After another two weeks of experimenting, to understand what i really like in music, i understood that i like bass, like normal but very very clear mids, like soundstage, micro and macro details.
 
to mention, i like the sound of ie8 with tape over bass adjusting thingy, with double flange medium tips. That sound is perfect, the mids are no longer laid back, the soundstage is exactly how much it should be, like it is where i want it to be, very immersive, but yet the music extends to a certain distance around me, like a studio room, or more, the treble is not lacking nor sibilant, nor harsh, it is nice, and the bass is exactly how it should have been, no more 100 hz region bump, no more bloated bass, it has the force in the sub bass region, but it is not overwhelming anymore, but i feel like it is a lot of bass, compared to a neutral signature. the bass adjusting thingy are set at minimum. also the speparation is so perfect, every note from every instrument is it's own, even in very very complicated music, like, say, wintersun. the instruments are extremely different, and i love this.
 
the only reason i feel that i need a new iem is because even though ie8 sound just so amazing at this time, i have the money to buy, and i know that there is something better out there. also i would love to know if there is a combination of iems to buy to have some spare iems. i would also love to have triple flange with what i buy, but it is not entirely necessary.
 
For me seems that i want to buy the iem that has the ultimate SQ possible, and i want it to have everything, to be clear, to have soundstage, to have treble, to have microdetails, and to have visceral bass on bass oriented music, and to have nice separation. a very good iem, that is expensive and is worth the money. 
 
EDIT:: i just digget up a pair of yamaha eph 30, they are still usable, and out of my fiio x5, they sound nice. i would clearly consider there the best around 30$ one can get. with ie8 small foam, they get forward mids, bass is there, clarity is good for the price, compared to ie8 they sound very veiled and muffled, but they cost 1/6 the price. after much thought, they are still worth it.
they do not retrieve all instruments, not immerse you, not sound like everything really happends, cymbals can barley be heared, micro details are not there, veiled, but still are worth the price tag. they are not sibilant almost at all. they do not clip, they are extremely small and confortable. with eq they can be dream iems at 30$..
switching to ie8 is almost like taking three layers of clothing off ears. and three 100$ bills of your wallet, compared.
to mention, just to know, with silicone tips they create suction between the ear membrane and driver, they hurt the ear, and sound bad bad bad.
 
would akg k3003 still fill the bill, or?

dobrescu george said:

  After another two weeks of experimenting, to understand what i really like in music, i understood that i like bass, like normal but very very clear mids, like soundstage, micro and macro details.
 
to mention, i like the sound of ie8 with tape over bass adjusting thingy, with double flange medium tips. That sound is perfect, the mids are no longer laid back, the soundstage is exactly how much it should be, like it is where i want it to be, very immersive, but yet the music extends to a certain distance around me, like a studio room, or more, the treble is not lacking nor sibilant, nor harsh, it is nice, and the bass is exactly how it should have been, no more 100 hz region bump, no more bloated bass, it has the force in the sub bass region, but it is not overwhelming anymore, but i feel like it is a lot of bass, compared to a neutral signature. the bass adjusting thingy are set at minimum. also the speparation is so perfect, every note from every instrument is it's own, even in very very complicated music, like, say, wintersun. the instruments are extremely different, and i love this.
 
the only reason i feel that i need a new iem is because even though ie8 sound just so amazing at this time, i have the money to buy, and i know that there is something better out there. also i would love to know if there is a combination of iems to buy to have some spare iems. i would also love to have triple flange with what i buy, but it is not entirely necessary.
 
For me seems that i want to buy the iem that has the ultimate SQ possible, and i want it to have everything, to be clear, to have soundstage, to have treble, to have microdetails, and to have visceral bass on bass oriented music, and to have nice separation. a very good iem, that is expensive and is worth the money. 
 
