Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
Nov 22, 2011 at 6:11 AM Post #4,876 of 16,931
Joker, In your review "Clash of the Titans: HJE900 vs. CK10 vs. Turbine Pro Gold" there is this affirmation:

"The CK10s have a slight disadvantage in being BA phones, which have always sounded slightly ‘artificial’ to me in terms of timbre, but still manage to hold their own."

Still think You in this manner?
 
Nov 22, 2011 at 12:30 PM Post #4,878 of 16,931


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Thanks Niyologist.  I'm going to give it a shot because the next step up for me is probably a completely new class of earphones that'll cost a lot more than the E6.


     No problem. I'm loving the Atrio X+E6 Combo right now. It made my Atrio X a tad bit more detailed and widened the Soundstage/Headstage slightly, making it somewhat more dynamic.
 
Nov 22, 2011 at 1:35 PM Post #4,879 of 16,931
 
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Thanks for the reply! I am really looking for an IEM that can satisfy me on acoustic music with a lot of female vocal. W3 just seems to produce really good sound for this preference but I want an upgrade. Do you think Miracle is good choice for these genre?
 

If you want something fuller, warmer, and smoother - sure. If you are used to the crisp, thin note presentation of the W3 you may want to find a more analytical custom.
 
 

 
I thought Westones 3 has more warm and smooth sound signature while Miracle sounds very analytical, cold, dry, and sounds similar to TF with V shape frequency.

 
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Last question, is vocal on Miracle laid back as much as triplefi is? Because TF vocal sounds too muffled to me. By the way, it really helped! Thx for taking time to answer my questions.
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This, i am really curious to know as well.
 
 
 
Nov 22, 2011 at 6:45 PM Post #4,881 of 16,931

 
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Last question, is vocal on Miracle laid back as much as triplefi is? Because TF vocal sounds too muffled to me. By the way, it really helped! Thx for taking time to answer my questions.
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The Miracle is more balanced overall than the TF10 and the midrange is not crowded out.
 


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Right now I'm looking at getting some ~50$ IEMs. Specifically I'm looking at the Etymotic S4 and the Meelectronic A151 (Both can be had for ~50$ on amazon atm)
 
A major concern for me is that a lot of people complain that the bass is lacking in both of them
If I'm looking for a balanced sound (other headphones I have used include grado sr60 and Shure srh440, and I found both to be great), will I find the bass in these two IEMs to be lacking?
 
 
Any other highly recommended IEMs around this price range?


I haven't heard the SRH440  but Grados have always had a bit of added punch to my ears. I think you would have to go a little bassier than A151/MC5 if you want that kind of impact, maybe for something with the balance of a Soundmagic E10 or a MEElec CW31 or Brainwavz Beta on the <$30 side.

 
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Joker, In your review "Clash of the Titans: HJE900 vs. CK10 vs. Turbine Pro Gold" there is this affirmation:

"The CK10s have a slight disadvantage in being BA phones, which have always sounded slightly ‘artificial’ to me in terms of timbre, but still manage to hold their own."

Still think You in this manner?


In a way, but I think the bar has been raised in both categories and the gap has decreased significantly since I wrote that review. The Miracle does not sound any less natural than the FX700 or EX1000 to me, though there is that difference in price.
 


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I thought Westones 3 has more warm and smooth sound signature while Miracle sounds very analytical, cold, dry, and sounds similar to TF with V shape frequency.


The Miracle is none of those things.
 


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Hi, for the UM Miracles, how well does it work with EQ Treble Booster?
The bass might be too much for some tracks.
 
Thanks

 
I am not familiar with the effect of iPod EQ settings on the Miracle and do not recommend using them with a high-end earphone. If you think you will need to use a permanent equalizer preset to get the sound you want, buy a different set of earphones. There's certainly more than enough variety out there.
 
 
 
Nov 22, 2011 at 8:03 PM Post #4,883 of 16,931


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Is it just me, or are we getting a new 'top of the heap' universal every month now ? I guess it just seems that way.


What was it last month?
 
Btw, the J-phonics were reviewed by shigzeo many, many months ago quite favorably.  Wonder what he's been up to....
 
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 1:50 AM Post #4,885 of 16,931
1. is equalizer not recommended on customs or any high end IEM?
 
