Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
Jun 3, 2014 at 8:55 AM Post #13,757 of 16,931
  As discussed over the past few pages, it's very hard to find an earphone that is all around better than another (as long as the starting point is a good performer, of course) - there are almost always some potential compromises to be made. The VSD1S, for example, is more sibilance-prone than the SHE3580, even though I still consider it an upgrade overall - better clarity, tighter bass, wider soundstage, etc. The AM-800 is substantially brighter than the SHE3850 and has noticeably less bass. The AX35 is also brighter and has less deep bass. The FXT90 is more mid-bassy. Out of these I would consider the FXT90 and VSD1S to be the best upgrades in terms of value for money. 

Wich tips do you guys recomend to improve the confort/fit/sound/isolation (the least important since the stock ones isolation is not that bad) for the philips she3580/90??
 
To be honest i dont like the stock tips from the philips.... they are a bit too squishy, flabby(???)... since i bought the philips a year ago i have been using them with the tips from my brainwavz m5 (wich i hate... at least the tips are usefull.... XD ) but unfortunately i lost one of them recently (i use the medium size).....
 
Any suggestions for good and also if possible cheap tips for the philips?
 
Cheers.....
 
Jun 3, 2014 at 10:20 AM Post #13,758 of 16,931
  Wich tips do you guys recomend to improve the confort/fit/sound/isolation (the least important since the stock ones isolation is not that bad) for the philips she3580/90??
 
To be honest i dont like the stock tips from the philips.... they are a bit too squishy, flabby(???)... since i bought the philips a year ago i have been using them with the tips from my brainwavz m5 (wich i hate... at least the tips are usefull.... XD ) but unfortunately i lost one of them recently (i use the medium size).....
 
Any suggestions for good and also if possible cheap tips for the philips?
 
Cheers.....



I remember the stock tips on those Phillips SHE3580 they had terribly thin walls.

I used to use these......

http://shop.ebay.com.au/15shopgoods/m.html?_nkw=EP-Ex10A&_sacat=0&_trksid=p3911.m270.l1313&_sop=1&_odkw=&_osacat=0

Until I left them at the dentist and someone stole them along with a Rockboxed Clip+ & 32GB card. 
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Jun 3, 2014 at 2:39 PM Post #13,759 of 16,931
 

I remember the stock tips on those Phillips SHE3580 they had terribly thin walls.

I used to use these......

http://shop.ebay.com.au/15shopgoods/m.html?_nkw=EP-Ex10A&_sacat=0&_trksid=p3911.m270.l1313&_sop=1&_odkw=&_osacat=0

Until I left them at the dentist and someone stole them along with a Rockboxed Clip+ & 32GB card. 
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Thanks m8.....they seem to be exactly what i want.... but unfortunatelly it seems they do not ship those to Portugal.... ;(
 
Any other alternatives?
 
Jun 4, 2014 at 12:50 AM Post #13,760 of 16,931
Thanks for the reply Joker! I know I have said it before, but I appreciate all your hard work; also, I always enjoy reading your well-put-together reviews and the organization with the number ratings. Such a great help to the community!
 
I agree that all iem's have their pros and cons, with give and take involved. Each being unique and good at some things(hopefully). I was wondering if they are any higher-end iems around $200 and below that remind you of the SHE3590s.
 
Another question... and maybe a little loaded! I really like Dubstep, Electronic, and the like mostly, as well as Rock & Metal, Alternative, female vocals, and piano for a bit of background. How do the JVC HA-FXD80 and T-Peos H-100 compare to/differ from each other(are they fairly similar?) and those to the MA750, HA-FXT90, and DN-1000? In signature, degree of coolness or warmth, level of details/clarity/resolution, and separation & spaciousness specifically. Thanks again!
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Jun 4, 2014 at 12:59 AM Post #13,761 of 16,931
Hey joker, have you tried the t-peos h-100J ? How does it compare with t-peos h-100 ? And there is a new h-100 II ? Are the h-100 and h-100 II the same in sound?

 
To be honest I didn't even know there were other versions. I've only tried the original H-100
 
  Wich tips do you guys recomend to improve the confort/fit/sound/isolation (the least important since the stock ones isolation is not that bad) for the philips she3580/90??
 
To be honest i dont like the stock tips from the philips.... they are a bit too squishy, flabby(???)... since i bought the philips a year ago i have been using them with the tips from my brainwavz m5 (wich i hate... at least the tips are usefull.... XD ) but unfortunately i lost one of them recently (i use the medium size).....
 