EDIT:: i just digget up a pair of yamaha eph 30, they are still usable, and out of my fiio x5, they sound nice. i would clearly consider there the best around 30$ one can get. with ie8 small foam, they get forward mids, bass is there, clarity is good for the price, compared to ie8 they sound very veiled and muffled, but they cost 1/6 the price. after much thought, they are still worth it.
they do not retrieve all instruments, not immerse you, not sound like everything really happends, cymbals can barley be heared, micro details are not there, veiled, but still are worth the price tag. they are not sibilant almost at all. they do not clip, they are extremely small and confortable. with eq they can be dream iems at 30$..
switching to ie8 is almost like taking three layers of clothing off ears. and three 100$ bills of your wallet, compared.
to mention, just to know, with silicone tips they create suction between the ear membrane and driver, they hurt the ear, and sound bad bad bad.
 
would akg k3003 still fill the bill, or?

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there will never be an 'ultimate SQ possible' iem , the point is finding an iem that satifies your listening needs

i have noticed you have been circling arounf the K3003 for quite some time , i think you should try it and satisfy your curiosity and you will know for sure whether it's the one you want 

i just got mine  (will post my impressions on the K3003 thread) but in short i really like it , it is a very good iem although like all TOTL iems out there you don't get an iem that is 2-3 times better than an iem that costs 1/2 or 1/3 of the K3003 price (law of diminishing results stand for all expensive iems , and the cheaper mid-price iems have raised their game quite a lot lately)

i am a music junkie , so paying 700$ for it feels like a gift and an investment more than anything else - i'd rather spent money on a great iem rather than on alcohol or clothes , as i feel that money spent on iems are oney well spent.

dobrescu george said:

After another two weeks of experimenting, to understand what i really like in music, i understood that i like bass, like normal but very very clear mids, like soundstage, micro and macro details.

to mention, i like the sound of ie8 with tape over bass adjusting thingy, with double flange medium tips. That sound is perfect, the mids are no longer laid back, the soundstage is exactly how much it should be, like it is where i want it to be, very immersive, but yet the music extends to a certain distance around me, like a studio room, or more, the treble is not lacking nor sibilant, nor harsh, it is nice, and the bass is exactly how it should have been, no more 100 hz region bump, no more bloated bass, it has the force in the sub bass region, but it is not overwhelming anymore, but i feel like it is a lot of bass, compared to a neutral signature. the bass adjusting thingy are set at minimum. also the speparation is so perfect, every note from every instrument is it's own, even in very very complicated music, like, say, wintersun. the instruments are extremely different, and i love this.

the only reason i feel that i need a new iem is because even though ie8 sound just so amazing at this time, i have the money to buy, and i know that there is something better out there. also i would love to know if there is a combination of iems to buy to have some spare iems. i would also love to have triple flange with what i buy, but it is not entirely necessary.

For me seems that i want to buy the iem that has the ultimate SQ possible, and i want it to have everything, to be clear, to have soundstage, to have treble, to have microdetails, and to have visceral bass on bass oriented music, and to have nice separation. a very good iem, that is expensive and is worth the money. 

EDIT:: i just digget up a pair of yamaha eph 30, they are still usable, and out of my fiio x5, they sound nice. i would clearly consider there the best around 30$ one can get. with ie8 small foam, they get forward mids, bass is there, clarity is good for the price, compared to ie8 they sound very veiled and muffled, but they cost 1/6 the price. after much thought, they are still worth it.
they do not retrieve all instruments, not immerse you, not sound like everything really happends, cymbals can barley be heared, micro details are not there, veiled, but still are worth the price tag. they are not sibilant almost at all. they do not clip, they are extremely small and confortable. with eq they can be dream iems at 30$..
switching to ie8 is almost like taking three layers of clothing off ears. and three 100$ bills of your wallet, compared.
to mention, just to know, with silicone tips they create suction between the ear membrane and driver, they hurt the ear, and sound bad bad bad.

would akg k3003 still fill the bill, or?

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You said yourself that your EPH30 sounds good to you, why dont you get 2 level upgrade and buy the EPH100?

They are on sale at the moment:

www.audioaffair.co.uk/yamaha-eph100-earphones

lifted andreas said:

You said yourself that your EPH30 sounds good to you, why dont you get 2 level upgrade and buy the EPH100?

They are on sale at the moment:

www.audioaffair.co.uk/yamaha-eph100-earphones

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EPH100 vs DUOZA , what do you think?

