akacoke said:

awsome reviews. its a masterpiece.

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headphoneaddict said:

Anyway, thanks VERY much for the CK-10 loan and I should be able to mail them back the day after tomorrow, since I'm under the weather after dental work this afternoon.  Is the shipping address the same as when I sent you the W3 before?

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Multi-IEM Review - 131 IEMs compared (Xears XB120PRO & MEElec R1 rev2 added 01/08)

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tuahogary said:

I knew it Joker! You are a time traveller!

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esanthosh said:

Good review (as usual) on the XB120. Even though they are not my most favorite Xears, you can't go wrong with these at the price point. Wish you can review the TD100-II as well, but they are sold out already.
 
Is it possible to review TF10 once your pending reviews are over? I am eagerly (and patiently) waiting for it.

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rawrster said:

Nice review on the Xears Bullet. I liked them except for their stupid J cord and driver flex.

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ljokerl said:

 
 

 
The TF10 review is waiting for me to finish up with stuff that's on a timer - currently the NE-700X from Nuforce and a few cans for the Portable thread. After that, assuming nothing new comes up, I'll get right on it 

. I just got the UE500 yesterday but - surprise, surprise - UE still can't do mid-range dynamics as well as Brainwavz/Fischer/ECCI/etc. 
 
 

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The TF10 review is waiting for me to finish up with stuff that's on a timer - currently the NE-700X from Nuforce and a few cans for the Portable thread. After that, assuming nothing new comes up, I'll get right on it 

. I just got the UE500 yesterday but - surprise, surprise - UE still can't do mid-range dynamics as well as Brainwavz/Fischer/ECCI/etc. 
 

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ljokerl said:

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tuahogary said:

I knew it Joker! You are a time traveller!

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Month/day

. Except for early January it doesn't make sense for me to put a year since I do these updates every 1-2 weeks

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Originally Posted by kjk1281 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
I think tuahogary was trying to point out that yesterday was 01/05, not 01/08.

 
Anyway, I do look forward to your review of the TF10 as it will ultimately determine my IEM upgrade/side-grade path.  Probably the end of the road for me as I'm actually pretty content with what I have; the Sennheiser IEs are just too expensive and customs never interested me.  I'll continue to waste countless dollars on populating my cheapie collection (CX21 please!) and I may start building a full-size rig.

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ljokerl said:

 
How 'bout venturing into the ~$80 range? $60-100 holds some of my favorite earphones and none of them are by Sennheiser 

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CK-10 IMPRESSIONS:
 
Well, I have been listening to |joker|'s CK-10 for a couple of days, and while they are very enjoyable I hate to say that I don't like them as much as he does.  
 
I do like the feel of the tangle-free cable, and they feel solidly built.  Because of their shape, I can only get a good seal with them wearing them with the cable over my ears.  And wearing them that way means practically no cable microphonics.  The CK-10 are engaging sounding and they don't need to be amped to enjoy them, but pairing them with my Pico Slim is still an upgrade over listening un-amped.
 
However, when I turn up the CK-10 playback levels to volume match the bass and mids to my UM3X, the CK-10 treble becomes too forward/boosted for my tastes.  Fortunately it's in the 8K-10K or higher range, so there is little sibilance boosting in most music but it's an issue with some tracks.  It's not so much of a "hot" sounding treble, but rather just a forward sounding treble.  The CK-10 may have a similar frequency response to my RE-252 or my old Phonak PFE, but the CK-10 are a bit smoother and more organic/liquid sounding than the RS-252 (and maybe a little warmer too).  I need to do more comparisons than the brief ones I've done, but both of these IEM are more engaging than the new RS-262, which are less aggressive sounding than the RE-252, but which when unamped can sound a little bland vs the RE-252 or CK-10.  The CK-10 bass is good without boost or weakness, but it's not as strong as my UM3X.   The CK-10 have good detail and speed, but I feel that my UM3X still sound more transparent and disappear better.  So, I do like the CK-10, but I don't see them filling a gap in my collection.  
 
In my case I would pick the UM3X over the CK-10, which themselves are surpassed by the new W4 that I'm reviewing. 

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I'm not surprised.The treble you are experiencing is what makes many people hate the CK10 and I think the CK10 fits a specific group that is not very popular here so more people would hate them than like them. I consider them my favorite set of universals and if I was ever to purchase a universal twice the CK10 would be it.

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rawrster said:

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headphoneaddict said:

CK-10 IMPRESSIONS:
 
Well, I have been listening to |joker|'s CK-10 for a couple of days, and while they are very enjoyable I hate to say that I don't like them as much as he does.  
 
I do like the feel of the tangle-free cable, and they feel solidly built.  Because of their shape, I can only get a good seal with them wearing them with the cable over my ears.  And wearing them that way means practically no cable microphonics.  The CK-10 are engaging sounding and they don't need to be amped to enjoy them, but pairing them with my Pico Slim is still an upgrade over listening un-amped.
 
However, when I turn up the CK-10 playback levels to volume match the bass and mids to my UM3X, the CK-10 treble becomes too forward/boosted for my tastes.  Fortunately it's in the 8K-10K or higher range, so there is little sibilance boosting in most music but it's an issue with some tracks.  It's not so much of a "hot" sounding treble, but rather just a forward sounding treble.  The CK-10 may have a similar frequency response to my RE-252 or my old Phonak PFE, but the CK-10 are a bit smoother and more organic/liquid sounding than the RS-252 (and maybe a little warmer too).  I need to do more comparisons than the brief ones I've done, but both of these IEM are more engaging than the new RS-262, which are less aggressive sounding than the RE-252, but which when unamped can sound a little bland vs the RE-252 or CK-10.  The CK-10 bass is good without boost or weakness, but it's not as strong as my UM3X.   The CK-10 have good detail and speed, but I feel that my UM3X still sound more transparent and disappear better.  So, I do like the CK-10, but I don't see them filling a gap in my collection.  
 
In my case I would pick the UM3X over the CK-10, which themselves are surpassed by the new W4 that I'm reviewing. 

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I'm not surprised.The treble you are experiencing is what makes many people hate the CK10 and I think the CK10 fits a specific group that is not very popular here so more people would hate them than like them. I consider them my favorite set of universals and if I was ever to purchase a universal twice the CK10 would be it.

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Second your thoughts regarding the CK10's here. They don't appeal to everyone or even many people but for some, this guy included, they are without question my favorite universal. Even after getting my JH5's which I do find all around superior, I just can't bring myself to sell the CK10's. I really could be happy with those forever and as a result just can't let them go. They are just such "perfect" sounding device to these ears and tastes. 
 
I agree with your take on the bass as well Headphone Addict, when I compared the CK10's and UM3X's I found the same thing.
 
Can't wait to hear your take on the W4's by the way. I was a bit let down by the W3's but the UM3X's really did redeem Westone in my eyes. Those iem's were just a tiny bit behind the CK10's in my eyes which is a huge accomplishment.

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