2. how does Miracles perform in Punk/Pop Rock and Hip Pop music?
 
3. How much gap is between Sennheiser IE8, Sony EX1000, and Monster Turbine or any top universal IEM and UM Miracle?
 
Thanks
 
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 8:57 AM Post #4,886 of 16,931
Joker, about the Shure SE215, you affirmed:

"the upper midrange of the Shures reveals a bit of grain but nothing distracting or even unpleasant."
 
Do you believe the process of break-in can improve this?
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 9:25 AM Post #4,887 of 16,931
Any MEE CC51 owners around? How are these isolation-wise? I've finally pulled the trigger and ordered a pair, with fairly high hopes. I'm not expecting them to beat my currend portables (HD25s) but I guess I find it's nice to own a good set of ''invisible'' headphones - that is, compared to the Sennheisers :) Does anyone besides joker have any idea how they measure up?
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 10:41 AM Post #4,888 of 16,931
How does the M9's bass compare to the Brainwavz M2's?
Is it as punchy as the M9?
 
I saw a review on amazon that states there wasn't enough bass..
Which really worries me..
 
Wondering if I should really upgrade or not..
 
Also, have you heard about the Soul by Ludacris' SL series?
I was sort of expecting it to be just like Beats, but with the very few reviews there are, it's supposed to be somewhat decent...
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 2:09 PM Post #4,889 of 16,931


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Any MEE CC51 owners around? How are these isolation-wise? I've finally pulled the trigger and ordered a pair, with fairly high hopes. I'm not expecting them to beat my currend portables (HD25s) but I guess I find it's nice to own a good set of ''invisible'' headphones - that is, compared to the Sennheisers :) Does anyone besides joker have any idea how they measure up?


     I'm a CC51 owner and it isolates nicely, but not as much as the Atrio X. The CC51 slashes the external noise by around 20 db. The Atrio X slashes it around 26 db.
 
Nov 23, 2011 at 8:26 PM Post #4,890 of 16,931
Hi Joker, as you may recall, I'm looking for an upgrade from the RE0s with more isolation then it's good. I prefer a more analytical sound signature but as long as clarity exists then I won't have much to complain about if there is isolation along with it.
 
Now I've bought some Shure SE215s just to try what the over ear types are like as well as some Phonak PFE 112s. Whilst the Shure SE215 easily wins in isolation, I do not like the sound signature of it and much prefer the RE0. I do also have the FX1X and quite like the bass too when I want some fun. The Phonak PFE 112s seem pretty good from initial listening but the isolation is horrible, even compared with my RE0 (note I am using shallow triple flanges which seem to isolate the best for straight barelled IEMs for me) and hence I'm stuck with my RE0 for now. I was going to try some Etymotic IEMs but I've decided that they're probably not for me and that the RE0 will probably be "good enough" and not warrant an upgrade to the Etymotic IEMs. 
 
Now after reading about the VSonic GR07s, I'm quite tempted to go for them as they seem to have enough clarity but with more bass (which is never a bad thing as long as it's not overpowering or muddy). In addition to this, I may be able to get them for £85 (brand new) in the UK which, to me, would give it a VFM rating of 5/5 (I bought my RE0s for £40 second hand so it's also 5/5 VFM).
 
However, I'm also interested in customs and I feel that on the other hand, the fit and isolation of customs will be perfect, and we all know that SQ depends on a good seal. The ones that I'm planning to buy is the Minerva Mi-1 (I considered the Kozee Infinity X1 Executives but as I'm from the UK I wanted to deal with a UK firm instead) but I'm worried that I'll lost a lot of detail. From initial listening from the Phonak PFE112s though, it seems that a single BA is quite adequate for me though, but I'm not sure what is used in the Minerva Mi-1 and whether or not it'll provide enough clarity.
 
Tl;dr:
1) How would you compare the VSonic GR07s to the RE0 (I'm aware the RE0 is brighter and more analytical and the GR07 is more balanced, what else would you add/correct to my knowledge?).
2) Will customs generally provide enough clarity with a single BA driver and will the custom fit seal provide a bit more bass? (I love the RE0 but need a better fit/isolation and a tiny bit more bass).
 

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