12, 2011 at 9:47 PM Post #2,963 of 16,931
soooo.. Shure Olives. Amazing with my Ety MC5's. I think they made me decide to definitely upgrade to a pair of HF5's for my birthday. I love these headphones with these tips. I saw an increase in isolation and a huuuge bump in sound quality. Awesome.
 
May 12, 2011 at 11:26 PM Post #2,964 of 16,931
 
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Oh and for those interested in the Monster Turbine Pearls. They seem to apparently be the regular Monster Turbines in Monster Tubrine Pro-like packaging with a nice white color to boot.....lol (note: they are not in the Pro series). I wouldn't expect any sound differences. 


Very interesting, thanks. I guess I'll be waiting for the Trumpet Tributes, then.

 
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Here's a list of what I was considering:
 
Soundmagic PL50
Brainwavz ProAlpha
JVC HA-FXC80
Meelectronics CX21
Meelectronics CW31
Meelectronics SP51
Nuforce NE-700X
 
I didn't list certain iems since I am trying to find something on Amazon, though I may still consider the Brainwavz M2. In terms of style of music, I also listen to Opeth. I also listen to melodeath, OSDM, trash, NWOBHM, metalcore, deathcore, etc. I listen to any variation of metal, essentially. I also listen to the occasional pop, rock, and trip hop. If this helps at all, I own a pain of JVC HA-M750's that I really enjoy. Joker has them on his portable headphones thread. Here is their sound description:


The M2 is available on amazon as well. $70 will also get you an A151 and the CX21/CW31 really aren't worth buying over it. However, that M750 that you like lies far closer in balance to the NE-700X or rather, a split of the NE-700X and the Brainwavz M2. If you want the mids more forward than they are in the M750, the M2 is a solid choice. If you like the balance as is (and maybe wouldn't mind more bass depending on the seal you get with the Nuforces), the NE-700X. The SP51 is also quite fun to play with but its bass is a bit loose on the 'extreme bass' port.

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@Joker

Will the Shure Triple Flange tips with CK10 reduce sibilance?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6-SHURE-Ear-tips-In-Ear-bud-Earphones-Headphone-sleeves-/200484117562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eadc8dc3a


Not sure. I use fake monster tri-flanges or MEElec M6 trips (can't remember which is which anymore) and of course Sony Hybrids. The CK10 fits into my ear canal pretty much in its entirety. I don't get significant amounts of sibilance unless it's present on the track.


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soooo.. Shure Olives. Amazing with my Ety MC5's. I think they made me decide to definitely upgrade to a pair of HF5's for my birthday. I love these headphones with these tips. I saw an increase in isolation and a huuuge bump in sound quality. Awesome.


Ah, first Olive experience. They were my favourite tips back when the Er6i was my primary earphone.
 
May 13, 2011 at 12:08 AM Post #2,965 of 16,931


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That's part of the new accessories for the Coppers.  I use Phonak guides for my MD's from audeoworld.
 

 
I doubt if the kit I ordered from amazon yesterday has those new ear guides as its not mentioned anywhere.
 
The audioworld US site is not working properly. I get 404 error when i click buy.
 
BTW can someone please help me find some over the ear guides for Coppers? A quick search on amazon for "ear guides" is not fetching anything useful. and google fetches only Phonak guides sold in UK. Any US sites sell them? 
 
Thanks.
 
 
May 13, 2011 at 7:11 AM Post #2,967 of 16,931


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Hmm - I'm not going to name names, but there is a reference to a certain IEM sounding very much like the HD600, and its not the first time I have seen that particular comparison. I agree that such comparisons serve no worthwhile purpose, other than to start flame wars between fans of the RE0, er K701, er .......


Apart from the purpose of having a relatively similar Transparency thus a nice Audio continuity of your headphones,I.E.M's etc .So  music produced on one type of headphone will sound reasonably similar on another headphone or I.E.M .That's an issue I have with westone 3's .I'd produce a track using M50's and or HD25's and parts in the lower frequency would sound substantially different on the W3's with some tracks .
 
Anyway I have no Desire to Argue this particular point. I only mentioned it as to be helpful.
 
I have found Jokers Interpretation of headphones such as M50's , HD25 and yuin G2a to be Accurate .Not only Accurately describing the Detail of these headphones independently,but also there transparency being relatively well match . HD25 being close to M50's and the clip on yuin G2a having a Transparency that doesn't leave you feeling Disappointed after you've been listening with the  Bigger headphones,though the G2a it does need EQ or a tight fit .
 
CK10 seems to be another Audio device with that Transparency signature .Though with slightly risen Highs which can at first listen veil the sub bass region .
 
So merely as a helpful suggestion for people whom feel CK10's are too sibilant ,Try turning down  the High end Frequencies spectrum /Treble .Then you can turn the volume up more to hear the bass without the highs sounding Sibilant .
 
I'm trying this method out just to see if I can recalibrate my ears.Maybe using westone 3's I've become too used to the bass being in my face .
 
But if after a few days I still feel that the CK10's are too Sibilant .....?
 
Moving on :)
 
May 13, 2011 at 7:14 AM Post #2,968 of 16,931


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Apart from the purpose of having a relatively similar Transparency thus a nice Audio continuity of your headphones,I.E.M's etc .So  music produced on one type of headphone will sound reasonably similar on another headphone or I.E.M .That's an issue I have with westone 3's .I'd produce a track using M50's and or HD25's and parts in the lower frequency would sound substantially different on the W3's with some tracks .
 
Anyway I have no Desire to Argue this particular point. I only mentioned it as to be helpful.
 
I have found Jokers Interpretation of headphones such as M50's , HD25 and yuin G2a to be Accurate .Not only Accurately describing the Detail of these headphones independently,but also there transparency being relatively well match . HD25 being close to M50's and the clip on yuin G2a having a Transparency that doesn't leave you feeling Disappointed after you've been listening with the  Bigger headphones,though the G2a it does need EQ or a tight fit .
 
CK10 seems to be another Audio device with that Transparency signature .Though with slightly risen Highs which can at first listen veil the sub bass region .
 
So merely as a helpful suggestion for people whom feel CK10's are too sibilant ,Try turning down  the High end Frequencies spectrum /Treble .Then you can turn the volume up more to hear the bass without the highs sounding Sibilant .
 
I'm trying this method out just to see if I can recalibrate my ears.Maybe using westone 3's I've become too used to the bass being in my face .
 
But if after a few days I still feel that the CK10's are too Sibilant .....?
 
Moving on :)



Quick, rather off-topic question: why do some people capitalize adjectives and other random words like this sometimes? :p
 
May 13, 2011 at 1:01 PM Post #2,969 of 16,931

 
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to be honest, my ears do a better job at keeping the headphones in place. those ear guides move a bit too much to make them useful..


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