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I'll go for the Coppers as you won't get as much upgraditis. But I'll also consider the Golds though which you may find at a lower price and yet have comparable sound (not one is completely better than the other). 
 
While we are on the topic of Monsters. I think the Coppers have more flex than the Golds because there is less dampering on the nozzle (foam?). I think they're both the same drivers and housing but the dampering is what causes the changes.  I assume this because the HJE900s get more flex without filters and foam. This will also explain the sound differences and performance (efficiency) between the Golds and Coppers (similar sound differences happen to the HJE900s/RE0/Zero) as these are said to use the same drivers. I personally think this is spot on...
 
Oh and for those interested in the Monster Turbine Pearls. They seem to apparently be the regular Monster Turbines in Monster Tubrine Pro-like packaging with a nice white color to boot.....lol (note: they are not in the Pro series). I wouldn't expect any sound differences. 

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It's probably more damping in the actual driver, more than just a filter.  I doubt the sonic differences could simply be due to a filter...

This is kind of a broad question, but which iem's going up to $70 on this list would be the best choice for listening to metal? I really have a hard time with all of the descriptions of the sound, and I really don't know what sound fits this type of music the best.

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This is kind of a broad question, but which iem's going up to $70 on this list would be the best choice for listening to metal? I really have a hard time with all of the descriptions of the sound, and I really don't know what sound fits this type of music the best.

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Hmmm - are you into any specific genre ? My friend is a massive Opeth fan and he was very happy with the resolution offered by the RE0, but they didnt have enough slam for my Melodeath cravings. I would suggest that you revisit Joker's epic thread, get a shortlist together of the IEMs in your price range and come back to us.
 

Of course there is no filter difference as they are the same. There is a difference in the dampening in the nozzle or driver.

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Hmmm - are you into any specific genre ? My friend is a massive Opeth fan and he was very happy with the resolution offered by the RE0, but they didnt have enough slam for my Melodeath cravings. I would suggest that you revisit Joker's epic thread, get a shortlist together of the IEMs in your price range and come back to us.
 

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Here's a list of what I was considering:
 
Soundmagic PL50
Brainwavz ProAlpha
JVC HA-FXC80
Meelectronics CX21
Meelectronics CW31
Meelectronics SP51
Nuforce NE-700X
 
I didn't list certain iems since I am trying to find something on Amazon, though I may still consider the Brainwavz M2. In terms of style of music, I also listen to Opeth. I also listen to melodeath, OSDM, trash, NWOBHM, metalcore, deathcore, etc. I listen to any variation of metal, essentially. I also listen to the occasional pop, rock, and trip hop. If this helps at all, I own a pain of JVC HA-M750's that I really enjoy. Joker has them on his portable headphones thread. Here is their sound description:
 
    "The sound of the JVCs manages to be very full and rich but at the same time surprisingly balanced. The bass is quite deep – extension is better than the K81DJ and about on-par with the CAL!s – and well-textured. If the mids weren’t so forward these could easily be classified as bass-centric cans, but the whole signature is pretty aggressive, which corrects the balance (albeit at the expense of a mediocre soundstage). The midrange is very thick and creamy, causing them to lag behind the K81Dj in separation and clarity. The timbre isn’t quite as natural, either, but they do sound more coherent as a result. While on the dark and warm side of neutral, the M750 did a great job of keeping me entertained without being absolutely true to the source."
 
Sorry for going on a bit there.
 

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M9 has better soundstaging and separation; the Pearl has better mids and better overall balance.

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thank you very much! I think I'm going for Pearl... My last IEM is rather bass-heavy (its a locally re-branded SoundMagic PL20, I think), so I'm kinda wanting something different.

Received my CK10 today, and the difference between the RE0 is night and day. I weren't expecting such a difference, my only gripe is sibilance. Even with Comply tips the sibilance is still unbearable, I hope the burn-in will reduce sibilance otherwise I will be looking elsewhere.

finally got my refurbished coppers from monster.... took forever.... after listening to them i remember why it was so hard to sell my original pair.  great headphones for casual listening at night in bed

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finally got my refurbished coppers from monster.... took forever.... after listening to them i remember why it was so hard to sell my original pair.  great headphones for casual listening at night in bed

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As opposed to intense listening in the morning on your sofa?

 
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As opposed to intense listening in the morning on your sofa?

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or lounging on your chair at noon..

Guys, Finally decided on the turbine coppers. Will be placing the order today from amzon. Are there any eartips i need to be considering along with this? I have a narrow ear canal.

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Guys, Finally decided on the turbine coppers. Will be placing the order today from amzon. Are there any eartips i need to be considering along with this? I have a narrow ear canal.

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Pretty sure they come with a pretty massive array of tips.  You probably don't have to worry about fit, unless none of the many, many included tips fit you (it comes with a whole bunch of different kinds too, last time I checked).

 
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Guys, Finally decided on the turbine coppers. Will be placing the order today from amzon. Are there any eartips i need to be considering along with this? I have a narrow ear canal.

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you'll get 15 different pairs of tips; includes five pairs foam/hybrid, 5 pairs silicone gel, 3 regular silicones and two tri-flanges. If you get anything less, they're likely a phony pair..

OK then, I am ordering

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Received my CK10 today, and the difference between the RE0 is night and day. I weren't expecting such a difference, my only gripe is sibilance. Even with Comply tips the sibilance is still unbearable, I hope the burn-in will reduce sibilance otherwise I will be looking elsewhere.

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I too received some CK10's Today & I too @ times hear that there is a fair amount of sibilance either being produced by the CK10's or High frequency content in the original track.Are you listening too mp3's by any chance? .Also If you don't achieve a very tight seal then there is a lack of bass extension which will sound like sibilance(edit: will over emphasize the high frequencies), .For these I.E.M's to work effectively you need that slight suction  feel type of seal .
 
Once you get the fitting right the bass comes up and balance's the highs thus the "Sibilance" fades mostly away even with mp3's  .CK10's are well balanced as tracks that I produced using my Big monitor headphones are accurately reproduced  .In fact apart from the inner head sound that I.E.M inherently have, the track is musically identical (edit: sorry I meant has a identical  musical transparency ) to how it sounds on the Audio technica ATH - M50's & HD25's .
 
 
 
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 "burn-in" it will not reduce the high frequencies .In fact I believe "burn-in" is largely marketing spin as manufacturers are well aware the longer people listen to a particular type of sound the more likely they are to feel comfortable with it .What may happen is you adapt to the highs you hear with these and maybe begin to enjoy them .I think quite a few people especially so called "bass heads" want that boom from the bass.But quite often that rumble is not in the original recording, it is the re-verb effect of loud  music,with low frequency content being played in large rooms like Night clubs. And is in fact a distortion .
 
 
 
As for me I'm still testing the CK10's out.I've got Fairly used to the westone 3 I.E.M with it's over amplified bass region .At times I feel CK10's are @ the other end of the spectrum with over amplified highs,even if they are energetic Sprite highs   .