Any suggestions for good and also if possible cheap tips for the philips?
 
Cheers.....

 
I use the single-flange tips from the MEElec M6. They're similar to the Philips tips in terms of sizing but they give me a better seal. The M6 double-flanges also work pretty well - I would suggest trying both if you can. 
 
  Thanks for the reply Joker! I know I have said it before, but I appreciate all your hard work; also, I always enjoy reading your well-put-together reviews and the organization with the number ratings. Such a great help to the community!
 
I agree that all iem's have their pros and cons, with give and take involved. Each being unique and good at some things(hopefully). I was wondering if they are any higher-end iems around $200 and below that remind you of the SHE3590s.
 
Another question... and maybe a little loaded! I really like Dubstep, Electronic, and the like mostly, as well as Rock & Metal, Alternative, female vocals, and piano for a bit of background. How do the JVC HA-FXD80 and T-Peos H-100 compare to/differ from each other(are they fairly similar?) and those to the MA750, HA-FXT90, and DN-1000? In signature, degree of coolness or warmth, level of details/clarity/resolution, and separation & spaciousness specifically. Thanks again! 
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Not loaded... just very long. It's much easier if you tell me what type of sound you're after in more detail than have me compare and contrast five different earphones in like 7 different categories. The DN-1000 would be my pick from those, if you can afford it. Sounds great with EDM while maintaining sufficient clarity and control for everything else.  
 
Jun 4, 2014 at 1:05 AM Post #13,762 of 16,931
  Thanks m8.....they seem to be exactly what i want.... but unfortunatelly it seems they do not ship those to Portugal.... ;(
 
Any other alternatives?

 
I just recently switched to Sony Hybrids, which is what the eBay link from H20Fidelity was to I believe. They work well with the 3580/90s for me. A little change in sound notable to me, a little more controlled I think, but not much in my opinion(I don't have a good nor experienced listening ear for evaluating sound though lol). They are even more comfortable, but have a little shallower fit for me while still good.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-EPEX10A-BLK-Replacement-Earbuds/dp/B001RB24UA
 
Jun 4, 2014 at 1:07 AM Post #13,763 of 16,931
should i pick the ue900 or the dunu dn1000 for the same price ? and to my indian folks , ue 900 is going for inr 12999 on snapdeal.com .
 
Jun 4, 2014 at 2:00 AM Post #13,764 of 16,931
I figured it was too long a Q. My bad. I have a some factual knowledge, but little to no experience.
That's the question for me, do I "want to" afford it and would something else suit me more for my personal preference of which I'm not entirely sure. What would be second and third to the Dunus for EDM or my described sound below(I tried to do what I could... lol)
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I'm not 100% sure exactly. Hopefully I can describe it without sounding oxymoronic, lol.
 
I want a V-shaped signature with quite a bit of sub-bass impact and quantity, but not overly so, that is extended and textured. Not sure about how I like the mids. Treble that has some sparkle, but is not peaky or sibilant or too harsh as I am sensitive to treble. I want it to sound a little cool in tone if that will help reveal details and promote overall clarity. Fairly fun, but accurate enough it can reveal poor recordings. Great separation and an airy, out-of-the-head presentation would be nice.
I might be tugging on both sides of the spectrum a bit, hopefully not much though.
 
Jun 4, 2014 at 8:16 AM Post #13,765 of 16,931
  Thanks m8.....they seem to be exactly what i want.... but unfortunatelly it seems they do not ship those to Portugal.... ;(
 
Any other alternatives?



Have a look here, see what you can find: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.Xear+tips&_nkw=ear+tips&_sacat=0&_from=R40
 
Jun 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM Post #13,766 of 16,931
ljokerl (Mr. Joker Sir!)
 
Thank you so much for all you have put into this. I think I personally have referred to it over a thousand times minimum.
 
I purchased the RHA ma750i a while back and love it due to the fact it is built like a tank and works very well. The bass/sub bass is very amazing for an IEM. However, I am noticing that the midrange seems to be a overshadowed/recessed and not as clear as it could be. Seems warm/dark sometimes to me. 
 
I was wondering if there is an IEM that has the same kind of controlled, articulate bass/sub bass but also has excellent mids and highs. I guess I want it all...
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Looking in the $150-300 range. 
 
My full size phones are the 650 and NAD HP 50.
 
Thanks!
 
