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Originally Posted by widdyjudas View Post
 

Joker, have you ever used silver cable to IE8 and notice sound difference?

I'm trying to keep my ie8 for maybe another year before moving to CIEM. JH13 or UM Miracle your opinion? I want airy large soundstage, like IE8, but less bass and more balanced sound.

Also, Any thoughts for UM 3DD?

http://www.uniquemelodyshop.com/unique-melody-customs/unique-melody-3dd/

 

The IE8 I had was a loan from another Head-Fier. Never tried any aftermarket cables with it.

 

I think both the JH13 or Miracle would be good for a more balanced sound with good imaging. The JH13 has more mid-bass so it would be less of a shock coming from the IE8. Never tried the 3DD.

 

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belated congrats on the 300! keep up the great work! :D

 

Thank you :beerchug:!

 

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I was wondering what's the best sounding (balanced/ natural with slight bass and nice treble - no extreme bass boost) IEM that has very LOW on isolation that is below $125? Is it the semi-open Philips Fidelio S2 that's currently $100? Any of the "sport/exercise" headphones (Sennheiser/Adidas OCX 685i)? Something else? I'd like it with a mic, but it's not critical.

 

I work in a lab on graveyard shift and I need to still be aware of equipment alarms and my coworker calling for me, so I need to be alert. I could play my music over the computer speakers but I would like to keep my music with me for calls or when I go to the different rooms.

 

For reference, my favorite IEM is the GR07BE but its isolation is good. Recently I've rediscovered my Monoprice 9927 with a double flange tip and a microfiber cloth over the nozzle that I enjoy. The isolation is poor, which I'm looking for.

 

Thanks

 

I don't think the S2 is that low on isolation, unfortunately - it seems to isolate better than my Sony MDR-7550, for example. 

 

If I were you I'd grab a pair of these: http://www.amazon.com/Clear-Dual-Drive-Earbuds-iPhone-Devices/dp/B004F4W8G6 . They use the same housing as the Radius DDM2. Isolation is poor, they are cheap, and they have a mic, but they still sound quite good.

 

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Joker, 

 

I'm still unsure of what to get between the SM64 or W4, the W4 are cheaper though. I'm still not sure if they will fit me though since I like forward vocals. The iem's I have currently all have very forward vocals/mids (CK100, E-Q7, RE262). The reason why I returned the UE900 was because ithe vocals was too distant and hollow. Also which of the two have bigger soundstages and how does it compare to the E-Q7?


The SM64 has more bass than midrange. The W4 still has some mid-bass emphasis but on the whole I think it's more mid-forward than the SM64 and would suit your better. Both have good soundstage size, no complaints. The e-Q7 didn't sound as spacious to me.

 

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Which would you say are the best for classical music, still Etys? Thanks :)


If you like the Ety-neutral sonic balance then yes, Etys are great and still at the top of their game.

 

In general, even with the same genres people look for different things in their earphones so it really depends more on the type of sound you enjoy. 

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Thanks for the reply and recommendation joker. I think I will consider the jh13pro, but its a very steep investment for me now.
I will also eyeing for the um 3DD, interesting it got multi dynamic driver. I wonder how it compared to multi ba sound.
Plus its not too expensive (599usd custom fit), and custom iem site also offer universal fit for 499usd, 100 less than the custom one.
Edited by widdyjudas - 11/4/13 at 11:35pm
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The SM64 has more bass than midrange. The W4 still has some mid-bass emphasis but on the whole I think it's more mid-forward than the SM64 and would suit your better. Both have good soundstage size, no complaints. The e-Q7 didn't sound as spacious to me.

 

Thanks Joker. 

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Does anyone make a "better" ER4 in a universal? Better being say a 3-6dB boost at 20Hz tapering down to no boost in the mid range.
post #11990 of 14599

RE-272 , but you can only find a used one (if lucky).

 

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Does anyone make a "better" ER4 in a universal? Better being say a 3-6dB boost at 20Hz tapering down to no boost in the mid range.
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The 272 has more mid bass but not sub bass, and doesn't have the tapering effect he's looking for. It's also much brighter in treble to my ears, with an audiophile 'hi-fi' sparkle.
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I should have specified current production in my post.
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They are much flatter and more neutral than the EPH-100. Coming from the Yamahas you'll notice much lower bass quantity and better balance through the midrange and treble, as well as a slightly thinner note presentation. If you're looking for accuracy they definitely are an upgrade to the Yamahas. Bigger question is whether that type of sound will appeal to you as much as the EPH-100. To be honest I'm not aware of any shallow-fit earphones that sound like the EPH-100 in that price range. The Senn IE800 comes to mind but it's quite a bit more expensive. The JVC FX700, too, but it's a smaller step up and a thicker, more v-shaped-sound. 