Thanks a lot to |joker| for all the reviews
 
I wonder how much time he spends on each iem
 
I guess he spends a really long time for each
 
looking forward to some newer models like the ATH IM series

lifted andreas said:

You said yourself that your EPH30 sounds good to you, why dont you get 2 level upgrade and buy the EPH100?

They are on sale at the moment:

www.audioaffair.co.uk/yamaha-eph100-earphones

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ie8 sounds better than eph30 for example. i stopped searching for entry level or mid end, i want to search and buy the end game iem for me, right now. the contenders, as far as i understand are jh13, jh roxanne, akg k3003, ie800, FitEar To Go! 334, dunu dn2000.
i wanted to ask what has the best confort too. akg k3003 seems like a nice choice, but after trying eph 30 and being able to insert them very deep, i feel like i might enjoy deep insertion, even though, the first thing for me is SQ. what has the best sq, i can pretty much enjoy any sq as long as it is the best [meaning the most clear, detailed, best soundstage etc.]
 
i managed, after a lot of thought to put in words what i am searching for! yay!
 
i want the iem that is the most clear, has best micro details, good soundstage, best details, best clarity, best separation between instruments, makes music sound the most... good. i don't care for how the signature is, i can acomodate any signature in a few minutes, and i will. i just want it to have everything, and to be the best of the best in clarity. as long as it has bass, has mids has treble, and everything is there, i don't care what is more expressed, i love all parts of music, i want it to sound like taking the last veil off, and make the music the most vivid.

proedros said:

   
 
there will never be an 'ultimate SQ possible' iem , the point is finding an iem that satifies your listening needs

i have noticed you have been circling arounf the K3003 for quite some time , i think you should try it and satisfy your curiosity and you will know for sure whether it's the one you want 

i just got mine  (will post my impressions on the K3003 thread) but in short i really like it , it is a very good iem although like all TOTL iems out there you don't get an iem that is 2-3 times better than an iem that costs 1/2 or 1/3 of the K3003 price (law of diminishing results stand for all expensive iems , and the cheaper mid-price iems have raised their game quite a lot lately)

i am a music junkie , so paying 700$ for it feels like a gift and an investment more than anything else - i'd rather spent money on a great iem rather than on alcohol or clothes , as i feel that money spent on iems are oney well spent.

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I like that last paragraph.  I feel the same way.    I also say...give me my flowers now , not when I am dead.

shultzee said:

 
I like that last paragraph.  I feel the same way.    I also say...give me my flowers now , not when I am dead.

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i like your last phrase , the 'YOLO' term seems to resonate with me much more these last few months after a death in the family.

we only live once, so let's buy the best iems we can while we are alive and kicking (and hearing well i might add)

proedros said:

   
i like your last phrase , the 'YOLO' term seems to resonate with me much more these last few months after a death in the family.

we only live once, so let's buy the best iems we can while we are alive and kicking (and hearing well i might add)

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thug behram said:

The cable on my dn-1000 tore apart. I'm gonna get it replaced through warranty and then sell it.

Looking for a replacement. Up to $300ish. Warm or slightly V-shaped, nice bass. Removable cable is a must.

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Not a lot of options with detachable cords in that price range... maybe Fidue A83? The Sony XBA-H3 drops below $300 also, though I don't know what the story is with detachable cables for that. For the Fidue any MMCX cable should work. 
 

harrycheng said:

  Thanks a lot to |joker| for all the reviews
 
I wonder how much time he spends on each iem
 
I guess he spends a really long time for each
 
looking forward to some newer models like the ATH IM series

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Anywhere from a few days to a few weeks per. 

encoreac said:

EPH100 vs DUOZA , what do you think?

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EPH100 for me all the way, even though I haven't heard the Douzas yet.