-Mike
 
Jun 5, 2014 at 12:06 AM Post #13,767 of 16,931
  should i pick the ue900 or the dunu dn1000 for the same price ? and to my indian folks , ue 900 is going for inr 12999 on snapdeal.com .

 
Depends, do you want the bass and wow factor of the DN-1000 or the balance and poise of the UE900? $200 ish is a good price for the UE900 if genuine.
 
  I figured it was too long a Q. My bad. I have a some factual knowledge, but little to no experience.
That's the question for me, do I "want to" afford it and would something else suit me more for my personal preference of which I'm not entirely sure. What would be second and third to the Dunus for EDM or my described sound below(I tried to do what I could... lol)
confused.gif

 
I'm not 100% sure exactly. Hopefully I can describe it without sounding oxymoronic, lol.
 
I want a V-shaped signature with quite a bit of sub-bass impact and quantity, but not overly so, that is extended and textured. Not sure about how I like the mids. Treble that has some sparkle, but is not peaky or sibilant or too harsh as I am sensitive to treble. I want it to sound a little cool in tone if that will help reveal details and promote overall clarity. Fairly fun, but accurate enough it can reveal poor recordings. Great separation and an airy, out-of-the-head presentation would be nice.
I might be tugging on both sides of the spectrum a bit, hopefully not much though.

 
Yeah, a bit. Not too bad, though. The RHA MA750 for example has the right bass, treble, and presentation characteristics but it's not cool in tone and clarity/detail retrieval are not the best due to slight veiling of the midrange. The JVC FXD80 is the opposite - not as bassy and brighter/less forgiving overall, but tonally it sounds more like what you're describing. The DN-1000 is probably as close as it gets to a compromise here. The FXT90 and H-100 wouldn't really been any more suitable for your requirements than the MA750 and FXD80, respectively.
 
  ljokerl (Mr. Joker Sir!)
 
Thank you so much for all you have put into this. I think I personally have referred to it over a thousand times minimum.
 
I purchased the RHA ma750i a while back and love it due to the fact it is built like a tank and works very well. The bass/sub bass is very amazing for an IEM. However, I am noticing that the midrange seems to be a overshadowed/recessed and not as clear as it could be. Seems warm/dark sometimes to me. 
 
I was wondering if there is an IEM that has the same kind of controlled, articulate bass/sub bass but also has excellent mids and highs. I guess I want it all...
tongue_smile.gif
 
 
Looking in the $150-300 range. 
 
My full size phones are the 650 and NAD HP 50.
 
Thanks!
 
-Mike

 
The Yamaha EPH-100 has a similar balance of bass quantity and quality that the MA750 has but its mids are not as recessed. It would be a good one to try. The DN-1000 has less bass but the mids are definitely clearer still. Beyond that, staying with the powerful bass/sub-bass theme, maybe one of the JVC Woodies? It might be possible to get an FX750 in that price range nowadays. I don't think those a great value compared to newer sets like the MA750 and EPH-100 but they're out there if you want to spend the $$. 
 
Jun 5, 2014 at 5:17 AM Post #13,768 of 16,931
  Wich tips do you guys recomend to improve the confort/fit/sound/isolation (the least important since the stock ones isolation is not that bad) for the philips she3580/90??
 
To be honest i dont like the stock tips from the philips.... they are a bit too squishy, flabby(???)... since i bought the philips a year ago i have been using them with the tips from my brainwavz m5 (wich i hate... at least the tips are usefull.... XD ) but unfortunately i lost one of them recently (i use the medium size).....
 
Any suggestions for good and also if possible cheap tips for the philips?
 
Cheers.....

You could also try checking out my short review on these at http://www.head-fi.org/t/663657/philips-she3580-how-to-up-grade-your-philips-she3580-90-note-once-up-graded-theyre-hard-to-beat. I do mention about the "sky blue medium tips by vsonic" which made a world of a difference for me.
 
Today, they are still one of my top 10 favorites!
 
Ps. -It is an old thread, but VSONIC still provides these tips. You can purchase them at any credible website that sells Chinese IEM's to the US or any other country, or maybe even amazon or ebay. Good luck!
 
Jun 5, 2014 at 11:40 AM Post #13,770 of 16,931
  Philips SHE-3590 not in the list...

Actually they are pretty much in the same league as the 3580. So, yes they are in the same list. When it's written like this: Philips SHE-3580/90, what I really mean is that the tips supports the Philips SHE-3580 as well as the Philips SHE-3590.
 
I hope this is what your statement is referring to.....
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