Good thing then I'm willing to spend more. I was think off about 400 euros. Which would not get me close enough to the Sennheiser IE-800 but are there more IEM's in that price bracket that can get me this sound. Maybe a JVC FXZ-200. Thing is I really fell in love with the sound of the EPH-100 but that awful fit.


The much lower bass quantify of the MusicOne would be a turn off. I'm not a basshead (at least I think so) but I do like some impact. A more neutral sounding IEM is not a problem. But I do not like analytical, there should be a hint of warmthness and smoothness.

Please? Are there more IEM's with the EPH-100 sound signature under 400 euros/dollars. Does the Dunu DN-1000 come close maybe.
post #11994 of 14599
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Thanks for the reply and recommendation joker. I think I will consider the jh13pro, but its a very steep investment for me now.
I will also eyeing for the um 3DD, interesting it got multi dynamic driver. I wonder how it compared to multi ba sound.
Plus its not too expensive (599usd custom fit), and custom iem site also offer universal fit for 499usd, 100 less than the custom one.

 

Interesting... didn't know it was that "cheap". 

 

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Does anyone make a "better" ER4 in a universal? Better being say a 3-6dB boost at 20Hz tapering down to no boost in the mid range.


Not that I've heard. 

 

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Please? Are there more IEM's with the EPH-100 sound signature under 400 euros/dollars. Does the Dunu DN-1000 come close maybe.


Not that I know of. The DN-1000 is different. I loaned mine out temporarily after a brief listen so I won't have more info until I get it back. The only one I could think of with a shallow fit was the FX700 that I recommended, but it's not a great signature match. 

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Yes, its "cheap" at 499 for the 3dd universal... from initial review, it got bad separation and imaging... so, i think its not for me.
Time to safe money for jh13...
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Not that I know of. The DN-1000 is different. I loaned mine out temporarily after a brief listen so I won't have more info until I get it back. The only one I could think of with a shallow fit was the FX700 that I recommended, but it's not a great signature match. 

Well I generally don't have problems with fitting in IEM's. The only problem I've had to date is with the EPH-100 and I would place a bet on me having the same problem with the Miles Davis Trumpet but I haven't tried those. I'm looking for a slight V-shape. Neutral sounding leaning towards warm. I'm not a true bass-head but the IEM's should have an emphasis on bass.

 

Top contenders:
VSonic GR-07 BE
Heir Audio 3.Ai

Dunu DN-1000

JVC HA FX-700

 

Based on review I believe all of these fit my sound signature but if there are any more would you be so kind to inform me.

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For your taste/in your experience, which one would you say sounds best witch classical? 

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I posted on Introductions, Help and Recommendations but no one seems to visit the forum section that much.  Can someone recommend an upgrade for my tdk ba200? I primarily listen to classical orchestra, korean Indie and jazz.  The tdk ba200's major strong point is its mids.  Thus what I am looking for is an overall improving on everything.  My budget is $200~$300.  Thanks guys.

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Yes, its "cheap" at 499 for the 3dd universal... from initial review, it got bad separation and imaging... so, i think its not for me.
Time to safe money for jh13...

I do not know which review, but I totally disagree. Separation is excellent and imaging is good. Only default it that it is not very smooth sounding.

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Well I generally don't have problems with fitting in IEM's. The only problem I've had to date is with the EPH-100 and I would place a bet on me having the same problem with the Miles Davis Trumpet but I haven't tried those. I'm looking for a slight V-shape. Neutral sounding leaning towards warm. I'm not a true bass-head but the IEM's should have an emphasis on bass.

 

Top contenders:
VSonic GR-07 BE
Heir Audio 3.Ai

Dunu DN-1000

JVC HA FX-700

 

Based on review I believe all of these fit my sound signature but if there are any more would you be so kind to inform me.

 

I don't know if I would classify the VSonic or Dunu as shallow fit. They are just... average. If that's okay with you then they should work, but the VSonic has a lot less bass than the EPH-100. By the way, the Dunu comes with these little rings that you put on the nozzle to vary how far the eartip sits on the nozzle and thereby insertion depth.

 

The trumpet fits very similar to the EPH100 but it comes with "normal" tips and not multi-flanged ones like the Yamaha.

 

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For your taste/in your experience, which one would you say sounds best witch classical? 

 

The Noble 4C :o

 

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Originally Posted by calpiyuki View Post
 

I posted on Introductions, Help and Recommendations but no one seems to visit the forum section that much.  Can someone recommend an upgrade for my tdk ba200? I primarily listen to classical orchestra, korean Indie and jazz.  The tdk ba200's major strong point is its mids.  Thus what I am looking for is an overall improving on everything.  My budget is $200~$300.  Thanks guys.


Unfortunately I haven't heard the BA200. From what I've been told, it might be one of the best sets under $300, period, so I'm not sure where you would go in terms of upgrading. 

 

Not sure how much of an upgrade it is over the BA200 but you can get the W4 for about $350 these days.

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