It's just that my ears like deep insertion IEMs and Douza wouldn't be good for that.

dobrescu george said:

ie8 sounds better than eph30 for example. i stopped searching for entry level or mid end, i want to search and buy the end game iem for me, right now. the contenders, as far as i understand are jh13, jh roxanne, akg k3003, ie800, FitEar To Go! 334, dunu dn2000.

i wanted to ask what has the best confort too. akg k3003 seems like a nice choice, but after trying eph 30 and being able to insert them very deep, i feel like i might enjoy deep insertion, even though, the first thing for me is SQ. what has the best sq, i can pretty much enjoy any sq as long as it is the best [meaning the most clear, detailed, best soundstage etc.]


i managed, after a lot of thought to put in words what i am searching for! yay!


i want the iem that is the most clear, has best micro details, good soundstage, best details, best clarity, best separation between instruments, makes music sound the most... good. i don't care for how the signature is, i can acomodate any signature in a few minutes, and i will. i just want it to have everything, and to be the best of the best in clarity. as long as it has bass, has mids has treble, and everything is there, i don't care what is more expressed, i love all parts of music, i want it to sound like taking the last veil off, and make the music the most vivid.

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Hmm sounds like you want to find the perfect iem lol. This might not happen until you try and buy some.

lifted andreas said:

EPH100 for me all the way, even though I haven't heard the Douzas yet.

It's just that my ears like deep insertion IEMs and Douza wouldn't be good for that.
Hmm sounds like you want to find the perfect iem lol. This might not happen until you try and buy some.

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i can only try sennheiser ie800, and i can only buy ie800 and akg k3003 and be able to return them.
 
for anything else i can only buy, without returning, because of waiting policies for international shipping. so long story short, anything else but ie800 and k3003, i will have to keep even if it is not for me, this is why i am so reluctant to start buying iems, and research a lot. i think that i going to buy dunu dn2000 either way, because joker said that it sounds amazing, but universal versions of customs are expensive, and if there is the risk of me not liking them, and i will be forced to keep them either way. it is not a smart way of doing buisness with that one. if i will ever have a trip to a place where i can test more, i will, and more than sure i will stop asking and just buy what i truly desire.
 
but with all seriousness, i can accept any type of sound, as long as it hass every are right, bass mids and treble, and it is the most detailed, and has the best soundstage. i think that these are the most important aspects

Hi, hello joker, you really have things running here. But it is so much that after so much reading I have to ask .
 
I am after my first IEM's, I do manly entertainment, and the reason for getting ones is for tablet and 3ds audio play. My budget gets around 30 dollars with a fair room for working it around. The main problem is that since I am in portugal, europe, I don't seem to get half of the brands you have on your reviews, so I'm kinda forced down on the most popular ones like, sony, philips, akg, senheiser, pioneer and stuff (with some exceptions on amazon uk).
 
My main cans are the beyerdynamic dt 770 pro 80ohm I think they are the perfect ones for my use and earings and I do love the isolation, it is something important to me, and my main focus is gaming and sound quality (more for the neutral sound but with that kick for entertainment).
 
So what do you (joker) or you guys can recommend?
 
I almost buy a philips she3590 and also looked at the akg k321, but I figured it would be first to ask here first.
 
Hope you or everyone can help me out.
 
Thank you all in advance .
 
EDIT: I also care a lot about comfort and cables, giving preference to flat or braided ones.

dobrescu george said:

i can only try sennheiser ie800, and i can only buy ie800 and akg k3003 and be able to return them.

for anything else i can only buy, without returning, because of waiting policies for international shipping. so long story short, anything else but ie800 and k3003, i will have to keep even if it is not for me, this is why i am so reluctant to start buying iems, and research a lot. i think that i going to buy dunu dn2000 either way, because joker said that it sounds amazing, but universal versions of customs are expensive, and if there is the risk of me not liking them, and i will be forced to keep them either way. it is not a smart way of doing buisness with that one. if i will ever have a trip to a place where i can test more, i will, and more than sure i will stop asking and just buy what i truly desire.

but with all seriousness, i can accept any type of sound, as long as it hass every are right, bass mids and treble, and it is the most detailed, and has the best soundstage. i think that these are the most important aspects

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I guess another option for you is try and sell on. That's what a lot of people do.

I lost count of how many IEMs I've gone through like that.

i tested today... as far as iems go, i only got to tested ie800, as an expensive thing... it was very very sibilant and harsh. the treble was sounding all SSSSS i don't know why... it was powered from an x5 only. From chord hugo, the problem did not exist, and the sound was fuller. i am thinking if i should buy ie800 with chord hugo for an end game setup/.